Geos Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 GGEM further east. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Euro looks meh through 72 http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/models/ecmwf/20160106/00Z/f072/sfcmslpconus.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 96 http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/models/ecmwf/20160106/00Z/f096/sfcmslpconus.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 EURO nothing like a GFS solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 EURO nothing like a GFS solution. Getting closer. 12z euro was way out east and nearly OTS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 The plates and dishes are on the table for a major event--- exactly where they are placed and who sits where is yet to be determined. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 The plates and dishes are on the table for a major event--- exactly where they are placed and who sits where is yet to be determined. Euro show any snow at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 0z GEFS: http://i.imgur.com/LSXqbcO.png 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Euro show any snow at all?No WX bell sub right now. AccuWX for me doesn't update 00Z until 1am. Will post if it has any snow for any of us-- unless someone beats me to it. Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 From the surface MSLP from the Euro every 24hrs,, and if correct-- would be a dream to be in the Central Great Lakes-- Lake Effect along with a strong synoptic system Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ENSPRSNE_0z/f96.gif http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ENSPRSNE_0z/f102.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 00z Euro def trending NW and has a 992mb SLP in N OH at HR 108...doesn't wrap around any snow on the cold side of the storm though. Still plenty of time as this thing is showing signs of what could be a major storm as the jet buckles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 06z GFS showing this storm going neg tilt a little earlier. This storm has soo much potential to become a Great Lakes bomb. I'm not going to be by the comp for the majority of the day so if you guys can keep the color maps coming that would be much appreciated! Looks like this storm comes straight out of the Gulf and heads due NNE...some of the wildest storms have formed this way. Going to be fun tracking this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 00z EPS playing catch up...huge shift NW now...right in line with the GEFS...King Euro didn't sniff this storm track out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I think Gary Lezak has been waiting for this one....prob part of the reason why he hasn't said much about the storm system just yet. A lot of pieces are scattered around and the models are having difficulty but should be starting to get a better read soon. With the amount of blocking already in place, I'd imagine an earlier phase in future runs... The plates and dishes are on the table for a major event--- exactly where they are placed and who sits where is yet to be determined. 00z Euro def trending NW and has a 992mb SLP in N OH at HR 108...doesn't wrap around any snow on the cold side of the storm though. Still plenty of time as this thing is showing signs of what could be a major storm as the jet buckles Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Nam looks interesting 996.4 in eastern il Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Nam looks interesting 996.4 in eastern ilLooks like there is going to be a nice surface wave. Issue seems to be the timing of cold air to go with it. I think you might be in a good spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 GFS.... So close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Congrats everyone up there. You guys are going to have some fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Congrats everyone up there. You guys are going to have some fun.Maybe still a tiny sliver of snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 What does it show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Well that was a nice trend while it lasted. On to the EURO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Nam looks interesting 996.4 in eastern ilHas some juice to it for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 What does it show?http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016010612/gfs_asnow_us_25.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Thanks...I'm not discounting anything until this storm starts developing. Way to much jet stream energy and GOM moisture in play. This is a dynamic situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Thanks...I'm not discounting anything until this storm starts developing. Way to much jet stream energy and GOM moisture in play. This is a dynamic situation.GGEM has a nice storm further east but the cold air is late to the party there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 12z UK revving it up pretty good, albeit way too far east for Iowa to get anything. http://img.meteocentre.com/models/ukmet_amer_12/GZ_D5_PN_096_0000.gif 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 GFS is my only hope. Hardly any moisture being thrown this way on any of the models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 The QPF seems really compact, needs to spread west or most of us will miss out. Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Couple looks at 12z Euro - dynamic system - can't say "zzzzz-fest" Which model will be 1st to sniff cold air coming into play?? 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 The GFS shows in snowing here, albeit less, so where is it on this map!? I got a strong feeling I'll have the snow and sleet pack on the ground come late Saturday. Can probably handle 0.5" of rain. I would imagine areas further north and west will hang on to their snow/ice cover, and gain some before the final wave comes up. Should help with cold air advection. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 EURO is definitely got something good cooking. Goes from this... to this. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 12z UK revving it up pretty good, albeit way too far east for Iowa to get anything. http://img.meteocentre.com/models/ukmet_amer_12/GZ_D5_PN_096_0000.gifIf (and that is a big if) this were to happen that would be a good location for my area. as always time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Couple looks at 12z Euro - dynamic system - can't say "zzzzz-fest" Which model will be 1st to sniff cold air coming into play?? 20160106 12z Euro 96hr Map.gif 20160106 12z Euro 96hr Map-2.gif What's the dark purple line and the dashed light purple line? I know one is the freezing line, but which. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Glad to see the Euro trending this storm towards the Lower Lakes! Great maps Jaster and Geo's! What does the snowfall map look like? Also, seems like the Euro is phasing this beast much earlier than prior runs. Classic bomb setup. Bizzard not out of the realm of possibility? 30-Day cycle theory in play here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 NAO dips pretty good this weekend. The 12z NAM looked really good at the end of its run. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Storm is weak sauce down here. Doesn't bomb out until it gets near the lakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 We are still 3-4 days out and the energy hasn't been even close to getting sampled. I'd also watch for earlier phasing as we get closer. 2 days ago I saw the trends in the Euro and posted maps showing the trends in both jet streams. With all the blocking available, I'd imagine an earlier phase and shifts in the track. If this thing can go neg tilt down in Texarkana or nearby...someone will get buried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 What's the dark purple line and the dashed light purple line? I know one is the freezing line, but which. Not 100% sure, but looks like pink dashed would be 32*F at 850mb, and solid purple 32*F at 2m? Prolly gonna dynamically cool with hvy wet snow bringing surf temps down quickly.. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowawx Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Hope this one comes north. Would like to get snow from this in eastern Iowa. It does seem like there is a NW trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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