September 2017 PNW Discussion Thread

[luminen]

Hiked up Grouse Mountain today and I'm glad it wasn't any hotter than it was. The air was noticeably drier up there. Definitely gonna visit a few times this winter.

 

[Deweydog]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

 

Actually he brought up politics.

Well if he checks it out he'll find it's like time stood still.

 

#onenotetune

[TT-SEA]

Hiked up Grouse Mountain today and I'm glad it wasn't any hotter than it was. The air was noticeably drier up there. Definitely gonna visit a few times this winter.

 

Good visibility.

 

I assume that bear was caged?

[TT-SEA]

Well if he checks it out he'll find it's like time stood still.

 

#onenotetune

So we should make stuff up to change the topic?

 

In many ways... time has stood still on this forum for almost 13 years.

[luminen]

Good visibility.

 

I assume that bear was caged?

 

An electric fence cage yes. There were two in there.

[Deweydog]

So we should make stuff up to change the topic?

 

In many ways... time has stood still on this forum for almost 13 years.

Pretty much everyone wants it to rain right now. Pretty much no one did when he left.

[snow_wizard]

Bogged down in politics?    You mean watching TV and InfoWars with the batshit crazy Alex Jones?    

 

It was a goldilocks summer up here... except for the first part of August.   July was absolute perfection from start to finish.  

 

Alex Jones has some really good sources though.

 

I agree about this summer.  Pretty darn nice.  A bit too dry, but I really like dry weather in the summer.

[wx_statman]

Alex Jones has some really good sources though.

 

I agree about this summer.  Pretty darn nice.  A bit too dry, but I really like dry weather in the summer.

 

The guy is full of sh*t.

 

Welcome back!

[wx_statman]

WxBell images. Can't access the 12z meteogram now but the 18z is still just as crazy. Surprisingly it verified on the low side today.

 

Screen Shot 2017-09-02 at 6.41.51 PM.png

 

Looks unrealistic, to say the least.

 

This GFS numerical output looks more in line with reality:

 

http://68.226.77.253/text/1DegGFS/GFS_KPDX.txt

 

103 is plausible with surface east winds and 27.4C up above.

[wx_statman]

26.2C verified this afternoon over SLE with 595dm heights. Top tier ridge.

 

Enough to give us 97 on 9/2 despite steady NW winds during peak heating hours. I would need to double check, but I think this is the first time we've pulled off that particular feat in September.

[TT-SEA]

Alex Jones has some really good sources though.

 

I agree about this summer. Pretty darn nice. A bit too dry, but I really like dry weather in the summer.

 

Alex Jones is an act... and Trump actually believe his crap. Sandy Hook never happened right? Tell that to all those parents of kindergartners and first graders who were gunned down in school. I can't imagine. Alex Jones actually does not believe his own BS. But its scary that some people do.

 

I was thinking you were enjoying this summer given that you love dry weather in the warm season. One more significant rain event would have been nice. If not for the smoky/hot period during the first part of August... I would say its been pretty much perfect since the middle of May. A reward for our hellish spring.

 

I am liking our chances overall this winter with at least a weak Nina in place.

[wx_statman]

Alex Jones is an act... and Trump actually believe his crap. Sandy Hook never happened right? Tell that to all those parents of kindergartners and first graders who were gunned down in school. I can't imagine. Alex Jones actually does not believe his own BS. But its scary that some people do.

 

I was thinking you were enjoying this summer given that you love dry weather in the warm season. One more significant rain event would have been nice. If not for the smoky/hot period during the first part of August... I would say its been pretty much perfect since the middle of May. A reward for our hellish spring.

 

I am liking our chances overall this winter with at least a weak Nina in place.

 

He also made a big deal about the Jade Helm military exercise a couple years ago. Riled up a bunch of Texans into thinking that Obama was planning an invasion of Texas to take their guns away.

 

He's good at what he does. He feed people all the B.S. they want to hear and makes good $$ doing it.

[wx_statman]

Apparently the fire on Eagle Creek trail has really blown up. A friend of mine just sent me pictures from Bonneville Dam. Big smoke plume pretty close to I-84.

[wx_statman]

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/fire-sends-large-plume-of-smoke-in-air-in-columbia-river-gorge/470354816

 

It's apparently a new fire that began burning near the trail.

[TT-SEA]

Apparently the fire on Eagle Creek trail has really blown up. A friend of mine just sent me pictures from Bonneville Dam. Big smoke plume pretty close to I-84.

 

I saw that on the visible satellite loop.

[wx_statman]

I saw that on the visible satellite loop.

 

Just got this pic sent to me -

[wx_statman]

26.2C verified this afternoon over SLE with 595dm heights. Top tier ridge.

 

Enough to give us 97 on 9/2 despite steady NW winds during peak heating hours. I would need to double check, but I think this is the first time we've pulled off that particular feat in September.

 

Well, apparently PDX hit 98 earlier. Daily climate report shows a maximum of 98 occurred at 4:09 pm - weird that it didn't show up on the 4:53 ASOS update.

 

Regardless...98 degrees on a NW wind in September. Epic.

[TT-SEA]

65 today in DC.

 

Guess the sauna is turned off now for the next 9 - 10 months?

[High Desert Mat!]

Nice Fire. Campfire smell is nostalgic.

[High Desert Mat!]

It's funny how some people say that we couldn't deal with humidity, it's all relative and adaptable.

[wx_statman]

Another pic -

[Phil]

65 today in DC.

 

Guess the sauna is turned off now for the next 9 - 10 months?

Yeah, until winter, lol. The high of 61*F @ IAD today was the coldest this late in the season since 1972, right after hurricane Agnes. So this is pretty unusual for us. Since I returned home I think I've seen the sun twice.

[Phil]

It's funny how some people say that we couldn't deal with humidity, it's all relative and adaptable.

I'd love it if Seattle experienced a solid week with dewpoints in the upper 70s/low 80s, just to see the out-of-control reactions on this forum from Andrew, Jesse, and Jim.

[James Jones]

http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?parms=pacnorthwest-02-48-0

 

That is a ridiculous amount of smoke floating around. 

[High Desert Mat!]

I'd love it if Seattle experienced a solid week with dewpoints in the upper 70s/low 80s, just to see the out-of-control reactions on this forum from Andrew, Jesse, and Jim.

You're the best!!

[Jesse]

I'd love it if Seattle experienced a solid week with dewpoints in the upper 70s/low 80s, just to see the out-of-control reactions on this forum from Andrew, Jesse, and Jim.

I don't live in Seattle.

[TT-SEA]

Solid front next Sunday on the 00Z GFS and a bad situation of the coast of South Carolina.

 

[stuffradio]

It's okay, we probably won't live through another torchy summer anyways with uncle Kim Jong Un at the helm of North Korea, at least we won't be able to post about it on the internet anyways. He just caused a mag 6.3 "explosion" in North Korea according to the USGS.

[Kayla]

Looks unrealistic, to say the least.

 

This GFS numerical output looks more in line with reality:

 

http://68.226.77.253/text/1DegGFS/GFS_KPDX.txt

 

103 is plausible with surface east winds and 27.4C up above.

 

Oh yeah no doubt. 103-104 seems likely to me as well.

 

I think the difference between the above link and WxBells data is that the above one is just a temp grab at exactly 00z or 5pm local. While the WxBell site shows the maximum temp over the past 6 hour period. In other words, the WxBell graphic is picking up on a higher temp at say 4pm rather than 5pm where we are now quickly losing solar radiation after 4pm compared to earlier in the season.

[TT-SEA]

Winter has arrived before day 10 now... that should end this fire situation.  

 

[Phil]

Solid front next Sunday on the 00Z GFS and a bad situation of the coast of South Carolina.

 

Low pressure is probably overdone, but my goodness this is more power than 10X the entirety of NK's nuclear arsenal.

 

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Mobile%20Uploads/7C74F037-7A74-49F7-9D31-14417EC7E56B_zps02x1ycte.png

[Kayla]

Low pressure is probably overdone, but my goodness this is more power than 10X the entirety of NK's nuclear arsenal.

 

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Mobile%20Uploads/7C74F037-7A74-49F7-9D31-14417EC7E56B_zps02x1ycte.png

 

Strongest since Wilma??

[Deweydog]

887mb seems pretty low.

 

#breezy

#bringinthedeckchairs

[wx_statman]

Oh yeah no doubt. 103-104 seems likely to me as well.

 

I think the difference between the above link and WxBells data is that the above one is just a temp grab at exactly 00z or 5pm local. While the WxBell site shows the maximum temp over the past 6 hour period. In other words, the WxBell graphic is picking up on a higher temp at say 4pm rather than 5pm where we are now quickly losing solar radiation after 4pm compared to earlier in the season.

 

Well, I was aware that the link I provided only showed the 0Z temperature (except that I was thinking it was 4pm, but yeah during daylight savings time its actually 5pm). That is still very close to the time of day that our maximums occur at this time of year. An output of 103 for 5pm doesn't equate to a maximum of 108, not in our microclimate anyway.

 

Either way, even 103 is a real stretch. Something around 100 is more likely with locally higher readings.

[luminen]

Low pressure is probably overdone, but my goodness this is more power than 10X the entirety of NK's nuclear arsenal.

 

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Mobile%20Uploads/7C74F037-7A74-49F7-9D31-14417EC7E56B_zps02x1ycte.png

 

That looks bad.

[BLI snowman]

Euro decided to poop in the trough punchbowl. Agrees with the GFS about erasing North Carolina from existence though.

[Jesse]

Euro decided to poop in the trough punchbowl. Agrees with the GFS about erasing North Carolina from existence though.

There isn't going to be a significantly troughy period for at least another 3-4 weeks. Maybe longer.

[BLI snowman]

There isn't going to be a significantly troughy period for at least another 3-4 weeks. Maybe longer.

 

I was actually thinking that the next one may correspond with the next total solar eclipse here. Just food for thought.

[snow_wizard]

Very impressive 850mb temperature graph.  Insanely high followed by a big crash.  I hope the crash part verfies.

 

[Jesse]

Very impressive 850mb temperature graph. Insanely high followed by a big crash. I hope the crash part verifies.

 

It won't. Expect any hint of a troughy period to be fully dismembered by this time tomorrow. More heat until further notice.

 

Oh and welcome back Jim!!