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#1 Jesse

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:30 AM

Post observations, nowcasts for the next 24-48 hours here!

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:33 AM

39 degrees and fog.

What a ride!

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:34 AM

39 and overcast here, with ESE winds starting to pick up a bit.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:36 AM

39 and overcast here, with ESE winds starting to pick up a bit.


Rain and 40 degrees in Puyallup. Light winds.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:36 AM

41.7F with moderate rain.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:36 AM

40 degress, moderate rain, light winds from the SE

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:36 AM

40 with a dark overcast

I am giddy like a school girl right now.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:37 AM

I haven't really cared thus far, but my take on the surface low is that the 12z is handling it just fine with regards to its track.

Compare and see!

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:38 AM

Nice detailed visible satellite now that it's daylight: http://www.hamweathe...s...es=1&smap=1

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:38 AM

<P><BR><BR><BR>The difference for Seattle is huge.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; That is all I am saying.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR>There was major snow shown for this evening on the 00Z run.&nbsp;&nbsp;And would still be if that low would go through Olympia.&nbsp;&nbsp; </P>
<P>I will probably still get dumped on... maybe more than before with more onshore&nbsp;flow precip.&nbsp;&nbsp; I just wanted major snow for everyone in Seattle.&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></P>

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:38 AM

I haven't really cared thus far, but my take on the surface low is that the 12z is handling it just fine with regards to its track.

Compare and see!


So in your eyes where does the low end up going? North or South of Seattle? It looks like it's opening up quite a bit.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:38 AM

<P>

The difference for Seattle is huge. That is all I am saying.

There was major snow shown for this evening on the 00Z run. And would still be if that low would go through Olympia.

I will probably still get dumped... maybe more with onshore flow precip. I just wanted major snow for everyone in Seattle.



No, the difference for Seattle isn't huge. In fact, it's almost nonexistent. The main difference is that the 0C 925mb line isn't over Seattle as much before the low passes. It's still there afterwards.

This event has been borderline for Seattle all along, and is still just that. The low placement over Olympia or over Bellingham would still bring rain to Seattle at first, and then maybe snow in the PSCZ on the backside. Really, no difference in terms of snow at all.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:39 AM

I haven't really cared thus far, but my take on the surface low is that the 12z is handling it just fine with regards to its track.

Compare and see!


Yeah, I'm thinking I misjudged the center position. Still looks to be headed straight towards Everett to me, but I've been wrong many times before. B)

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:40 AM

30 degrees with flurries. I still have a dusting of snow on the ground. Looks like the heavier snow will arrive around noon or so.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:40 AM

"This event has been borderline for Seattle all along"

Mallows Friday mantra :-)

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:41 AM

Exactly... the result is not important for your location.

If we took the low on Sunday and shoved it westward... it would not matter to me but you guys would be pissed.

I don't really care about Sunday... but down there its HUGE.

Today is HUGE up here.


No. It's not. <_<

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:41 AM

"This event has been borderline for Seattle all along"

Mallows Friday mantra :-)


No matter how many times I say it, it's like Tim just doesn't get it. B)

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:42 AM

So in your eyes where does the low end up going? North or South of Seattle? It looks like it's opening up quite a bit.

It's going to track across the sound. Seattle is big.

Bottom line is, if you're thinking a 100 mile difference in the track is going to matter, than you're wasting your energy. Mallow is right, this thing never looked to have teeth to be a major snowfall for anyone at any point over the last several days. Certain folks could have gotten or may get lucky, but given the airmass in which it encountered, thinking a major snow event for Seattle was going to occur with a simple shift in the track was unsubstantiated.

You're getting sucked into Tim's OCD, which unsually manifests itself negatively.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:43 AM

<P>!!!


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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:44 AM

Exactly... the result is not important for your location.

If we took the low on Sunday and shoved it westward... it would not matter to me but you guys would be pissed.

I don't really care about Sunday... but down there its HUGE.

Today is HUGE up here.

Mmmmm... No.

You've convinced yourself of that, but you're absolutely wrong. Take it from someone that has absolutely no interest in the outcome. This event was not, at any time, looking like the Puget Sound was going to get hammered.




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