MossMan Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 33 degrees currently after a low of 20. Lovely out! My lower field is drying out nicely! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 44 at SEA... toasty. So much for the inversion getting progressively colder with each day.37 at pdx. Doing fine down here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 44 at SEA... toasty. So much for the inversion getting progressively colder with each day.Perhaps they will hit 50!!! So glad I I live in a land of 33 degrees! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 44 at SEA... toasty. So much for the inversion getting progressively colder with each day.Definitely much deeper easterly flow than the models showed a few days ago. I think they were all thrown off a little by that goofy little vortmax. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 YES! There has to be some sort of identifiable relation between the solar cycles and the weather (here in the PNW...). Not in a general sense, I mean in a more exact pin-pointable sense. Do you have any references that talk about how long it takes us to see the residual effects of a solar minimum?I had recently been looking at the correlation between snowfall during La Nina winters and the solar cycle. Sorry, but I only looked at sites in SW BC. Snowfall amounts nearly double in relation to average when a La Nina winter coincides with a period of decreasing or low solar activity. Not sure if anyone really knows about what may occur as we likely enter a period similar to the Dalton Minimum. Location Average Snowfall Average during years of Average during years of Decreasing or Low Solar Increasing or High SolarShawniganLake 29.5" 52.3" (177%) 31.1" (105%) Abbotsford (YXX) 21.7" 46.5" (214%) 22.7" (105%)Vancouver (YVR) 15" 31.9" (213%) 17.7" (118%) Here are the individual La Nina years I used that occurred during low solar. *EDIT. 1985 (remarkable November), and 1996 (December Blizzard) just missed making the cut for a La Nina, but were cold ENSO years, I would guess the argument could be made to include them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 44 at SEA... toasty. So much for the inversion getting progressively colder with each day. Spokane NWS expects moderation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Much warmer today... 37 here with a dewpoint of 18. No melting at all... there is no water anywhere. I think the snow is start to sublimate a little. It almost has to with a brisk wind and very dry air. Still very little change in the snow cover, but it is much nicer to lose snow on a brilliantly sunny day as opposed to a rainy, gloomy day. 37F here this afternoon as well. I can hear the last of the snow melting off the roof in the sunshine. Snow on the ground is mostly holding its own. (still about 1") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 That is so boring and depressing. Lets pretend for another few weeks! We're not even 1 full day into 2016 and you're up to your usual routine of jumping on everything Jim posts. He can't even use the words "possible, potentially" or anything. He can't even look at any possibilities without you going after him with your usual sarcastic, condescending drivel, and then you congratulate yourself in doing so. It's so fu**ing stupid how obsessed you are with Jim, or rather your quest to tear him down. It annoys the living piss out of everyone here to have to read this usually on a daily basis, often multiple times. You absolutely get off on doing so. Just stop already. Go outside and enjoy your crusty snow that 97% of us don't have. I see exactly what Jim is talking about, especially on the ECMWF. Some subtle hints that the very strong block/positive anomaly could retrograde back to Alaska and as well the southwestward digging trough is very evident from Nunavut to the Canadian prairies. It's not a trend yet. We're not even into "baby steps" territory yet. It's just something to keep an eye on. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Much warmer today... 37 here with a dewpoint of 18. No melting at all... there is no water anywhere. I think the snow is start to sublimate a little. It almost has to with a brisk wind and very dry air. Still very little change in the snow cover, but it is much nicer to lose snow on a brilliantly sunny day as opposed to a rainy, gloomy day.Only made it to 30.5 so far, may have been my high, lots of wind too! That cold pool is doing the trick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Whatever. I will wait for Dewey to start talking potential to get excited. He thought the December hype was unwarranted and was right again.Selective memory...forget about his "baby"? Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Only made it to 30.5 so far, may have been my high, lots of wind too! That cold pool is doing the trickYep it is. I haven't even made it to 33 today out here near west Gresham. 35-45mph east winds feels bitter outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Selective memory...forget about his "baby"?His 'baby' brought the best snow event of the series for my location... hours of powdery snow. Had the potential for everyone... he was right. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Just stop Rob. I never say anything about your analysis. And I see where Jim is coming from now... he is just happy to avoid warm and wet. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Only made it to 30.5 so far, may have been my high, lots of wind too! That cold pool is doing the trickVery nice. Wind and cold. Wind is making it much warmer here today. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crf450ish Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 I had recently been looking at the correlation between snowfall during La Nina winters and the solar cycle. Sorry, but I only looked at sites in SW BC. Snowfall amounts nearly double in relation to average when a La Nina winter coincides with a period of decreasing or low solar activity. Not sure if anyone really knows about what may occur as we likely enter a period similar to the Dalton Minimum. Location Average Snowfall Average during years of Average during years of Decreasing or Low Solar Increasing or High SolarShawniganLake 29.5" 52.3" (177%) 31.1" (105%) Abbotsford (YXX) 21.7" 46.5" (214%) 22.7" (105%)Vancouver (YVR) 15" 31.9" (213%) 17.7" (118%) Here are the individual La Nina years I used that occurred during low solar. *EDIT. 1985 (remarkable November), and 1996 (December Blizzard) just missed making the cut for a La Nina, but were cold ENSO years, I would guess the argument could be made to include them. solarcycle-lanina.jpgVery nice post! Thank you. I would love to witness what so many have talked about what happened during the winters in the 70's. Back when the greater puget sound used to see the kind of weather I am experiencing over here right now. Sub freezing highs....sub zero lows, lots of snow that sticks around etc.... frozen lakes and ponds. My grandpa told me when he was in his late 30's he remembers walking out onto Alder Lake and Riffe Lake. Now that would be epic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 I've always loved when the ponds start freezing over. Nute's Pond on Bainbridge: Even the beach is completely frozen up in the shade. Looks like it snowed! 3 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Only made it to 30.5 so far, may have been my high, lots of wind too! That cold pool is doing the trick Only topped out at 32º here and now already back down to 30º and dropping with a raging east wind all day. Dew point is now down to 14º! Cold pool has definitely taken over. Going to to a lot more than those weak systems Sunday and early next week to get this cold air scurried out at this point. Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 lol, Okay, Tim. I was just saying what everyone else is thinking or wants to say themselves. 18z GFS more suggestive that any precip Sunday-Sunday night could be Snow/Sleet/ZR perhaps southern-central Willamette Valley and far less in PDX due to much drier air. Not a lot of moisture though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 00z GFS in 3 hours 46 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Looks like 850 temps stay right around or below freezing so would likely be some very light snow falling. Didn't I mention this possibly occurring several days ago... Pretty unlikely, there's a warming layer aloft with the precip and 925mb temps will definitely be above freezing. Sleet is maybe a "most exciting" case scenario here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Wish I had a better camera to capture it, but I flew into Seattle yesterday and the view was just incredible. Greenlake, UW, both floating bridges, Woodland Park Zoo, Downtown Seattle, and the ferry on Puget Sound with Bainbridge Island and the snowcapped Olympics in the background. All without a cloud in the sky! 5 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Pretty awesome scenery today making the short 10min drive to the lake house. Lots of frost which makes it look like there has been snowfall. Roads are quite slick however! Already down to 31 degrees after a high of 35. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 High temp of 32.9 here, down to 31.0 with 35-45mph east wind. Until the cold pool is mixed out east side not much is going to change and with one system after another approaching from the southwest I can't see the Gorge outflow ending for many days along with possible frozen precip east of the Coast Range becoming more confined to areas east of I-205/Gorge into next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Low of 19 high of 43 here today... Pretty day... BUT... I'm bored. *yawn* Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 His 'baby' brought the best snow event of the series for my location... hours of powdery snow. Had the potential for everyone... he was right.Ok...I'm sure he was anticipating what it would bring you. And you were just talking about how December was a complete fail for the lowlands...no consistency. 2 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crf450ish Posted January 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Wish I had a better camera to capture it, but I flew into Seattle yesterday and the view was just incredible. Greenlake, UW, both floating bridges, Woodland Park Zoo, Downtown Seattle, and the ferry on Puget Sound with Bainbridge Island and the snowcapped Olympics in the background. All without a cloud in the sky! 580372_10207967874171889_4331394542047382227_n.jpgWOW! I flew to Alaska and back from Sea-tac & Spokane multiple times this summer and not once did I see as clear of skies as this. And that was in JUNE/JULY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crf450ish Posted January 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Its already 16 here! At this rate I should see single digits tonight. I am waiting for temps 5 degrees or lower so I can make a cold start video of my cummins diesel pickup . See how she performs in these temps after living the last 13 years in western wa.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 It never got above 21 at my place today. Now already down to 11 and I have started the sprinkler on the front yard tree. Icicles are already about a foot long and growing fast. Yes, I'm a dork. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Happy New Year to everybody! I have been super busy and haven't had a chance to post much. I just saw this on twitter and the new run of the 12z ECMWF EPS Ensemble Control today shows lots of potential as we head into mid January. Wx Expert @Expert_Wx "Look at the ECMWF EPS Mean and Control 850T Anomalies. Would result in a big polar air mass for mid-January. #AO " http://i.imgur.com/Y72QijJ.jpg https://twitter.com/Expert_Wx/status/683024821278486528Jim Was talking about how things were looking more favorable Coming up, that does indeed look quite promising!! Perhaps my prediction of snow by the 18th might come to be! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 It never got above 21 at my place today. Now already down to 11 and I have started the sprinkler on the front yard tree. Icicles are already about a foot long and growing fast. Yes, I'm a dork.Oh you are now required to take pictures!!! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 It's nothing in Omak. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 It's nothing in Omak. Yikes. I hope this nothingness doesn't spread through the gorge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Yikes. I hope this nothingness doesn't spread through the gorge.I can see Rob at some point having to ride Falcor up to Cascade Locks to do battle and stop it in its tracks. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 I can see Rob at some point having to ride Falcor up to Cascade Locks to do battle and stop it in its tracks. Lol. That movie is exactly what I had in mind. What a hardcore life style us weather nerds live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Pdx is already down to freezing with a dew point of 18. Not bad at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 It never got above 21 at my place today. Now already down to 11 and I have started the sprinkler on the front yard tree. Icicles are already about a foot long and growing fast. Yes, I'm a dork.I did that in December 2009 with the pear tree at my parents house. Left the hose pointed up on mist for 1 night and the tree looked incredible. There was tons of ice on the grass surrounding it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 I can see Rob at some point having to ride Falcor up to Cascade Locks to do battle and stop it in its tracks.Yes, likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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