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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:17 PM

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Euro drops dewpoints in Willamette Valley into the minus teens F.   Maybe they can bring back the red flag warning



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:23 PM

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January 2004 was the worst ice storm in the Willamette Valley in the 25 years I have lived here. Ice storms are not as common in the valley as in the Metro area and points east...I would say the top ones we've had in the Salem/Silverton area were.

 

1) January 2004

2) December 2008

3) February 1996

4) January 1998

5) December 1995 


Snowfall

2018-19: 0.1"

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:25 PM

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I can't stand how the local news talks about the cold weather. They make it sound taboo. They assume everyone hates cold weather. Idiots.


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We come from the land of the ice and snow.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:26 PM

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Euro drops dewpoints in Willamette Valley into the minus teens F.   Maybe they can bring back the red flag warning

Nice below zero temps and raging wildfires. What a fun end to Winter :D



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:27 PM

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January 2004 was the worst ice storm in the Willamette Valley in the 25 years I have lived here. Ice storms are not as common in the valley as in the Metro area and points east...I would say the top ones we've had in the Salem/Silverton area were.

 

1) January 2004

2) December 2008

3) February 1996

4) January 1998

5) December 1995 

For my location December 1996 was much worse than any of those.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:27 PM

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January 2004 was the worst ice storm in the Willamette Valley in the 25 years I have lived here. Ice storms are not as common in the valley as in the Metro area and points east...I would say the top ones we've had in the Salem/Silverton area were.
 
1) January 2004
2) December 2008
3) February 1996
4) January 1998
5) December 1995


We had probably 8-10 inches of snow in 2004, and I remember it raining and there were puddles of water on the snow, then it all froze. And lasted much longer than anyone thought it would.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:29 PM

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For my location December 1996 was much worse than any of those.


I don't remember 1996's wintry weather at all, but I vividly remember the flood that followed.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:29 PM

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January 2004 was the worst ice storm in the Willamette Valley in the 25 years I have lived here. Ice storms are not as common in the valley as in the Metro area and points east...I would say the top ones we've had in the Salem/Silverton area were.

 

1) January 2004

2) December 2008

3) February 1996

4) January 1998

5) December 1995 

 

I think the key will be can we can enough snow to cool the low level atmosphere so the warm air/winds will have a harder time scouring out all that cold air. Even if the models say the cold air will be scored out I will not believe it until I actually see it. Plus the Gorge will be snow covered and it will keep feeding in frozen frigid air that models cannot see.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:30 PM

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I don't remember 1996's wintry weather at all, but I vividly remember the flood that followed.

 

There was actually some chilly weather in late February 1996 after the floods. We got about 2" of snow one night down in Silverton and then we went up to Silver Falls to sled and there was about 15" on the ground.


Snowfall

2018-19: 0.1"

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:31 PM

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For my location December 1996 was much worse than any of those.

 

For my location the day of the E county ice storm it was 50 degrees with rain.

 

It did snow about an inch a couple days later down here.


Snowfall

2018-19: 0.1"

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:31 PM

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It has been shown to be wildly inaccurate in the past. I just don't get the point of posting it. What kind of reaction were you expecting?

You had to have known people would respond negatively. I don't buy the innocent act.

Dude... I just got home and read every post from 2pm onward, and my reaction to the forum up until this point was completely different than yours. For you, it brought you down, for me, everything and everyone seemed pretty excited. So what if there was a map of PDX forecasted temps from the GFS that were obviously too warm. Is it impossible for you to glance it over and move on without aBcITCHING about it? abChrist.  I was excited and happy reading through every post up until your shullbit. I did not find one post, even from Tim believe it or not, that looked like it was made to get a reaction out of anyone. The only thing in my entire life that is annoying the shucking fit out of me is reading your sensitive itchy bast posts about people being negative and trying to get bad reactions out of other members. So sensitive you are, Mommas boy. Yes, that is an insult. IFred, delete this post if you must.

Rant Over... 

It’s 26.9*F and crystal clear. I will be ice skating on Lake Geneva by Thursday afternoon, and shoveling snow drifts of 2 feet away from my front door by next Sunday, in hopes that the fed ex guy can see my address and deliver my Super Bowl Memorabilia Package... GO HAWKS. I must go to bed. I will awake at 4:30am for a 5 hour hike!  :D It’s going to be 1 incredible weekend. 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:32 PM

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00z EURO -20c 850mb PDX HR 114



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:34 PM

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We had probably 8-10 inches of snow in 2004, and I remember it raining and there were puddles of water on the snow, then it all froze. And lasted much longer than anyone thought it would.

 

I remember it being 19 degrees and pouring rain. 

 

For the Silverton/Salem area the Dec 29-Jan 8 period did not have much less snow than December 2008. However, 08' was much colder and the snow stayed on the ground much longer. There were 3 separate significant snow events in 03-04, but the snow melted between each one of them.


Snowfall

2018-19: 0.1"

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:34 PM

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Dude... I just got home and read every post from 2pm onward, and my reaction to the forum up until this point was completely different than yours. For you, it brought you down, for me, everything and everyone seemed pretty excited. So what if there was a map of PDX forecasted temps from the GFS that were obviously too warm. Is it impossible for you to glance it over and move on without aBcITCHING about it? abChrist.  I was excited and happy reading through every post up until your shullbit. I did not find one post, even from Tim believe it or not, that looked like it was made to get a reaction out of anyone. The only thing in my entire life that is annoying the shucking fit out of me is reading your sensitive itchy bast posts about people being negative and trying to get bad reactions out of other members. So sensitive you are, Mommas boy. Yes, that is an insult. IFred, delete this post if you must.
Rant Over... 
It’s 26.9*F and crystal clear. I will be ice skating on Lake Geneva by Thursday afternoon, and shoveling snow drifts of 2 feet away from my front door by next Sunday, in hopes that the fed ex guy can see my address and deliver my Super Bowl Memorabilia Package... GO HAWKS. I must go to bed. I will awake at 4:30am for a 5 hour hike!  :D It’s going to be 1 incredible weekend.

You nailed it!!! :)

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:35 PM

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Get outta town.


Snowfall

2018-19: 0.1"

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:35 PM

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So are we going to Limbo Some More with cold weather?



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:37 PM

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But the high will be 37!
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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 13

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:39 PM

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Looks like we're back in business. Gonna take a lot to squeeze more than an inch out of this before the overrunning event. I doubt it will be as bad as December snowfall wise, but it's gonna be pretty dry.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:39 PM

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In spite of the stupid cloud cover in this area the dry continental air is working its way in. The dp at Boeing Field just dropped to 29. Going to be hard for low clouds to survive too long in that.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 13

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:39 PM

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But the high will be 37!

Might end up with upper 10's to low 20's if this continues. Pure craziness



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:42 PM

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Looks like we're back in business. Gonna take a lot to squeeze more than an inch out of this before the overrunning event. I doubt it will be as bad as December snowfall wise, but it's gonna be pretty dry.


The big story of this event will be the extreme cold, wind chills in some places, and the over-running event at the end. The models are hinting at something big with that. There is still a chance we could revert to a cold pattern after a brief moderation in the 9 to 10 day period.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 13

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:49 PM

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The big story of this event will be the extreme cold, wind chills in some places, and the over-running event at the end. The models are hinting at something big with that. There is still a chance we could revert to a cold pattern after a brief moderation in the 9 to 10 day period.

Yes, but in the end the events get judged on snow quantity and quality.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:54 PM

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It is hard to not get excited after reading 10 pages here and looking at all the models. Viewing all this is as good if not better than watching any movie. I really hope that the models verify, but more than anything I want the snow here. It would be really amazing if we could get an inch or two of snow on Monday into Tuesday so that we could get some record lows out of the air mass with snow cover. Currently clear and 29F here. One subfreezing low in what looks like many to come. Onto the February discussion tomorrow!


Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 40 mph (2015, 2012)   Wettest Day: 2.43 (2012)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"

Snowfall Totals
2008-09: 30" | 2009-10: 0.5" | 2010-11: 21" | 2011-12: 9.5" | 2012-13: 0.2" | 2013-14: 6.2" | 2014-15: 0.0" | 2015-16: 0.25"| 2016-17: 8.0"

2017-18: 0.9" (11/3: 0.1", 11/5: 0.5", 12/25: 0.01", 2/22: 0.3")


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:56 PM

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Yes, but in the end the events get judged on snow quantity and quality.

Yep... Without snow that actually sticks around this cold means squat... It is nice for the record books but in the end nobody really remembers it. A quick snow too rain transition is pure mess and useless. A good snow that sticks around a few days is what we all want...

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:59 PM

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The dp at Boeing Field just dropped to 29. Going to be hard for low clouds to survive too long in that.


Clouds don't give a s**t about the dewpoint as long as the temperature is equal to within 1 degree of it. Clouds provide enough radiative impedance to avoid early dissipation along dry lines.
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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:11 AM

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I just farted....



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:32 AM

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I just farted....

Global warming


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:34 AM

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Dude... I just got home and read every post from 2pm onward, and my reaction to the forum up until this point was completely different than yours. For you, it brought you down, for me, everything and everyone seemed pretty excited. So what if there was a map of PDX forecasted temps from the GFS that were obviously too warm. Is it impossible for you to glance it over and move on without aBcITCHING about it? abChrist.  I was excited and happy reading through every post up until your shullbit. I did not find one post, even from Tim believe it or not, that looked like it was made to get a reaction out of anyone. The only thing in my entire life that is annoying the shucking fit out of me is reading your sensitive itchy bast posts about people being negative and trying to get bad reactions out of other members. So sensitive you are, Mommas boy. Yes, that is an insult. IFred, delete this post if you must.
Rant Over... 
It’s 26.9*F and crystal clear. I will be ice skating on Lake Geneva by Thursday afternoon, and shoveling snow drifts of 2 feet away from my front door by next Sunday, in hopes that the fed ex guy can see my address and deliver my Super Bowl Memorabilia Package... GO HAWKS. I must go to bed. I will awake at 4:30am for a 5 hour hike!  :D It’s going to be 1 incredible weekend.


A master piece like this should never be deleted! Lake Geneva ice skating will be epic! You better join us Mattias.
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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:38 AM

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Yes, but in the end the events get judged on snow quantity and quality.


The cold will be quite notable with this. It takes cold to make snow.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 13

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:41 AM

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Yep... Without snow that actually sticks around this cold means squat... It is nice for the record books but in the end nobody really remembers it. A quick snow too rain transition is pure mess and useless. A good snow that sticks around a few days is what we all want...


If the models are correct the snow event at the end could be quite memorable even if it melts rather quickly. The snowfall could be quite heavy and there could be significant blowing snow in the outflow areas. I hope to God I'm not going to have to read a bunch of shitty posts when we are going into an historic cold wave.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 13

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:45 AM

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 I hope to God I'm not going to have to read a bunch of shitty posts when we are going into an historic cold wave.

Well I give you my word you wont see a post from me bashing you or being negative 



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:52 AM

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Well I give you my word you wont see a post from me bashing you or being negative


I was just saying it takes all of the fun out of this to see posts that are full of complaining. I hope people can appreciate this will probably be one of the 3 greatest Feb cold waves since the late 1930s.
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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 13

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 01:00 AM

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I was just saying it takes all of the fun out of this to see posts that are full of complaining. I hope people can appreciate this will probably be one of the 3 greatest Feb cold waves since the late 1930s.

I agree and would love nothing more for the newest runs to verify and to see some of the temps the ensembles are showing but there will inevitable be some negativity especially if the trend goes to s**t.



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 01:17 AM

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From Saturday through next Tuesday:

 

5mlamu.jpg

 

And snow depth at 192 hours:

 

33kuolt.jpg



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 01:24 AM

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From Saturday through next Tuesday:

 

5mlamu.jpg

 

And snow depth at 192 hours:

 

33kuolt.jpg

Those in California have to be happy to see these maps



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From Saturday through next Tuesday:

 

5mlamu.jpg

 

And snow depth at 192 hours:

 

33kuolt.jpg

 

SKOOKUM!



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 01:46 AM

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Dude... I just got home and read every post from 2pm onward, and my reaction to the forum up until this point was completely different than yours. For you, it brought you down, for me, everything and everyone seemed pretty excited. So what if there was a map of PDX forecasted temps from the GFS that were obviously too warm. Is it impossible for you to glance it over and move on without aBcITCHING about it? abChrist.  I was excited and happy reading through every post up until your shullbit. I did not find one post, even from Tim believe it or not, that looked like it was made to get a reaction out of anyone. The only thing in my entire life that is annoying the shucking fit out of me is reading your sensitive itchy bast posts about people being negative and trying to get bad reactions out of other members. So sensitive you are, Mommas boy. Yes, that is an insult. IFred, delete this post if you must.

Rant Over... 

It’s 26.9*F and crystal clear. I will be ice skating on Lake Geneva by Thursday afternoon, and shoveling snow drifts of 2 feet away from my front door by next Sunday, in hopes that the fed ex guy can see my address and deliver my Super Bowl Memorabilia Package... GO HAWKS. I must go to bed. I will awake at 4:30am for a 5 hour hike!  :D It’s going to be 1 incredible weekend. 

 

 

Lake Geneva is *****. I want to see Lake Whatcom with solid ice around it. And I want to see Lake Padden freeze.



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 01:53 AM

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Those euro snow maps are beautiful. 



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http://mag.ncep.noaa...llx=0&scrolly=0

 

We really need this block to phase together and dig south and not west. . .  I say there’s a shot. 



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 06:33 AM

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We really need this block to phase together and dig south and not west. . . I say there’s a shot.


I agree. Awesome post Brennan! :)
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Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:01 AM

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12z still shows a nice event out of the cold. Looking like the low might come in weaker and south or stall and sink south. That would have major impacts on the snow duration.


We come from the land of the ice and snow.


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:04 AM

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Pretty nice model runs the last few days. Also, higher potential for an overrunning storm this go around imo.


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Winter 2018/2019

Nov 24: 3.3", 30: 1" (4.3"); Dec 2: 4.6", 3: .8", 5: .3" (5.7")

Total: 10.0"

 

Winter 2017/2018

Dec 4: 3.2", 16: 0.9", 20: 2.1", 23: 1.5", 25: 4.6" (12.3") ::: Jan 6: 1.5", 20: 10.8", 25: 1.5" (13.8") ::: Feb 19: 8.6", 20: 2.4", 23: 7.1", 25: .5" (18.6") ::: Mar 4: 13", 15: 1.8", 17: 5.3", 25: 4.2" (24.3") ::: April 12: 1", 17: 1.3" (2.3")

Total: 69.3"

 

Winter 2016/17 Snow:
Nov 17: 3.2", 23: 1.6", 28: 9.2" (14) ::: Dec 1: .5", 16: 2.5", 25: 13" (16) ::: Jan 2: 5", 3: 2.4", 4: 7.7", 12: 1", 19: 1.2", 21: 13", 23: 6", 24: 1", 25: 3.7", 26: 2.5" (43.5)  ::: Feb 11: .5", 23: 6.5", 27: 4.5" (13.5) ::: Mar 5: 5.5" (5.5) ::: Apr 8: 2", 9: 1.8" (3.8) ::: May 17: 1" (1)

Total: 96.3"


#3043
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Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:29 AM

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From Saturday through next Tuesday:
 
 
 
And snow depth at 192 hours:

A whole lot more of nothing for me :(



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 12:39 PM

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The CFS has been extremely consistent in showing a 45 temperature anomaly map very much like this.  The cold in the far NW digging deep into the heartland scenario..

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 13

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 03 February 2014 - 09:31 AM

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snowing at my office in Scappoose, 60' elevation.



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Posted 03 February 2014 - 09:56 AM

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snowing at my office in Scappoose, 60' elevation.


Post on February's thread. :)

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 11:45 AM

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FINALLY snowing at 500' in Battle Ground. I'm sure it won't last very long, but it's SO nice to see large flakes falling vertically.


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Posted 03 February 2014 - 11:46 AM

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Now they'll shut half the schools and send everyone home for a dusting of snow.

 

For almost nothing on the radar, I'm seeing some pretty heavy snow. Temp has dropped from 35F to 34F, and it's beginning to stick.


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Posted 03 February 2014 - 11:55 AM

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Hi


We come from the land of the ice and snow.


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Posted 03 February 2014 - 12:26 PM

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Latest Post: Some Call It The Greatest Thing That Ever Happened. I Call It Winter  (Sorry for the Upworthy Style title!)

 

Highlights:

-Mega mountain snows

-Much needed snows for the ski season

-Localized strait-effect snow for Vancouver Island tomorrow?


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