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#51
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 07:44 PM

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Hilarious stuff. The misspelling was irreverence on a level reserved for such comic icons like Dorothy Voinovich and the early works of Pierre Jenkinson.

 

Mispelling is cool. 



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Posted 01 July 2017 - 08:02 PM

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Mispelling is cool.


The fact PDX is running two degrees warmer compared to 24 hours ago is not.

All roads lead to Walgreens.  


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 08:07 PM

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Mispelling is cool.


Spelling ever as "evar" is a pretty common meme.

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 08:09 PM

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The fact PDX is running two degrees warmer compared to 24 hours ago is not.

 

No, it's really not. Any way you slice that. 



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Posted 01 July 2017 - 08:10 PM

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Spelling ever as "evar" is a pretty common meme.

 

Where? Haha



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Posted 01 July 2017 - 09:03 PM

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Models show a close call with the ULL in about 8 or 9 days but it just skirts by and the ridge rebounds.     The GFS, GEM, and the parallel GFS all show the same basic evolution for the next 10 days.  



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Posted 01 July 2017 - 09:12 PM

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Models show a close call with the ULL in about 8 or 9 days but it just skirts by and the ridge rebounds.     The GFS, GEM, and the parallel GFS all show the same basic evolution for the next 10 days.  

 

Thank God. It'd be a tragedy if we didn't have SW flow for a week straight.


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 09:31 PM

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Thank God. It'd be a tragedy if we didn't have SW flow for a week straight.

 

So tragic.  


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 09:58 PM

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Goldilocks weather for the holiday week this year.   2015 was too hot... and last year was a little too cool.   This year is just right.  

 

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 10:35 PM

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0z Euro looking a little warmer, further west with things later in the week.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 08:33 AM

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Models show a close call with the ULL in about 8 or 9 days but it just skirts by and the ridge rebounds.     The GFS, GEM, and the parallel GFS all show the same basic evolution for the next 10 days.  

 

Those same 3 models are much more aggressive on the 12Z runs with troughing later in the week.


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 09:33 AM

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Waiting on yesterday's data, but Shawnigan Lake looks around +1.1F.


Edit. June ended up +1.3F after a very warm 30th.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 09:44 AM

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Wall to wall sunshine today after a low of 47.

Snowfall

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 10:39 AM

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12Z ECMWF is way warmer for the rest of the week and through next weekend. Surface maps look hot.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 10:44 AM

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12Z ECMWF is way warmer for the rest of the week and through next weekend. Surface maps look hot.


Hopefully the Euro is just showing its usual mid range bias of digging things too far offshore.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 10:50 AM

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Hopefully the Euro is just showing its usual mid range bias of digging things too far offshore.


Could be... its been so erratic lately.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 11:06 AM

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Gonna be a warm and humid month. 2014 throwback.



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 11:36 AM

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Edit. June ended up +1.3F after a very warm 30th.

 

How about YYJ? Things are off to a warmer start today in this area, nearly up to 73F, which as warm as it got yesterday. I thought yesterday was going to be the warmest day of the weekend, but there was a bit too much marine air early on. 



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 12:06 PM

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Gonna be a warm and humid month. 2014 throwback.


Too soon to say yet.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 12:11 PM

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How about YYJ? Things are off to a warmer start today in this area, nearly up to 73F, which as warm as it got yesterday. I thought yesterday was going to be the warmest day of the weekend, but there was a bit too much marine air early on.

+0.9F. Quite a bit cooler than last June there.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 12:36 PM

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Gonna be a warm and humid month. 2014 throwback.

I might break down and buy an air conditioner. I don't mind the house being warm/ a little hot, but my wife and baby are getting whiny.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 12:36 PM

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Wow just looked at the Euro, definitely a hellishly warm run.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 12:39 PM

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Too soon to say yet.

 

Of course, I did that partially to trigger Phil. But if the Euro verified, we'd be well on our way.



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 12:47 PM

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I might break down and buy an air conditioner. I don't mind the house being warm/ a little hot, but my wife and baby are getting whiny.

Thanks for heating us up! :) 



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 12:53 PM

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No sub-80 days evar again!!!

Not as long as America continues to buy and use Air Conditioning like crazy contributing to most private energy use.



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 12:58 PM

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Touché.

Yeah, I meant persistent warmth driven by the true background system state, rather than an extratropical wavetrain in atrial fibrillation. Though there's something to be said about extratropical instabilities accelerating changes in the tropics, and visa versa.

And don't forget the tropical torque needs to go thru the -Y axis and later reverse thrust so it will align with the +X axis thermodynamics.  :) There's the scientific explanation of why we are having all this warmth transitioning to...............more warmth!



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:16 PM

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+0.9F. Quite a bit cooler than last June there.

 

Do you mean compared to June 2015? Last June was warmer than normal but not substantially more so than this June. It's too bad there aren't any long running stations with data closer to town. I've been noticing a lot more days like today where the airport ends up in a persistent cool sea breeze while areas further south end up in a warm bubble. Currently approaching 76F here while the airport is still around 67F.



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:24 PM

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Do you mean compared to June 2015? Last June was warmer than normal but not substantially more so than this June. It's too bad there aren't any long running stations with data closer to town. I've been noticing a lot more days like today where the airport ends up in a persistent cool sea breeze while areas further south end up in a warm bubble. Currently approaching 76F here while the airport is still around 67F.


It did end up 1.3F cooler than 2016, obviously 2015 was even much warmer than that.

Even a bit of an easterly sea breeze into Shawnigan Lake the last two days. Temp sitting around 73/ 74F.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:30 PM

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Wow just looked at then Euro, definitely a hellishly warm run.

 

I read that Hell's climate is moving further north.


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:36 PM

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And don't forget the tropical torque needs to go thru the -Y axis and later reverse thrust so it will align with the +X axis thermodynamics. :) There's the scientific explanation of why we are having all this warmth transitioning to...............more warmth!


If there's not, then we're all in big trouble.
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Posted 02 July 2017 - 02:16 PM

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Despite all this warmth, my Blueberries are still a few weeks away from being ready to start harvesting.



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 02:36 PM

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Despite all this warmth, my Blueberries are still a few weeks away from being ready to start harvesting.

Sounds about normal for blueberries, No?

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 02:38 PM

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I read that Hell's climate is moving further north.


So it would seem.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:57 PM

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Fortunately the 18z and ensembles look much cooler than the Euro.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 05:27 PM

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First 90-free July since the last 90-free July?

All roads lead to Walgreens.  


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 05:44 PM

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It did end up 1.3F cooler than 2016, obviously 2015 was even much warmer than that.

Even a bit of an easterly sea breeze into Shawnigan Lake the last two days. Temp sitting around 73/ 74F.

 

Yeah, I suppose 2015 was so much of an outlier that it just didn't feel that warm in comparison but it certainly seems to have been a warm month; 2015 would have been a warm month for July.



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 09:15 PM

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Sounds about normal for blueberries, No?

Maybe just barely.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 12:16 AM

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00z runs said "Where's the beef!?"



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 06:55 AM

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It is or was raining at my house for at least a while.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 09:30 AM

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It is or was raining at my house for at least a while.

 

Are you sure it wasn't just a heavy dew? There hasn't been any measureable rain in this area in the past 13 days, and from the looks of the forecast it could be a long while before we see any to come.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 09:31 AM

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Are you sure it wasn't just a heavy dew? There hasn't been any measureable rain in this area in the past 13 days, and from the looks of the forecast it could be a long while before we see any to come.

 

 

Your area is MUCH drier on average than his area.  



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 09:36 AM

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Are you sure it wasn't just a heavy dew? There hasn't been any measureable rain in this area in the past 13 days, and from the looks of the forecast it could be a long while before we see any to come.

It was physically raining when I walked outside. I only worded it like that because I couldn't tell if it was still raining when I posted that post.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 10:01 AM

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Your area is MUCH drier on average than his area.  

 

Sure, this area receives about half the annual rain that area does, but the difference is much less noticeable in the summer. Abbotsford airport is also sitting at 13 days without measureable precipitation. Regardless, any rain this morning must be of the very light / misty variety, there isn't much happening on the radar and no major stations have reported rain.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 10:03 AM

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Sure, this area receives about half the annual rain that area does, but the difference is much less noticeable in the summer. Abbotsford airport is also sitting at 13 days without measureable precipitation. Regardless, any rain this morning must be of the very light / misty variety, there isn't much happening on the radar and no major stations have reported rain.

 

He never said it was heavy and widespread.   But his area is prone to upslope drizzle in marine layer situations like this morning and your area is not.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 10:10 AM

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He never said it was heavy and widespread.   But his area is prone to upslope drizzle in marine layer situations like this morning and your area is not.

 

It's sunny and 66F here this morning, a perfectly normal summer morning, what's this marine layer you speak of?  :huh: 



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 10:15 AM

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It's sunny and 66F here this morning, a perfectly normal summer morning, what's this marine layer you speak of? :huh:


Weather conditions aren't exactly the same every where else as they are at your house.
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Posted 03 July 2017 - 10:20 AM

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It's sunny and 66F here this morning, a perfectly normal summer morning, what's this marine layer you speak of?  :huh:

Everything is clouded over my house right this second. I recorded 0.015 inches of rain today.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 10:34 AM

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Everything is clouded over my house right this second. I recorded 0.015 inches of rain today.

 

There does seem to be a lot of marine stratus to the north of here, while the sky to the south is completely clear. This area is a lot less susceptible to marine stratus, there's nothing for it to pile against in the prevailing winds. The east side of Vancouver Island is pretty good at kicking the stratus at this time of year as well, looking nice at Rathtrevor today:

 

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 10:36 AM

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There does seem to be a lot of marine stratus to the north of here, while the sky to the south is completely clear. This area is a lot less susceptible to marine stratus, there's nothing for it to pile against in the prevailing winds. The east side of Vancouver Island is pretty good at kicking the stratus at this time of year as well, looking nice at Rathtrevor today:

 

current.jpg

 

 

Drought is much worse than I thought up there.   Even the ocean has dried up and disappeared!  


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 10:37 AM

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12Z ECMWF is going all troughy on us in a week.   


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