July 2017 PNW Discussion Thread

[stuffradio]

Despite all this warmth, my Blueberries are still a few weeks away from being ready to start harvesting.

[ShawniganLake]

Despite all this warmth, my Blueberries are still a few weeks away from being ready to start harvesting.

Sounds about normal for blueberries, No?

[Jesse]

I read that Hell's climate is moving further north.

So it would seem.

[Jesse]

Fortunately the 18z and ensembles look much cooler than the Euro.

[Deweydog]

First 90-free July since the last 90-free July?

[VancouverIslandSouth]

It did end up 1.3F cooler than 2016, obviously 2015 was even much warmer than that.

 

Even a bit of an easterly sea breeze into Shawnigan Lake the last two days. Temp sitting around 73/ 74F.

 

Yeah, I suppose 2015 was so much of an outlier that it just didn't feel that warm in comparison but it certainly seems to have been a warm month; 2015 would have been a warm month for July.

[stuffradio]

Sounds about normal for blueberries, No?

Maybe just barely.

[BLI snowman]

00z runs said "Where's the beef!?"

[stuffradio]

It is or was raining at my house for at least a while.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

It is or was raining at my house for at least a while.

 

Are you sure it wasn't just a heavy dew? There hasn't been any measureable rain in this area in the past 13 days, and from the looks of the forecast it could be a long while before we see any to come.

[TT-SEA]

Are you sure it wasn't just a heavy dew? There hasn't been any measureable rain in this area in the past 13 days, and from the looks of the forecast it could be a long while before we see any to come.

 

 

Your area is MUCH drier on average than his area.  

[stuffradio]

Are you sure it wasn't just a heavy dew? There hasn't been any measureable rain in this area in the past 13 days, and from the looks of the forecast it could be a long while before we see any to come.

It was physically raining when I walked outside. I only worded it like that because I couldn't tell if it was still raining when I posted that post.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Your area is MUCH drier on average than his area.  

 

Sure, this area receives about half the annual rain that area does, but the difference is much less noticeable in the summer. Abbotsford airport is also sitting at 13 days without measureable precipitation. Regardless, any rain this morning must be of the very light / misty variety, there isn't much happening on the radar and no major stations have reported rain.

[TT-SEA]

Sure, this area receives about half the annual rain that area does, but the difference is much less noticeable in the summer. Abbotsford airport is also sitting at 13 days without measureable precipitation. Regardless, any rain this morning must be of the very light / misty variety, there isn't much happening on the radar and no major stations have reported rain.

 

He never said it was heavy and widespread.   But his area is prone to upslope drizzle in marine layer situations like this morning and your area is not.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

He never said it was heavy and widespread.   But his area is prone to upslope drizzle in marine layer situations like this morning and your area is not.

 

It's sunny and 66F here this morning, a perfectly normal summer morning, what's this marine layer you speak of?   

[Jesse]

It's sunny and 66F here this morning, a perfectly normal summer morning, what's this marine layer you speak of?

Weather conditions aren't exactly the same every where else as they are at your house.

[stuffradio]

It's sunny and 66F here this morning, a perfectly normal summer morning, what's this marine layer you speak of? 

Everything is clouded over my house right this second. I recorded 0.015 inches of rain today.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Everything is clouded over my house right this second. I recorded 0.015 inches of rain today.

 

There does seem to be a lot of marine stratus to the north of here, while the sky to the south is completely clear. This area is a lot less susceptible to marine stratus, there's nothing for it to pile against in the prevailing winds. The east side of Vancouver Island is pretty good at kicking the stratus at this time of year as well, looking nice at Rathtrevor today:

 

http://webcam.beachacresresort.com/webcam/current.jpg

[TT-SEA]

There does seem to be a lot of marine stratus to the north of here, while the sky to the south is completely clear. This area is a lot less susceptible to marine stratus, there's nothing for it to pile against in the prevailing winds. The east side of Vancouver Island is pretty good at kicking the stratus at this time of year as well, looking nice at Rathtrevor today:

 

http://webcam.beachacresresort.com/webcam/current.jpg

 

 

Drought is much worse than I thought up there.   Even the ocean has dried up and disappeared!  

[TT-SEA]

12Z ECMWF is going all troughy on us in a week.   

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Drought is much worse than I thought up there.   Even the ocean has dried up and disappeared!  

 

It was a rough spring for drought and this summer hasn't been doing us any favors.

[Jesse]

12Z ECMWF is going all troughy on us in a week.

It's been strange to see the GFS leading the Euro lately.

[Jesse]

Wasn't a trough over the intermountain west part of a couple July forecasts? Looks like the complete opposite the next 7-10 days. Huge ridge over that region. Luckily we stay mostly on the periphery.

 

Could be a hot trip to Montana July 15-22 if this pattern keeps up.

[Geos]

Stubborn marine layer today. Had some light drizzle earlier this morning. Just now cracking 60

[ShawniganLake]

There does seem to be a lot of marine stratus to the north of here, while the sky to the south is completely clear. This area is a lot less susceptible to marine stratus, there's nothing for it to pile against in the prevailing winds. The east side of Vancouver Island is pretty good at kicking the stratus at this time of year as well, looking nice at Rathtrevor today:

 

http://webcam.beachacresresort.com/webcam/current.jpg

A bit of stratus here this morning but it cleared quickly.

 

Managed a high of 80F here late yesterday afternoon

[stuffradio]

It's finally mostly sunny now.

[luvssnow_spokane]

Drizzle here earlier and still cloudy... Troughy day. 

[TT-SEA]

Drizzle here earlier and still cloudy... Troughy day. 

 

Yeah... our area is the ultimate status trap for the region.   Where stratus goes to die and then stays even longer.

 

[Geos]

Getting some breaks now in the cloud deck. Fortunately today looks like the cloudiest day out of the whole week before the ridge builds in.

 

Paine Field are has cleared out nicely. Can see the stratus on the southern horizon.

 

[Jesse]

Yeah... our area is the ultimate status trap for the region. Where stratus goes to die and then stays even longer.

 

 

Been such an awful summer so far. Endless clouds and gloom.

[TT-SEA]

Been such an awful summer so far. Endless clouds and gloom.

 

That is not what I said.  

[TT-SEA]

Getting some breaks now in the cloud deck. Fortunately today looks like the cloudiest day out of the whole week before the ridge builds in.

 

Yeah... should be sunnier for the rest of the week.   

[VancouverIslandSouth]

A bit of stratus here this morning but it cleared quickly.

 

Managed a high of 80F here late yesterday afternoon

 

Made it up to 76F here yesterday. Sitting at about 70F now, not going to match yesterday's high from the looks of it. The readings at the airport were pretty unusual yesterday, looks like an ~8pm high there.

[Phil]

Verbatim, many of the 12z EPS members depict the coolest 850mb temperatures ever observed over the high Arctic in July since the start of ESRL reanalysis (1947) during week two.

 

Impressive.

[Deweydog]

Verbatim, many of the 12z EPS members depict the coolest 850mb temperatures ever observed over the high Arctic in July since the start of ESRL reanalysis (1947) during week two.

 

Impressive.

iceagenow.gov

[Phil]

iceagenow.gov

That all you've got?

[Deweydog]

That all you've got?

iceagealittlelater.gov?

[Phil]

iceagealittlelater.gov?

A little better.

[Deweydog]

A little better.

This summer had been just that compared to what I expected.

[Phil]

Yet another wavenumber 6+ pattern on the 18z GFS. We went over 9 years without a recurring W-6 until 2016.

 

We've since seen 24 days of W-6 since last July.