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November 2016 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 05:55 PM

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Quite the drought in SE US. I recall Fall 2007 having a bad drought there and the SE ridge was pretty persistent all winter. I wonder if there is a correlation.


Honestly, despite being a torch, I'd take that winter again just because of how dynamic it was here. So many terrific windstorms, including a gust to 78mph in March, which is the highest I've ever measured in a winter event.
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Cold season 2017/18:
Snowfall: 0"
Largest snowfall: 0"
Number of winter events: 0
Coldest High 67*F
Coldest low: 44*F
Highest sustained wind: 17mph
Highest wind gust: 26mph

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:09 PM

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New ECMWF weekly control run depicts four separate Arctic outbreaks from late November into mid December. Fits with the earlier depiction from the ECMWF seasonal, with the big EPO/AO blocks in December.

4 for the nation as a whole, or directed into any particular region?

Into the PNW.

That would be epic.

 

Everything is coming together now. Our long journey is about a month away now, maybe even sooner. December 2008 was special but IMHO I believe this December can be even better.



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:22 PM

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I am going to echo SnowWiz here and say I hope we have a solid December and epic January!


Snowfall

2017-18: 0"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:24 PM

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I am going to echo SnowWiz here and say I hope we have a solid December and epic January!

 

Good to know!  

 

I thought you were hoping for torching through March and then lots of wet snow in April.   I will update my chart.   



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:41 PM

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I'm about ready to be done with the rain for a while.  The past week has been nothing but one over achieving rain event after another.  It's been fun trying to get a few last outdoor projects done with it being nearly dark when I get home from work and endless rain.  I think the payoff for this will be good though.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:42 PM

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I am going to echo SnowWiz here and say I hope we have a solid December and epic January!

 

That is how many of our best winters go.  A minor to moderate event or two in December and then the mother lode Jan / early Feb.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:50 PM

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Good to know!  

 

I thought you were hoping for torching through March and then lots of wet snow in April.   I will update my chart.   

 

The CFS tonight leaves much to be desired.


Snowfall

2017-18: 0"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:53 PM

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I'm about ready to be done with the rain for a while.  The past week has been nothing but one over achieving rain event after another.  It's been fun trying to get a few last outdoor projects done with it being nearly dark when I get home from work and endless rain.  I think the payoff for this will be good though.

 

Thursday and Friday look great in the afternoon... wet weekend though.



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:55 PM

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Some October departures from normal:

 

SEA  +2.0

WFO SEA +2.1

OLM  +2.2

BLI  +3.2

huh.  Shawnigan Lake was 0.0 through the 30th.  Perfectly normal. 



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 08:04 PM

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Good job WRF... once again proving your model superiority.    Its dumping rain here now.      ECMWF just absolutely owns the WRF on surface details.

 

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At least the 12Z ECMWF said it would be raining this evening.

 

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Over 0.3" already here in Victoria, the bands seem to be targeting the Saanich Peninsula this evening; leaching all the nutrients from the load of soil I just had delivered.



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 08:11 PM

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Is the record low for today's date in Seattle really 0 degrees in 1939? That seems really early for temps like that.

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 08:13 PM

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Over 0.3" already here in Victoria, the bands seem to be targeting the Saanich Peninsula this evening; leaching all the nutrients from the load of soil I just had delivered.

 

 

Crap... did not host WRF image and now it updated and shows tomorrow morning and looks better in context.

 

I updated my original post now.   Here was the 12Z WRF image for this evening.   ECMWF was much better as usual.  

 

 

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 08:19 PM

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Is the record low for today's date in Seattle really 0 degrees in 1939? That seems really early for temps like that.

I don't think so. Wasn't the 0 back in Jan 1950 as an all time low?

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 08:23 PM

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Is the record low for today's date in Seattle really 0 degrees in 1939? That seems really early for temps like that.

Their all-time record low is 0 in January 1950, though there may have been a colder reading in the 19th century (wxstatman or Snow Wizard would know). The record low for today is 27.



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 08:25 PM

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The CFS tonight leaves much to be desired.


Good thing it sucks! :lol:

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 08:32 PM

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Good thing it sucks! :lol:

I don't even know why money is wasted on that model...completely worthless with its Wild changes from day to day!
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Posted 01 November 2016 - 08:54 PM

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Their all-time record low is 0 in January 1950, though there may have been a colder reading in the 19th century (wxstatman or Snow Wizard would know). The record low for today is 27.

 

As far as I know, there is no official record from the city of Seattle colder than the 0 in 1950. The city records only go back to 1894, I believe.

 

Of course, nearby areas have gotten colder. Kent reached -10 in 1950, as did Bothell. 


Cool anomalies soothe the soul.


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 09:06 PM

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As far as I know, there is no official record from the city of Seattle colder than the 0 in 1950. The city records only go back to 1894, I believe.

 

Of course, nearby areas have gotten colder. Kent reached -10 in 1950, as did Bothell. 

 

I have seen a number something like -6 for Seattle in 1861-62.  Far from official data though.  The P-I  paper mentioned it dropped below zero in North Seattle in Jan 1893.

 

BTW there are some semi official records for Seattle for part of 1890 through 1893 which I have.  It dropped to 3 in the city in 1893.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 09:09 PM

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I don't even know why money is wasted on that model...completely worthless with its Wild changes from day to day!

 

You have to use an average of many runs with that model.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 09:21 PM

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huh.  Shawnigan Lake was 0.0 through the 30th.  Perfectly normal. 

 

+1.4F at Abbotsford.

 

I find the BLI number surprising.



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 09:28 PM

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Looks like we could see a high in the 50s by next Monday. Will definitely feel like fall!

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 09:31 PM

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Their all-time record low is 0 in January 1950, though there may have been a colder reading in the 19th century (wxstatman or Snow Wizard would know). The record low for today is 27.


Ah Komo 4 just updated their site with a record low of 30 in 2003. Earlier today they had 0 in1939 as the record low today but it must have been a typo.

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 09:32 PM

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As far as I know, there is no official record from the city of Seattle colder than the 0 in 1950. The city records only go back to 1894, I believe.

 

Of course, nearby areas have gotten colder. Kent reached -10 in 1950, as did Bothell. 

Yeah, I've only seen records back to 1894. I thought there might have been some older readings not easily available online or something.

 

The GFS is showing SW flow as far as the eye can see... ugh. At least we'll get some drier and sunnier weather out of it. Hopefully Jim's warm November = epic January theory comes true.



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 09:39 PM

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Looks wet up here in the next couple weeks. Back to business as usual... 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 09:44 PM

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As far as I know, there is no official record from the city of Seattle colder than the 0 in 1950. The city records only go back to 1894, I believe.

Of course, nearby areas have gotten colder. Kent reached -10 in 1950, as did Bothell.


Woodland Park unofficially hit -5 on 1/31/1893. That is the coldest Seattle temp that I know of.

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 09:58 PM

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+1.4F at Abbotsford.

 

I find the BLI number surprising.

 

I'm betting it was due to strong S to SE wind episodes.  That seems to torch them much worse than northern Whatcom County or SW BC.


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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 10:00 PM

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Woodland Park unofficially hit -5 on 1/31/1893. That is the coldest Seattle temp that I know of.

 

I think one of the founding fathers of Seattle recorded that reading and he was noted for being a very precise person.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 10:04 PM

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Yeah, I've only seen records back to 1894. I thought there might have been some older readings not easily available online or something.

 

The GFS is showing SW flow as far as the eye can see... ugh. At least we'll get some drier and sunnier weather out of it. Hopefully Jim's warm November = epic January theory comes true.

 

I'm not sure why those 1890 to 1893 records are so hard to come by.  I have managed to piece most of it together from a number of different sources.  Too bad the records began later in 1890 so it doesn't include the amazing Jan - Feb 1890.  I do have the Port Blakely (Bainbridge Island) records for that though.  All in all the 1887 through 1893 was utterly orgasmic for huge winters or at least huge winter months.


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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 10:10 PM

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The GFS tries to flip the PNA after day 10, but ensemble support looks pretty weak.  I'm betting we get another good round of soaking rains this month and probably a windstorm threat or two along with some serious torching at times before we cool off a bit later on.


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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 10:11 PM

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The sun appears ready to go into a deep sleep.  Very low flux numbers almost no spots and very few flares for a quite a while now.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 10:14 PM

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The sun appears ready to go into a deep sleep. Very low flux numbers almost no spots and very few flares for a quite a while now.


Watch the solar wind/geomagnetic indices. At this stage of the solar cycle, that's where the potential for external perturbation will arise from. UV/TSI are already heading down fast.

Solar wind lags TSI/radiation fluxes by a few years, and is probably (by far) the most influential factor on weather and climate, even more-so than UV.
Personal Weather Station, Live Stream on Wunderground: https://www.wundergr...BETHE62#history

Cold season 2017/18:
Snowfall: 0"
Largest snowfall: 0"
Number of winter events: 0
Coldest High 67*F
Coldest low: 44*F
Highest sustained wind: 17mph
Highest wind gust: 26mph

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 10:20 PM

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Pretty interesting how few recent years there have been on the CPC analogs lately.  Many of them are pre 1990. 


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 10:23 PM

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Pretty interesting how few recent years there have been on the CPC analogs lately. Many of them are pre 1990.


That 2001/02 analog freaks me out. So does 1974/75.
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Cold season 2017/18:
Snowfall: 0"
Largest snowfall: 0"
Number of winter events: 0
Coldest High 67*F
Coldest low: 44*F
Highest sustained wind: 17mph
Highest wind gust: 26mph

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 10:49 PM

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Mark Nelsen just posted a new Fox12 Blog Update giving his latest thoughts on what might, or might not occur this Winter. This one is very detailed and exceptional.
 

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:00 PM

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Mark Nelsen just posted a new Fox12 Blog Update giving his latest thoughts on what might, or might not occur this Winter. This one is very detailed and exceptional.



https://fox12weather...16/11/01/16248/


Nothing too earthshattering.

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:02 PM

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Mark Nelsen just posted a new Fox12 Blog Update giving his latest thoughts on what might, or might not occur this Winter. This one is very detailed and exceptional.

https://fox12weather...16/11/01/16248/


This graph depicting decadal snowfall shocks me. I had no idea how bad things have become out there. Almost a 90% decline in decadal snowfall since the 1870s?

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Cold season 2017/18:
Snowfall: 0"
Largest snowfall: 0"
Number of winter events: 0
Coldest High 67*F
Coldest low: 44*F
Highest sustained wind: 17mph
Highest wind gust: 26mph

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:02 PM

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Sounds like we may see some weather this winter.
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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:09 PM

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That 2001/02 analog freaks me out. So does 1974/75.

Both were very snowy winters here locally but without much arctic air. I would assume a lack of blocking.

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:10 PM

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Great Mark Nelsen blog post this evening. His money is on wet and mountain snow...lol

 

https://fox12weather...16/11/01/16248/


Snowfall

2017-18: 0"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:11 PM

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Great Mark Nelsen blog post this evening. His money is on wet and mountain snow...lol

 

https://fox12weather...16/11/01/16248/

 

Didn't see it had already been posted :)


Snowfall

2017-18: 0"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:20 PM

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Great Mark Nelsen blog post this evening. His money is on wet and mountain snow...lol

 

https://fox12weather...16/11/01/16248/

 

Actually the extreme wetness so early in the season argues for a blockier winter IMO.  Pretty unusual to maintain such a wet regime.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:21 PM

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00z ECMWF
A *possible* pattern change by day 9-10 may be emerging, at least on this run. Where the ridge is redeveloping further offshore sure makes me think of blocking perhaps by mid-November. If that comes to fruition then we look for any signs of retrogression.

 

OR, the ridge flattens and a powerful jet stream consolidates slamming into us with renewed rains, possible flooding, and wind storm threats. Either would be better than ridging overhead and building inversions, fog and a stagnant pattern.

 

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:22 PM

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Both were very snowy winters here locally but without much arctic air. I would assume a lack of blocking.

 

If I recall Feb 1975 was quite chilly up your way.  I remember being pretty shocked looking at the Clearbrook records for that month, because it was pretty much nothing down here.  We did have a big snow in Dec 1974 though.  2001-02 was a good winter from Everett northward, but nothing special down here.


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Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:25 PM

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Nothing too earthshattering.

Nah, but he finally did release somewhat of a Winter 'forecast' I guess. Higher risk of lowland snow/cold, but not a guarantee. I'll take those odds. Better chances of blocking too.

 

This graph depicting decadal snowfall shocks me. I had no idea how bad things have become out there. Almost a 90% decline in decadal snowfall since the 1870s?

snow_downtown.jpg

Yeah, it really declined rapidly. The 1980s really sucked.

 

Didn't see it had already been posted :)

No worries.



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:27 PM

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The snowfall graphic for Portland is pretty surprising to me.  It shows the 1980s being the lowest decade for snow.  Hard to believe considering how many Arctic blasts there were and how much snow occurred up this way.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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DJ Droppin

Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:29 PM

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The snowfall graphic for Portland is pretty surprising to me.  It shows the 1980s being the lowest decade for snow.  Hard to believe considering how many Arctic blasts there were and how much snow occurred up this way.

I was equally surprised by that.



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:31 PM

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This graph depicting decadal snowfall shocks me. I had no idea how bad things have become out there. Almost a 90% decline in decadal snowfall since the 1870s?

snow_downtown.jpg

 

A decent chance the 2010s could top the 2000s.  The beginning of an up trend?  No doubt the decline has been shocking.


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Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:33 PM

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The snowfall graphic for Portland is pretty surprising to me.  It shows the 1980s being the lowest decade for snow.  Hard to believe considering how many Arctic blasts there were and how much snow occurred up this way.

Downtown Portland has missing data for a lot of months in the 80s. PDX had 40" that decade.



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:33 PM

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I was equally surprised by that.

 

I presume they must have counted Jan 1980 as part of the 1970s...1979-80.  But then again that would mean Feb 1990 should have been part of the 80s.  It was MUCH snowier than that up here.


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Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.2"

Coldest Low = 26

Lows 32 or below = 8

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 4

 

 


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:34 PM

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The snowfall graphic for Portland is pretty surprising to me.  It shows the 1980s being the lowest decade for snow.  Hard to believe considering how many Arctic blasts there were and how much snow occurred up this way.

 

Most of our snow in the 1980s fell in the first ten days of the decade. It was all downhill after that, though 1984-85 and 1985-86 were good.