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Posted 24 December 2017 - 03:09 PM

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How can it be 74 degrees here when it is snowing in Portland and Seattle?



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Posted 24 December 2017 - 05:02 PM

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Todays' warming is partly due to cirrus deck staying north of us w/ a few 80's inland. Dew points are rising. It would be good to get some stratus for a change. 

 

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Posted 25 December 2017 - 09:29 AM

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High clouds are holding down the temperatures again this morning, just like they did on Saturday.

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Posted 25 December 2017 - 10:59 AM

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Merry Xmas from LA

 

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Posted 25 December 2017 - 06:44 PM

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Nondescript day; some high clouds/ light wind

 

71/ 50



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Posted 25 December 2017 - 08:25 PM

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Frigid morning, pleasant afternoon. Pretty typical weather for this time of the year.

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Posted 26 December 2017 - 08:20 AM

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NWS_LA 

"OF note...however...the EC does bring rain to most of the area
  Monday and Tuesday. It will be interesting to see what the mdls
  look like 24 hours from now."
 



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Posted 26 December 2017 - 11:24 AM

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Next week per European

 

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Posted 26 December 2017 - 11:45 AM

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Next week per European

 

That would be pretty amazing if it actually happened.



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Posted 26 December 2017 - 12:47 PM

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For the 3rd day of the last 4, thick high clouds have led to very cold mornings extending well towards noon.


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Posted 26 December 2017 - 05:40 PM

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For the 3rd day of the last 4, thick high clouds have led to very cold mornings extending well towards noon.


HAARP.

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 08:00 AM

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Sunset is 4:50 PM for the first day since November 11. Today's sunrise is 36 minutes later than November 11, however.

 

No thick high clouds today to delay morning heating.



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 09:26 AM

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GFS is not on board w/ EC for rain next week but hope is alive.

 

Tuesday: 69/ 51



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 09:31 AM

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GFS is not on board w/ EC for rain next week but hope is alive.

 

Tuesday: 69/ 51

 

The EC now drops the rain chances next week now. http://forecast.weat...on=1&glossary=1



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 10:17 AM

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The EC now drops the rain chances next week now. http://forecast.weat...on=1&glossary=1

 

12Z Euro isn't in yet



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 04:28 PM

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Hazy afternoon indicates that a marine inversion has formed.



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 05:06 PM

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it has been downright ugly here in Orange the last few days with a lot of smog / haze in the air. I can't even see the Santa Ana Mountains today, which are just a few miles east of here.

 

We need a pattern change badly, as I am getting tired of this ad-nauseum Atacama Desert like weather pattern that we have been in since the summer!



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 06:26 PM

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I wasn't aware of the haze until seeing a camera view of the Basin this afternoon. There has been enough offshore wind to keep the valleys/ inland areas clear w/ good visibilities. But the ridging and lack of cirrus made for a warm day; back in the 80's for a while. Per CPC, "the MJO mid-latitude response becomes more robust and would favor a pattern change during the second half of January". So we may wait for rain until later next month.

 

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:50 PM

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I wasn't aware of the haze until seeing a camera view of the Basin this afternoon. There has been enough offshore wind to keep the valleys/ inland areas clear w/ good visibilities. But the ridging and lack of cirrus made for a warm day; back in the 80's for a while. Per CPC, "the MJO mid-latitude response becomes more robust and would favor a pattern change during the second half of January". So we may wait for rain until later next month.

 

80/ 53

 

This is beginning to look a lot like 1962-63, which had fall just about as dry as this year. These two years have had the driest falls in Los Angeles, I believe. 1958-59 and 1975-76 were really dry and 1995-96 and 1999-2000 were dry to a lesser extent, but they were slightly wetter than these two years have been.


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 09:12 AM

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It was a warm/ windy night. At least we don't need to turn on the furnace much this winter.



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 09:59 AM

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Deep freeze new year

 

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:07 AM

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It was a warm/ windy night. At least we don't need to turn on the furnace much this winter.


You live in one of the areas most likely to get offshore winds. There is fog at the coast and the night was chilly.

I don't understand why people in California live in hilly areas, which are prone to wildfires and mudslides.

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:21 AM

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You live in one of the areas most likely to get offshore winds. There is fog at the coast and the night was chilly.

I don't understand why people in California live in hilly areas, which are prone to wildfires and mudslides.

 

Inversion is like a layered cake:

 

6AM

JOHN WAYNE AP  CLEAR     49  43  80 CALM      30.12R                 
LAGUNA BEACH     N/A     42  40  92 CALM      30.07R                 
LAKE FOREST FR   N/A     58  25  28 CALM      30.00R       



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 12:57 PM

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"In most of these regions, the scientists found that similar very dry events had occurred since the late 16th century. However, two of the state’s hardest hit regions—the San Joaquin Drainage and the South Coast Drainage—likely hadn’t seen a four-year period as dry since at least before 1571. “These two regions include the agriculturally important Central Valley and the densely populated greater Los Angeles and San Diego metropolitan areas,” said Dr. Wahl, “So, the social and economic impacts are of particular importance there.”

 

"California Dryness and Recovery Challenge Multi-Century Odds" https://www.ncei.noa...ti-century-odds



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 04:53 PM

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Just shy of 90F today in parts of SoCal [always interesting that the warmest afternoons can be where there were the coldest mornings]

 
WOODLAND HILLS : 88 / 41 / 0.00
LAKE ELSINORE : 89 / 41 / 0.00 /
RAMONA AIRPORT : 88 / 32 / 0.00 /



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 06:05 PM

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My dog took some rests in the shade today for my afternoon walk. We are off between Christmas and New Year's. Shorts and sandals weather is great in December, especially when the rest of the country is freezing.

Yes, I know we need the rain and I do get worried about the record dryness and high fire danger, but let it rain while I'm at work or during the night. I really do hope we get some significant rain soon.

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 06:25 PM

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I've been reading complaints about how foul the air is near the coast [ie. Long Beach] lately. Weak offshore winds are likely responsible. This photo of the sunset in Oceanside yesterday indicates high pollutant levels but makes for a beautiful sky nonetheless.

 

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 05:34 AM

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There could finally be a pattern change in California! Maybe next week could be the start of a new wet pattern.
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Posted 29 December 2017 - 09:10 AM

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Keeping fingers crossed ;)

 

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 11:39 AM

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These are mighty warm lows for winter:

 

Simi Valley : 82 / 68 / 0.00
Ventura : 76 / 69 / 0.00



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 12:04 PM

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It's quite hot today making the long December shadows look strange. New Jersey has cancelled their polar bear plunge events for New Year's Day because it will be so cold there.

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 01:02 PM

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Even after the wind calmed down. The Pasadena station is around 850' . San Rafael Hills near 1800'

6AM

PASADENA : 55 28 35 CALM
SAN RAFAEL HI : 71 14 11 CALM 

 

L: 61° 



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 02:42 PM

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Tree leaves look like mid November. Would not be surprised if some leaves remain until the first spring leaves come in.

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 04:31 PM

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Warmest day of the month and likely the last of this mini-winter heat wave for a while. Looking forward to some rain next week [I hope]

 

87/ 61



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 04:39 PM

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Please! We need the rain!!

 

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 04:41 PM

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Please! We need the rain!!

 

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I don't understand how it can be so warm and yet so wet in January, if CPC is correct.



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:28 PM

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I don't understand how it can be so warm and yet so wet in January, if CPC is correct.

 

Atmospheric rivers potentially?  Looks like significant rain is coming. 

 

http://forecast.weat...on=1&glossary=1

 


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Posted 29 December 2017 - 09:11 PM

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Looks like a hurricane

 

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 10:05 PM

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NWS San Diego is not adding any chances of rain for next week yet. Considering how some other predicted storms failed to materialize, it's not a surprise.



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 10:11 PM

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NWS San Diego is not adding any chances of rain for next week yet. Considering how some other predicted storms failed to materialize, it's not a surprise.

 

They are being very cautious, as they should be, in a very stingy season like this season has been.



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 10:13 PM

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I don't understand how it can be so warm and yet so wet in January, if CPC is correct.

 

Yeah, that temperature outlook screams ridge city as opposed to a stormier pattern that is being depicted in the precip portion of the outlook. I would think the predicted temperatures would be closer to normal as opposed to torch category.



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Posted 30 December 2017 - 08:46 AM

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They are being very cautious, as they should be, in a very stingy season like this season has been.

 

It is discouraging that the models flip and flop from run to run but at least the trend is for rain eventually reaching SoCal in January. I voted for rain in the 2nd week of Jan in Eujuanga's poll for whatever that is worth. :blink:  



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Posted 30 December 2017 - 09:38 AM

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When I moved into this location I planted palm trees native to Cuba and fragrant tropical flowers. This has been a very warm year starting in March but similar to the past several years.

 

 

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 04:27 PM

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Very hard to record freezing temperatures in coastal California and Florida

 

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 05:38 PM

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When I moved into this location I planted palm trees native to Cuba and fragrant tropical flowers. This has been a very warm year starting in March but similar to the past several years.

You have a lot of nice plants in your yard! I really enjoy tropical plants and tropical-themed landscapes. On the top photo, I see what appears to be a banana tree, with a dracaena next to or behind it along with several palms, and a healthy hibiscus in bloom in the bottom photo.



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Posted 30 December 2017 - 06:28 PM

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 10:17 PM

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You have a lot of nice plants in your yard! I really enjoy tropical plants and tropical-themed landscapes. On the top photo, I see what appears to be a banana tree, with a dracaena next to or behind it along with several palms, and a healthy hibiscus in bloom in the bottom photo.

 

Thanks Dan. You've identified some of the lower trees under Cuban Royal, foxtail, fishtail, pacaya palms, etc. I was active in a palm growers association but stick with trees that look good given the limitations of our climate. For example, coconut palms don't thrive/ produce here due to low humidity/ cool nights. The map of where freezing temps have yet to occur this year illustrates why palms are so popular here. Snowfall in south Texas and below freezing minimums along the Gulf Coast/ northern Florida would kill the palms in my yard. It can happen and did in 1949.

 

Photos were taken today and earlier in the week

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 10:49 PM

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Thanks Dan. You've identified some of the lower trees under Cuban Royal, foxtail, fishtail, pacaya palms, etc. I was active in a palm growers association but stick with trees that look good given the limitations of our climate. For example, coconut palms don't thrive/ produce here due to low humidity/ cool nights. The map of where freezing temps have yet to occur this year illustrates why palms are so popular here. Snowfall in south Texas and below freezing minimums along the Gulf Coast/ northern Florida would kill the palms in my yard. It can happen and did in 1949.

 

Photos were taken today and earlier in the week

 

It is amazing how many tropical looking plants that can grow in almost frost free locales of coastal Socal. Like you said, some tropicals don't grow well outdoors here due to cold nights and/or low humidity and besides the palms you mentioned, this category would include many orchid species, Anthuriums, and Crotons. However, spider plants, many dracaenas, Cordylines, and even Spathiphyllums and pothos will grow well outdoors in a patio environment.

 

Despite the cold snap in January 2007, I don't recall losing any tropical plants in my yard, because I think my area actually remained above freezing due to being on the top of a slight slope on one side and a drop on the other.



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Posted 31 December 2017 - 07:49 AM

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Last day of 2017 which started out nice and wet and ended up disappointingly dry. What will 2018 bring?



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Posted 31 December 2017 - 09:39 AM

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Signs of the dipole season. Stingray attacks in winter :wacko:

 

"156 Stingray Injuries Over 3 Days In Southern California" https://patch.com/ca...e-county-report