jaster220 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Very curious to see how this storm will pan out. NOT me - another dud in the making - bank it Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 If the 0z runs don't have any improvement in the situation, I will be in support of a weakening trend with this thing. No point in having rain, then a little bit of wet snow, imo. I'd take one of the drier EURO runs at this point.Beginning to wonder if any different solution other than last Saturday's is possible. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 If the 0z runs don't have any improvement in the situation, I will be in support of a weakening trend with this thing. No point in having rain, then a little bit of wet snow, imo. I'd take one of the drier EURO runs at this point.Beginning to wonder if any different solution other than last Saturday's is possible.I would at l east wait till 12z or 0z tomorrow as there should be better sampling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Snowball Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Delete thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 ^ lol what a snoozer of a storm. Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maxim Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 lol @ anyone who thought this storm had potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Very curious to see how this storm will pan out.enjoy your cold rain followed by maybe half an inch of wrap-around snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 lol @ anyone who thought this storm had potentialEnough trolling-If you would have seen the EURO on Sunday, you would have gotten excited too. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Enough trolling-If you would have seen the EURO on Sunday, you would have gotten excited too.I mean, really though, it's hard to take the Euro seriously. Especially at that range, and given how it has performed this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I mean, really though, it's hard to take the Euro seriously. Especially at that range, and given how it has performed this season. Still, though. The solution made sense at the time. The GGEM was trying to get a significant system together as well. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 The storm threat was within 5 days and there was model/ensemble support at the time....and continued for a couple days until just recently. Everybody that posted would have done the same in the January thread anyway. Given the nature of the pattern and utilizing the different theories to lay out a forecast, it justified a storm thread. If your upset at the way this storm has trended based on model date, you can take it up to Mother Nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 lol @ anyone who thought this storm had potentialDude, if your mid-month torch had been showing up Day 10 I'm sure you would be hootin' and hollarin'. Better yet, if there was a snow potential you'd be making ORD = DAB calls. I know your an active poster and you didn't even post on the last Clipper. That tells me you don't even care about tracking snow systems...so why even make a derogatory comment like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 You guys can always post in a forum that does not have this thread. Oh wait...look they all have one as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Gfs and euro look to be in agreement now of a mostly dry system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Looks like a little rain for Chicago, nothing in Iowa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Looks like a little rain for Chicago, nothing in Iowanot really that mad though, curious on how things play out afterwards, pattern looks very active Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Dude, if your mid-month torch had been showing up Day 10 I'm sure you would be hootin' and hollarin'. Better yet, if there was a snow potential you'd be making ORD = DAB calls. I know your an active poster and you didn't even post on the last Clipper. That tells me you don't even care about tracking snow systems...so why even make a derogatory comment like that?the weekend snow event was pretty much a DAB. Sure, we got 1.5" from it (many areas got less), but that's hardly appreciable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Also, I was being sarcastic when I made that mid-month torch call, but there's no doubt Thurs and Fri will be above normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Why would I have bothered posting on the last clipper? I don't care for nuisance 3 inch snow events. Go big or go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Also, I was being sarcastic when I made that mid-month torch call, but there's no doubt Thurs and Fri will be above normal Sure, sure, sure...typical "hindsight 20-20" comment...but I wouldn't even give you credit because it doesn't justify as a torch...lol...carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Looking like a weak wave along the front. Really need a sharp baroclinic zone to get storms wound up. If this system was coming out of the SW a day later with the Arctic air coming back it would be a much different storm. Just bad timing.That Clipper last night was the most exciting thing this month. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 The WAA is weak with this low. Just looking at sounding, the boundary layer that is above freezing is very shallow. It's almost to the point where snow could almost fall underneath the low. Sounding for ORD at 66 hours. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLIZZARD09 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Geos, on 12 Jan 2016 - 10:14 PM, said:Looking like a weak wave along the front. Really need a sharp baroclinic zone to get storms wound up. If this system was coming out of the SW a day later with the Arctic air coming back it would be a much different storm. Just bad timing.That Clipper last night was the most exciting thing this month. kinda sad, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Lol, the trolls show up when the models start showing the storm potential dying. Where were they when the snow was dumping on them after their 'torch' prediction?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 kinda sad, no? Yeah sorta. Problem is that darn sub tropical jet isn't allowing the system to dig. The potential is there if it wasn't for that. Bigger storms in el Niño winters usually come early or late. EURO was north btw. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Dude, if your mid-month torch had been showing up Day 10 I'm sure you would be hootin' and hollarin'. Better yet, if there was a snow potential you'd be making ORD = DAB calls. I know your an active poster and you didn't even post on the last Clipper. That tells me you don't even care about tracking snow systems...so why even make a derogatory comment like that?Maxim is an active poster only because 1/2 of his posts are "lol". What's even more sad is that the thread that was created for these trolls just has Maxim talking to himself and wondering why more people aren't posting in that thread. Seriously, go check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Maxim is an active poster only because 1/2 of his posts are "lol". What's even more sad is that the thread that was created for these trolls just has Maxim talking to himself and wondering why more people aren't posting in that thread. Seriously, go check it out.lol other weather forums have banter/complaint threads too, it's not made for "trolls". I just found it strange how nobody was posting on it given how this winter has played out so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerf Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Maxim is an active poster only because 1/2 of his posts are "lol". What's even more sad is that the thread that was created for these trolls just has Maxim talking to himself and wondering why more people aren't posting in that thread. Seriously, go check it out.Shhh, you're giving away our secret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 18z GFS was dry for most everyone now unless you're east of I-57 or above 44° N. If Gosaints is lucky he might get some snow along with Snowshoe. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Can we just fastforward to April already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Can we just fastforward to April already?Nope, because I'm almost already at my seasonal avg snowfall and we have several days coming up with below 0 weather and bitter cold wind chills. Things of which you said would not happen this winter. I'm enjoying it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Nope, because I'm almost already at my seasonal avg snowfall and we have several days coming up with below 0 weather and bitter cold wind chills. Things of which you said would not happen this winter. I'm enjoying it.How much snow do you have OTG??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Picked up another 2" tonight from a fast disturbance. My snowfall just keeps adding up. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Nope, because I'm almost already at my seasonal avg snowfall and we have several days coming up with below 0 weather and bitter cold wind chills. Things of which you said would not happen this winter. I'm enjoying it.lol, when did I say it wouldn't happen? Pretty much every winter has featured subzero temps except for 2011-2012 maybe. Also, any normal human being wouldn't enjoy several days of "below 0 weather and bitter cold wind chills". Also another IMBY post... many other places are well behind their seasonal average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 How much snow do you have OTG???I'd say prolly 6"....but i haven't actually measured snow depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 You guys in MI might want to watch the models. GFS is trying to develop a wave that kicks back some snow on Saturday. NAM does too. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 You guys in MI might want to watch the models. GFS is trying to develop a wave that kicks back some snow on Saturday. http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/models/gfshires/20160114/18Z/f042/acc10_1snowmw.png NAM does too. http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/models/nam/20160114/18Z/f42/acc10_1snowmw.png Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusBeier Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 WE WILL TAKE IT! We just built up nice powder to 7+ inches and now this Rain is forecast..blah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 WE WILL TAKE IT! We just built up nice powder to 7+ inches and now this Rain is forecast..blahExactly! Same with me 6-7inches+ on the ground. With arctic air coming, this snowcover aint going nowhere. Tomorrows brief warm-up will be only at 36 to 38F with a cold light rain. I have rain changing to snow tomorrow night and hello arctic air. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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