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Very curious to see how this storm will pan out.

 

NOT me - another dud in the making - bank it ;)

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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If the 0z runs don't have any improvement in the situation, I will be in support of a weakening trend with this thing. No point in having rain, then a little bit of wet snow, imo. I'd take one of the drier EURO runs at this point.

Beginning to wonder if any different solution other than last Saturday's is possible.

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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If the 0z runs don't have any improvement in the situation, I will be in support of a weakening trend with this thing. No point in having rain, then a little bit of wet snow, imo. I'd take one of the drier EURO runs at this point.

Beginning to wonder if any different solution other than last Saturday's is possible.

I would at l east wait till 12z or 0z tomorrow as there should be better sampling
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lol @ anyone who thought this storm had potential

Enough trolling-

If you would have seen the EURO on Sunday, you would have gotten excited too.

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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I mean, really though, it's hard to take the Euro seriously. Especially at that range, and given how it has performed this season.

 

Still, though. The solution made sense at the time.

 

The GGEM was trying to get a significant system together as well.

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Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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The storm threat was within 5 days and there was model/ensemble support at the time....and continued for a couple days until just recently.  Everybody that posted would have done the same in the January thread anyway.  Given the nature of the pattern and utilizing the different theories to lay out a forecast, it justified a storm thread.  If your upset at the way this storm has trended based on model date, you can take it up to Mother Nature.  

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lol @ anyone who thought this storm had potential

Dude, if your mid-month torch had been showing up Day 10 I'm sure you would be hootin' and hollarin'.  Better yet, if there was a snow potential you'd be making ORD = DAB calls.

 

I know your an active poster and you didn't even post on the last Clipper.  That tells me you don't even care about tracking snow systems...so why even make a derogatory comment like that?

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Dude, if your mid-month torch had been showing up Day 10 I'm sure you would be hootin' and hollarin'.  Better yet, if there was a snow potential you'd be making ORD = DAB calls.

 

I know your an active poster and you didn't even post on the last Clipper.  That tells me you don't even care about tracking snow systems...so why even make a derogatory comment like that?

the weekend snow event was pretty much a DAB. Sure, we got 1.5" from it (many areas got less), but that's hardly appreciable.

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Also, I was being sarcastic when I made that mid-month torch call, but there's no doubt Thurs and Fri will be above normal  ;)

Sure, sure, sure...typical "hindsight 20-20" comment...but I wouldn't even give you credit because it doesn't justify as a torch...lol...carry on

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Looking like a weak wave along the front.

 

Really need a sharp baroclinic zone to get storms wound up. If this system was coming out of the SW a day later with the Arctic air coming back it would be a much different storm. Just bad timing.

That Clipper last night was the most exciting thing this month.  :D

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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The WAA is weak with this low. Just looking at sounding, the boundary layer that is above freezing is very shallow. It's almost to the point where snow could almost fall underneath the low.

 

Sounding for ORD at 66 hours.

 

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Geos, on 12 Jan 2016 - 10:14 PM, said:

Looking like a weak wave along the front.

 

Really need a sharp baroclinic zone to get storms wound up. If this system was coming out of the SW a day later with the Arctic air coming back it would be a much different storm. Just bad timing.

That Clipper last night was the most exciting thing this month.  :D

kinda sad,  no?

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kinda sad,  no?

 

Yeah sorta.

 

Problem is that darn sub tropical jet isn't allowing the system to dig. The potential is there if it wasn't for that. Bigger storms in el Niño winters usually come early or late.

 

EURO was north btw.

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Dude, if your mid-month torch had been showing up Day 10 I'm sure you would be hootin' and hollarin'.  Better yet, if there was a snow potential you'd be making ORD = DAB calls.

 

I know your an active poster and you didn't even post on the last Clipper.  That tells me you don't even care about tracking snow systems...so why even make a derogatory comment like that?

Maxim is an active poster only because 1/2 of his posts are "lol". What's even more sad is that the thread that was created for these trolls just has Maxim talking to himself and wondering why more people aren't posting in that thread. Seriously, go check it out.

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Maxim is an active poster only because 1/2 of his posts are "lol". What's even more sad is that the thread that was created for these trolls just has Maxim talking to himself and wondering why more people aren't posting in that thread. Seriously, go check it out.

lol

 

other weather forums have banter/complaint threads too, it's not made for "trolls". I just found it strange how nobody was posting on it given how this winter has played out so far.

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Maxim is an active poster only because 1/2 of his posts are "lol". What's even more sad is that the thread that was created for these trolls just has Maxim talking to himself and wondering why more people aren't posting in that thread. Seriously, go check it out.

Shhh, you're giving away our secret

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18z GFS was dry for most everyone now unless you're east of I-57 or above 44° N.

 

If Gosaints is lucky he might get some snow along with Snowshoe.

 

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Nope, because I'm almost already at my seasonal avg snowfall and we have several days coming up with below 0 weather and bitter cold wind chills. Things of which you said would not happen this winter. I'm enjoying it.

How much snow do you have OTG???

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Picked up another 2" tonight from a fast disturbance. My snowfall just keeps adding up. :D

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Nope, because I'm almost already at my seasonal avg snowfall and we have several days coming up with below 0 weather and bitter cold wind chills. Things of which you said would not happen this winter. I'm enjoying it.

lol, when did I say it wouldn't happen? Pretty much every winter has featured subzero temps except for 2011-2012 maybe. Also, any normal human being wouldn't enjoy several days of "below 0 weather and bitter cold wind chills". Also another IMBY post... many other places are well behind their seasonal average.

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You guys in MI might want to watch the models. GFS is trying to develop a wave that kicks back some snow on Saturday.

 

 

NAM does too.

 

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Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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You guys in MI might want to watch the models. GFS is trying to develop a wave that kicks back some snow on Saturday.

 

http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/models/gfshires/20160114/18Z/f042/acc10_1snowmw.png

 

NAM does too.

 

http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/models/nam/20160114/18Z/f42/acc10_1snowmw.png

:D :o

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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WE WILL TAKE IT! We just built up nice powder to 7+ inches and now this Rain is forecast..blah

Exactly! Same with me 6-7inches+ on the ground. With arctic air coming, this snowcover aint going nowhere. Tomorrows brief warm-up will be only at 36 to 38F with a cold light rain. I have rain changing to snow tomorrow night and hello arctic air. 

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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