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#101
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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:19 AM

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Euro crushes southern wi 7-10

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:21 AM

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Euro crushes southern wi 7-10

How does it look overall???  Can you post a map?



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:22 AM

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How does it look overall???  Can you post a map?

Ill try to..


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#104
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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:22 AM

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On my phone but 4-5 for Chicago

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:24 AM

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On my phone but 4-5 for Chicago

Not bad, getting better every day...yesterday it was showing 3-4"...I'm assuming Lehs is showing up farther north across MKE??



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:25 AM

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Not bad, getting better every day...yesterday it was showing 3-4"...I'm assuming Lehs is showing up farther north across MKE??

Is it possible to post images that are not links??



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:27 AM

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Is it possible to post images that are not links??

Yes, you have to save it on your phone or comp and use the "more reply options" and upload it.  Or you can copy and paste it but if you use WxBell it wont work unless you save it then upload.



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:31 AM

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:34 AM

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Really high kuchera ratios pushing 20:1 around here



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:34 AM

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Wow, that is a lot of snow at 10:1 ratios

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:36 AM

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Never mind, thought that map was 10:1...

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:37 AM

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Never mind, thought that map was 10:1...

Lol I wish



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:39 AM

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So for 2nd day in a row, all models are showing a healthier system. Should get interesting.

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:42 AM

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Really high kuchera ratios pushing 20:1 around here


Wouldn't go that high but we should have decent ratios for sure

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:43 AM

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Wouldn't go that high but we should have decent ratios for sure

definelty could 



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:45 AM

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Did the Euro expand the snow on th EC inland?

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:46 AM

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God, this stupid winter needs to die already.  I finally begin to get excited about a nice snow to end the dreadful snow season, then the euro yanks it away again.  I can't believe the dang low may go right over us.  EVERY low this winter has gone over us.


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season snowfall: 3.4"

 

'17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:47 AM

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Did Euro stay same track as 0z?

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:56 AM

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Nice to see rising totals instead of dropping. If its cold let it snow.

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:00 AM

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God, this stupid winter needs to die already. I finally begin to get excited about a nice snow to end the dreadful snow season, then the euro yanks it away again. I can't believe the dang low may go right over us. EVERY low this winter has gone over us.


Let's see what the EPS shows today before getting to upset about this run.

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:13 AM

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The euro has been good all year

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:10 PM

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Let's see what the EPS shows today before getting to upset about this run.


Pretty much identical to the op

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:25 PM

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Quit teasing me. Lol
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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:26 PM

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Pretty much identical to the op

Yup, I'd say so...

 

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:30 PM

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Nam continuing the trend of stronger and a tad north out in the plains

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:34 PM

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Better moisture transport that feeds into the low...



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:35 PM

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Better moisture transport that feeds into the low...


Interesting how every run seems to be trending like this

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:37 PM

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12+ totals showing up in eastern SD with widespread 8-12 totals in western MN

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:42 PM

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On simulation radar, it almost has a nice hook showing up...



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:44 PM

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Big changes towards the end of the run...starts plugging into GOM moisture



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:47 PM

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Big changes towards the end of the run...starts plugging into GOM moisture

 

How would a stronger low towards IL/IN etc affect the east coast low as they approach? 



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:48 PM

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18z NAM...more snow this run in IA/WI compared to 12z...



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:49 PM

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How would a stronger low towards IL/IN etc affect the east coast low as they approach? 

It will pull the coastal low west as trough goes neg tilt...



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:50 PM

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It will pull the coastal low west as trough goes neg tilt...

 

Can that swing moisture back towards MI/IN etc? Kind of look like it does that. MI gets hit good. 


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:53 PM

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Can that swing moisture back towards MI/IN etc? Kind of look like it does that. MI gets hit good. 

It sure can.  At the end of the run you can see it and compare the low near the gulf coast over the last 4 runs and you can see it creeping farther north each run.  Also take a look at the PWAT anomalies as they are creeping higher.



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:53 PM

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Mkx going with 3-4"

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:54 PM

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18z NAM... 

 

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:01 PM

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18z NAM... 

 

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.75 QPF showing up in parts of W. WI 

 

Def. trending wetter each run.



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:04 PM

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LOT afternoon thoughts:

 

"early indications are for perhaps 3-6 inches north of I-80 and 1-4
inches south through daybreak Tuesday"

 



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:05 PM

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A met on another forum: (east coast) 

 

I'm most concerned about the northern stream interactions at this point. Because of parallax issues, satellite estimates tend to think northern stream waves are more shallow than actuality, especially that stuff coming out of the Arctic. We may see that trend stronger with time.  


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:07 PM

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Winterstorm watch issued for Rochester, MN and eastern parts of MN:

 

...ACCUMULATING SNOW TO IMPACT THE AREA LATER SUNDAY AFTERNOON
INTO MONDAY...
 
.Accumulating snow is expected to spread into the area Sunday
afternoon then continue Sunday night and Monday before tapering
off later Monday afternoon and evening.
 
Current indications are 5 to 7 inches of snow will fall across
much of southeast Minnesota and northeast Iowa. The heavier snow
looks to fall late Sunday afternoon into Monday morning, with
impacts to the Monday morning commuted expected.
 
Thus a winter storm watch has been issued for these areas from
late Sunday afternoon through Monday. As confidence increases,
the winter storm watch may need to be expanded into parts of
western and southwest Wisconsin.
 
While confidence is high that this storm will produce significant
amounts of snow, where that ultimately falls, and how much falls
remains somewhat uncertain. A small shift in the storm track or
its strength will have impacts on where the heaviest snow falls,
and how much.
 
Keep up on the latest forecasts and prepare now for this winter
storm...especially if you have travel plans later Sunday into
Monday.
 
IAZ008>011-018-019-029-030-MNZ079-086>088-094>096-110500-
/O.NEW.KARX.WS.A.0004.170312T2100Z-170314T0000Z/
Mitchell-Howard-Winneshiek-Allamakee-Floyd-Chickasaw-Fayette-
Clayton-Wabasha-Dodge-Olmsted-Winona-Mower-Fillmore-Houston-
Including the cities of Osage, Cresco, Decorah, Waukon,
Charles City, New Hampton, Oelwein, Elkader, Wabasha,
Dodge Center, Rochester, Winona, Austin, Preston, and Caledonia
253 PM CST Fri Mar 10 2017
 
...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
MONDAY EVENING...
 
The National Weather Service in La Crosse has issued a Winter
Storm Watch, which is in effect from Sunday afternoon through
Monday evening.
 
* THE HEAVIEST SNOWFALL is expected later Sunday afternoon
  through Monday morning.
 
* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS of 5 to 7 inches are likely, however snow
  amounts remain somewhat uncertain at this time.
 
* VISIBILITIES will be below a mile at times in the falling snow.
 
* Snow covered and slippery roads can be expected. The Monday
  morning commute will be impacted.


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:38 PM

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Watch issued for my county. DMX calling for "around 6 inches"


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:40 PM

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GFS coming in a bit weaker/south so far compared to 12z...



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:46 PM

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It's south/weaker in terms of pressure but looks like it has more QPF with it which is odd...



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:49 PM

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Hawkeye will be a little happier with this run...



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:51 PM

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Hawkeye will be a little happier with this run...

 

Looks like we got GEM/GFS vs NAM/UKIE/Euro  

 

Wonder which ones will win out



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 02:00 PM

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Judging from the watch placement by the offices it looks like they are siding with a north solution.



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 02:02 PM

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18z GFS...

 

 


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 02:03 PM

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DMX:
While there is high in a snowfall event across N/NE Iowa, details
amongst models, including timing and magnitude, not much clearer
with this issuance. While Euro/GFS/NAM/GEM continue to show
consistency in phasing waves and low development, track and timing
continue to vary to a degree. Euro has held strong with a more
northerly track through central Iowa, while GFS/NAM/GEM continue
with solutions across SW. With that in mind, hard to not hedge
toward Euro solution given track record of late. Current total
snowfall generally reflects that thinking. Also growing confidence
in a band of heavier snow developing with hints of strong
frontogenesis, though still too early to attempt nailing down a
location more specific than N/NE IA. DGZ depths appear to have
backed off a bit, but still around 3-4kft across much of the CWA.
While not substantial, tied in with cold profile ratios should
reside in the 12-15:1 neighborhood. Winter Storm Watch issued with
this package, with 6 inch or more totals going across N/NE
currently, but likely to turn into an winter weather advisory versus
winter storm warning as event approaches due to duration lasting 24-
36 hrs.
 



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 02:05 PM

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Love the 18z track. Ill take 6 and run!
‚ÄčNice LES feature continues to show up for you guys by the lake.