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Posted 03 October 2016 - 11:43 PM

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EURO Weeklies in the 4-11 and then in the 25-32 signal cold sitting right over central US with a 3 week break in between. From what I've followed since late August, this would be very consistent with a pattern that started around that time with. Precip pattern for this month on there resembles a late September-November 2010. I don't know enough about 1983 time frame but if I had to put money on it, I would guess that we have something close to a similar pattern, give or take a week to 10 days.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 04:24 AM

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DMX mentions possible widespread frost this weekend across N IA.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 05:17 AM

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Surprised no one is talking about Matthew. Sounds like a US landfall.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 05:31 AM

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Surprised no one is talking about Matthew. Sounds like a US landfall.

It's current track takes it up and along the FL coastline and the SE coast...like a nasty curve-ball.  Beaches are going to take a beating.  I think this is a worst case scenario if the storm can maintain strength and intensity while tracking just offshore and along the coast.  The storms wind will be rotating onshore and pounding heavy rain, waves and storm surge from the SE.

 

 

 

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 05:45 AM

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What a beautiful, crisp, October morning here in SEMI. 55F and sunny skies with dewpoints in the upper 40s.



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 05:48 AM

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Surprised no one is talking about Matthew. Sounds like a US landfall.

Florida up to NE needs to pay attention to Mathew. It is entirely possible that many communities from eastern Virginia into New York and New England could see a period of damaging winds as the system starts to transition to cold-core type of character. If I were on the EC, I would start preparing.



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 05:51 AM

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Mathew has gained some strength. Currently at 145mph. (A cat4). Would not be surprised if it goes to a Cat5. It is currently under some very warm waters.



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 06:35 AM

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My brother lives a half hr SE of Raleigh. Hes excited lol.
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Posted 04 October 2016 - 07:25 AM

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Here is another piece of info. on Hurricane Mathew.

 

http://www.orlandose...1003-story.html



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 07:33 AM

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My brother lives a half hr SE of Raleigh. Hes excited lol.

I'd be nervous. :o . Flooding is number one cause of deaths with these powerful storms.



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 07:35 AM

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Surprised no one is talking about Matthew. Sounds like a US landfall.

It is looking likely!



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 07:51 AM

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Brrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!

 

Coming to a winter near you! (not a huge fan of the bitter stuff, but we all know that's almost a requirement for serious storm potential. Without it, you get last year. Maybe 2007-08 around here is the best win-win for those that love to see storms but don't want the sub-zero lingering for days and days on end.


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Winter 2017-18 Snow Total = 0"  Oct: 0.0 Nov: 0.0 Dec: 0.0 Jan: 0.0 Feb: 0.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 (annual avg for mby = ~49.9")

 

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 52"

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 57.4"

Winter 2014-15 Snow Total = 55.3"

Winter 2013-14 Snow Total = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 

Winter 2012-13 Snow Total = 47.2"

Winter 2011-12 Snow Total = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 04 October 2016 - 08:02 AM

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Mathew has gained some strength. Currently at 145mph. (A cat4). Would not be surprised if it goes to a Cat5. It is currently under some very warm waters.

 

These things strengthen over open water, then get turbulence over any land mass bigger than an atol. This is going to cross over land masses non-stop on it's current trajectory so I'm looking for this to weaken substantially. It will have to come within 50 miles of the coast to be significant. My Mom rode out Charlie in '04 (100 mph gusts) with virtually zero damage at her double-wide park on the gulf side in Venice. They were spared a direct hit thanks to that last minute curve inland at Punta Gorda. She didn't stay there ofc, but went to my cousin's block home further inland to ride it out. Damaging winds are fairly close to the eye on most canes. 


Winter 2017-18 Snow Total = 0"  Oct: 0.0 Nov: 0.0 Dec: 0.0 Jan: 0.0 Feb: 0.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 (annual avg for mby = ~49.9")

 

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 52"

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 57.4"

Winter 2014-15 Snow Total = 55.3"

Winter 2013-14 Snow Total = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 

Winter 2012-13 Snow Total = 47.2"

Winter 2011-12 Snow Total = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 04 October 2016 - 08:13 AM

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These things strengthen over open water, then get turbulence over any land mass bigger than an atol. This is going to cross over land masses non-stop on it's current trajectory so I'm looking for this to weaken substantially. It will have to come within 50 miles of the coast to be significant. My Mom rode out Charlie in '04 (100 mph gusts) with virtually zero damage at her double-wide park on the gulf side in Venice. They were spared a direct hit thanks to that last minute curve inland at Punta Gorda. She didn't stay there ofc, but went to my cousin's block home further inland to ride it out. Damaging winds are fairly close to the eye on most canes. 

This will indeed weaken as it moves north up the EC, no question about it. The waters are cooler then what its currently over. Probably a CAT1 by the Carolina's or even maybe a 2 at the most.



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 08:21 AM

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 08:54 AM

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Awesome. Can you tell me where or send me a link to where you made your map?

I just went to google and searched images. I typed in December 1983 surface air anomalies. 



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 09:15 AM

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A month of contrasts. Lovin' the pinks in Montana and the "hot pinks" down in FL:

 


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Winter 2017-18 Snow Total = 0"  Oct: 0.0 Nov: 0.0 Dec: 0.0 Jan: 0.0 Feb: 0.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 (annual avg for mby = ~49.9")

 

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 52"

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 57.4"

Winter 2014-15 Snow Total = 55.3"

Winter 2013-14 Snow Total = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 

Winter 2012-13 Snow Total = 47.2"

Winter 2011-12 Snow Total = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 04 October 2016 - 09:17 AM

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State of emergency issued: Could Hurricane Matthew impact North Carolina?

 
 
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Posted 04 October 2016 - 09:48 AM

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I'm so over hurricanes.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 09:51 AM

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Direct path where my brother lives

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 09:58 AM

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Direct path where my brother lives

 

For the county where my buddy lives near Cape Canaveral. I never read one of these but man, that's some serious wording. Winds, floods, twisters, surging tides....you get it all with a serious cane....sheesh  Edit: that's a bit south, he's near Port St. John, but same watch in effect.

 


Winter 2017-18 Snow Total = 0"  Oct: 0.0 Nov: 0.0 Dec: 0.0 Jan: 0.0 Feb: 0.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 (annual avg for mby = ~49.9")

 

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 52"

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 57.4"

Winter 2014-15 Snow Total = 55.3"

Winter 2013-14 Snow Total = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 

Winter 2012-13 Snow Total = 47.2"

Winter 2011-12 Snow Total = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 04 October 2016 - 10:03 AM

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I'm so over hurricanes.

 

:huh:  your reason(s)?  I don't wish for them but they keep this time of year more interesting on the wx front. Can't stop 'em


Winter 2017-18 Snow Total = 0"  Oct: 0.0 Nov: 0.0 Dec: 0.0 Jan: 0.0 Feb: 0.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 (annual avg for mby = ~49.9")

 

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 52"

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 57.4"

Winter 2014-15 Snow Total = 55.3"

Winter 2013-14 Snow Total = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 

Winter 2012-13 Snow Total = 47.2"

Winter 2011-12 Snow Total = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 04 October 2016 - 10:10 AM

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I hadn't seen this before. Didn't realize Charlie packed such a punch. This thing was heading straight for Venice where my Mom, Aunt, and Uncle were all living at the time in retirement double-wides. It took a last minute jog east. So glad too.

 

(no, I don't want this in my 'hood, but wow! just watched it again. This is the closest I wanna get to such a storm tbh :lol:)

 

https://youtu.be/unV5KcSrY-I


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Winter 2017-18 Snow Total = 0"  Oct: 0.0 Nov: 0.0 Dec: 0.0 Jan: 0.0 Feb: 0.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 (annual avg for mby = ~49.9")

 

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 52"

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 57.4"

Winter 2014-15 Snow Total = 55.3"

Winter 2013-14 Snow Total = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 

Winter 2012-13 Snow Total = 47.2"

Winter 2011-12 Snow Total = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 04 October 2016 - 10:54 AM

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I hadn't seen this before. Didn't realize Charlie packed such a punch. This thing was heading straight for Venice where my Mom, Aunt, and Uncle were all living at the time in retirement double-wides. It took a last minute jog east. So glad too.

 

(no, I don't want this in my 'hood, but wow! just watched it again. This is the closest I wanna get to such a storm tbh :lol:)

 

https://youtu.be/unV5KcSrY-I

Can you imagine pumping gas, while experiencing that??!! :lol:



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 11:07 AM

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Thats some heavy wording.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 11:38 AM

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The euro has become pretty flat with the weekend trough, not really getting too chilly around here.  It's also pretty warm in the extended.


season snowfall: 0.0"

 

'16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


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Posted 04 October 2016 - 11:41 AM

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The euro has become pretty flat with the weekend trough, not really getting too chilly around here. It's also pretty warm in the extended.

I noticed the GFS is warm and dry in the extended as well. Not a good start to the new LRC if this verifies.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 12:18 PM

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The euro has become pretty flat with the weekend trough, not really getting too chilly around here.  It's also pretty warm in the extended.

 

I noticed the GFS is warm and dry in the extended as well. Not a good start to the new LRC if this verifies.

 

Iirc, Lezak has stressed that his LRC propagates across the hemisphere (CONUS) in more or less a N to S fashion with the progression of the new cold season. I'd worry more about what's going on "upstream" from us than what's going on down at our latitudes. In '81, I don't recall seeing a flake before Dec. Even had a strong April-like T-storm that month. First real snow was a couple days before Christmas...the rest is now infamous history. 2007 is a more recent example.  If N. Canada remains warm and dry....then I'll join you in wringing hands but not before   ;)


Winter 2017-18 Snow Total = 0"  Oct: 0.0 Nov: 0.0 Dec: 0.0 Jan: 0.0 Feb: 0.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 (annual avg for mby = ~49.9")

 

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 52"

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 57.4"

Winter 2014-15 Snow Total = 55.3"

Winter 2013-14 Snow Total = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 

Winter 2012-13 Snow Total = 47.2"

Winter 2011-12 Snow Total = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 04 October 2016 - 12:48 PM

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12z Euro is indeed torchy in the extended.  The blocking pattern allows Canada to fill up with some real cold air.  This time of year, -AO/NAO respond differently than in the winter/spring months.  Some peeps may get their first heavy frost this weekend and then the warmth will invade.  Indian Summer anyone???



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:37 PM

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I took a look at the teleconnections response in the month of October for the lower 48.  Here is the AO/NAO....

 

AO

 

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NAO...Once you get into Nov, then you start seeing colder anomalies, more so in Dec-Mar

 

NAOneg_10oct.png

 

 

 

I've also included a +PNA...

 

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 02:06 PM

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I took a look at the teleconnections response in the month of October for the lower 48. Here is the AO/NAO....

AO

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NAO...Once you get into Nov, then you start seeing colder anomalies, more so in Dec-Mar

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I've also included a +PNA...

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 02:11 PM

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12z Euro is indeed torchy in the extended. The blocking pattern allows Canada to fill up with some real cold air. This time of year, -AO/NAO respond differently than in the winter/spring months. Some peeps may get their first heavy frost this weekend and then the warmth will invade. Indian Summer anyone???


I think I got my threads mixed up the other day but I believe there's no problem with a CONUS torch in October and November. According to analogs, should see a brief hard cold shot in late November and then again in mid to late December. I'm not too worried. Had no clue my analogs were going to be that perfect for September. Major confidence boost for me.
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Dang it...here is the -AO/NAO and +PNA...



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@ Okwx, what is the EPO looking like?  Is it turning positive??



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 02:20 PM

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:huh: your reason(s)? I don't wish for them but they keep this time of year more interesting on the wx front. Can't stop 'em


It's like tornadoes to me. Never understood the joy some get out of seeing people's lives get destroyed. People literally drive to these places to experience that type of weather but they usually do nothing to help or support those whose lives are destroyed. It's just a bug I have. Not aggravated at anyone. I was ok with it when it was about science, now it's just a spectacle and stuff for everyone to over sensationalize.

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I'd call that a loading pattern for cold in the late part of October if not sooner.

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AO
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I'd call that a loading pattern for cold in the late part of October if not sooner.

I'd say so!  Euro continues with it's EPO issues.  It keeps delaying the positive spike.  You have to wonder, maybe the models are missing something with all that blocking??!!

 

18z GFS run is showing more cooling through the 13th which is exactly when the Euro has the EPO begin going positive.  I wonder if we see models continue the warmer look or start trending cooler Day 5-10.



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 02:55 PM

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Has Lezak given any updates on the new LRC or any new thoughts on it?
Nice to see GFS look a bit cooler. 12z looked torchy.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 02:56 PM

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Models really took a jump west with Matthew. 12z Euro has a direct hit on east central FL now.Evacuations going down.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 02:56 PM

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Has Lezak given any updates on the new LRC or any new thoughts on it?
Nice to see GFS look a bit cooler. 12z looked torchy.

No, not yet.  He prob will sometime later this week.  October 7th is normally when the new pattern locks in.



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 03:51 PM

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I'd say so! Euro continues with it's EPO issues. It keeps delaying the positive spike. You have to wonder, maybe the models are missing something with all that blocking??!!

18z GFS run is showing more cooling through the 13th which is exactly when the Euro has the EPO begin going positive. I wonder if we see models continue the warmer look or start trending cooler Day 5-10.


There is that possibility. I'm kind of using a pretty solid blend when looking at the longer ranges at this time. The weeklies had the later cold punch around the very end of the 3rd week of October. I think that's a pretty solid time frame still. There should be better agreement amongst latter ranges of the models after the big front goes through this weekend. I still maintain that an above normal October overall would be par for the course.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 06:28 PM

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Some nice weather is looking likely with no Rain in the forecast at all for most in this forum, well, almost all. Enjoy it while you have it. :D



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Posted 05 October 2016 - 05:12 AM

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It's a very pleasant, almost summery feel this morning with sunny skies and a nice breeze from the south.  Humidity has ticked up a bit but out ahead of a weak front from the storm targeting southern Canada.

 

Interesting small little storm will develop along a frontal boundary on Thursday in the Plains and track towards the western Lakes...

 

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Rain/Snow mix for the Arrowhead????

 

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 05:40 AM

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A rather peculiar development in the stratosphere Day 5-10  is positioned to develop over N.A next week.  The Euro is suggesting a weakening state of the PV, with an elongating of the vortex and nearly splitting it by Day 10.  00z GFS shows a piece of the PV dipping down near Hudson Bay by the 11th.

 

Euro Day 10....

 

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If you'd show me this sort of map in the Winter with all the blocking present, I'd say, look out.  At 500mb, the new LRC is showing an ominous look for cold intrusion into the lower 48 if this hypothetically is the "look" as we head deeper into the cold season.  I know the models are showing a ridge underneath, but with seasonal differences in the jet stream later on, this is something to keep in the back of your mind once this part of the LRC cycles through in late November. 



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Posted 05 October 2016 - 05:49 AM

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A hard Frost is likely for parts of NE/KS Thu night....

 

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 07:16 AM

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Funny we're now talking freezes when temps have rebounded over here like summer. I've noticed over the years that SMI will remain warm if there's a 'cane roaming the GOMEX or eastern seaboard. That tropical stuff will need to play out before we see chilly wx visiting mby in Marshall. Matthew looks to make an impact. Guys (Andrew, Hugo, Matthew) wanna rough up the EC, girls like the gulf coast it seems


Winter 2017-18 Snow Total = 0"  Oct: 0.0 Nov: 0.0 Dec: 0.0 Jan: 0.0 Feb: 0.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 (annual avg for mby = ~49.9")

 

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 52"

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 57.4"

Winter 2014-15 Snow Total = 55.3"

Winter 2013-14 Snow Total = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 

Winter 2012-13 Snow Total = 47.2"

Winter 2011-12 Snow Total = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 05 October 2016 - 07:19 AM

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It's like tornadoes to me. Never understood the joy some get out of seeing people's lives get destroyed. People literally drive to these places to experience that type of weather but they usually do nothing to help or support those whose lives are destroyed. It's just a bug I have. Not aggravated at anyone. I was ok with it when it was about science, now it's just a spectacle and stuff for everyone to over sensationalize.

 

THAT! /\/\ 

 

Couldn't agree more...total lack of concern is rampant in these chasers from what I've seen. 


Winter 2017-18 Snow Total = 0"  Oct: 0.0 Nov: 0.0 Dec: 0.0 Jan: 0.0 Feb: 0.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 (annual avg for mby = ~49.9")

 

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 52"

Winter 2015-16 Snow Total = 57.4"

Winter 2014-15 Snow Total = 55.3"

Winter 2013-14 Snow Total = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 

Winter 2012-13 Snow Total = 47.2"

Winter 2011-12 Snow Total = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 05 October 2016 - 07:46 AM

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I ended with 2.00" of rain over the past two days. I'm hoping to avoid a hard frost as my tomato plants are still producing! Here is the rainfall estimates over the area. Not all were as lucky, but if this was the beginning to the LRC it was a good start!

 

 

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 08:16 AM

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Funny we're now talking freezes when temps have rebounded over here like summer. I've noticed over the years that SMI will remain warm if there's a 'cane roaming the GOMEX or eastern seaboard. That tropical stuff will need to play out before we see chilly wx visiting mby in Marshall. Matthew looks to make an impact. Guys (Andrew, Hugo, Matthew) wanna rough up the EC, girls like the gulf coast it seems

I agree, Matthew is probably going to keep trying to push the ridge into our region as tropical systems like to "vent" into our area.



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Posted 05 October 2016 - 08:50 AM

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I ended with 2.00" of rain over the past two days. I'm hoping to avoid a hard frost as my tomato plants are still producing! Here is the rainfall estimates over the area. Not all were as lucky, but if this was the beginning to the LRC it was a good start!


That's awesome that you still have plants producing. Late August and September drought and heat made any that survived here so bitter they were nasty to eat.
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