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#101
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 05:38 PM

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How are we looking on that front? Same or has it changed in the last couple days?

 

We're looking really good.  In spite of the coming ridge being further east than I had hoped the offshore pressure and heights will be pretty high in the coming days.


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Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


#102
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 05:54 PM

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We're looking really good. In spite of the coming ridge being further east than I had hoped the offshore pressure and heights will be pretty high in the coming days.


Wasn't 49-50 a warm November then the ridge retrograded persistently from that point foreword numerous times?

Springfield, Oregon cold season 18-19 Stats:

Coldest high: 54 (Oct 5)
Coldest low: 35 (Oct 15)
Total snowfall: 0"
Last accumulating snowfall: February 21-22, 2018
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)
Last White Christmas: 1985

Personal Stats:

Last accumulating snowfall : March 6, 2017
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)
Last White Christmas: 2008

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 05:58 PM

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Wasn't 49-50 a warm November then the ridge retrograded persistently from that point foreword numerous times?

 

Yup.  After the warm November we had a windy and mixed December with frequent temperature swings and some snow and cold started to show up.  The mid December cold snap / snow was better than anything we see in some lame winters here, and it was just a tiny appetizer.  It's very interesting to note nearly all of the analogs I'm looking at had something in December even if it wasn't the big month of the winter.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


#104
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 06:14 PM

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http://www.oregon.go.../dlongrange.pdf

What do you think of the Oregon state climatologist's outlook? He seems adamant that it won't be as cold and snowy as last winter.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 18-19 Stats:

Coldest high: 54 (Oct 5)
Coldest low: 35 (Oct 15)
Total snowfall: 0"
Last accumulating snowfall: February 21-22, 2018
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)
Last White Christmas: 1985

Personal Stats:

Last accumulating snowfall : March 6, 2017
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)
Last White Christmas: 2008

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 06:21 PM

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http://www.oregon.go.../dlongrange.pdf

What do you think of the Oregon state climatologist's outlook? He seems adamant that it won't be as cold and snowy as last winter.

 

There is that 1996-97 popping up again... I feel like that winter is undersold as an analog here.


Cold Season 2018/19:

Total snowfall: 11.0"
Highest daily snowfall: 7.0"

Highest snow depth: 7.0"

Coldest high: 36.1º
Coldest low: 18.0º

Number of subzero days: 0

 

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 06:45 PM

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http://www.oregon.go.../dlongrange.pdf

What do you think of the Oregon state climatologist's outlook? He seems adamant that it won't be as cold and snowy as last winter.

 

I'm not as confident about OR, but up here I think this winter has a very good chance of being colder and snowier than last.  That is because last winter was better down there and I think this one might have a strong N to S gradient.  Being adamant it won't be colder there though....


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


#107
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 06:46 PM

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There is that 1996-97 popping up again... I feel like that winter is undersold as an analog here.

 

It's probably a legit analog.  A good match for solar and the preceding winter was a Nina, although 1996-97 was neutral.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


#108
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 06:50 PM

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It's probably a legit analog. A good match for solar and the preceding winter was a Nina, although 1996-97 was neutral.


The system state is more (inertially) primed for high latitude blocking this year when compared to years like 1996/97 and 2007/08, however both of those years were deeper into the solar wind minimum, so it's tough to say what will happen this year, in that regard.

At this point, the Ap Index (geoeffective solar wind) is the only solar parameter that really matters.
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 06:56 PM

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It's probably a legit analog.  A good match for solar and the preceding winter was a Nina, although 1996-97 was neutral.

 

Yeah. 96-97 was neutral cold and I'm honestly having a hard time seeing this year being much different. Uphill battle to see a -0.5 ONI for 3 consecutive months to qualify as a true Niña this season IMO.


Cold Season 2018/19:

Total snowfall: 11.0"
Highest daily snowfall: 7.0"

Highest snow depth: 7.0"

Coldest high: 36.1º
Coldest low: 18.0º

Number of subzero days: 0

 

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 06:56 PM

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I'm not as confident about OR, but up here I think this winter has a very good chance of being colder and snowier than last.  That is because last winter was better down there and I think this one might have a strong N to S gradient.  Being adamant it won't be colder there though....

 

Last winter was kind of weird in that it was better both to the north and south of the Puget Sound region. Usually it's one or the other.


Cool anomalies soothe the soul.


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:03 PM

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I'm not as confident about OR, but up here I think this winter has a very good chance of being colder and snowier than last. That is because last winter was better down there and I think this one might have a strong N to S gradient. Being adamant it won't be colder there though....

OLM northward will have an epic winter. I’m genuinely excited. Just feels like it is going to snow in November this year.

Plus prior to last season we have had quite a few duds since 2012
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:35 PM

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OLM northward will have an epic winter. I’m genuinely excited. Just feels like it is going to snow in November this year.

Plus prior to last season we have had quite a few duds since 2012


Really hope we don't miss out here in OR but the analogs sure favor WA getting a great winter while we will be cooler than normal but won't see much snow in the Willamette Valley.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 18-19 Stats:

Coldest high: 54 (Oct 5)
Coldest low: 35 (Oct 15)
Total snowfall: 0"
Last accumulating snowfall: February 21-22, 2018
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)
Last White Christmas: 1985

Personal Stats:

Last accumulating snowfall : March 6, 2017
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)
Last White Christmas: 2008

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#113
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:41 PM

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http://www.oregon.go.../dlongrange.pdf

What do you think of the Oregon state climatologist's outlook? He seems adamant that it won't be as cold and snowy as last winter.

 

I just noticed his analogs were entirely based on ENSO.  Pretty thin criteria.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


#114
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:42 PM

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Yeah. 96-97 was neutral cold and I'm honestly having a hard time seeing this year being much different. Uphill battle to see a -0.5 ONI for 3 consecutive months to qualify as a true Niña this season IMO.

 

I actually think a weaker Nina will serve us well.  With the -QBO a strong Nina would charge up the EPO.


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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


#115
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:45 PM

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Last winter was kind of weird in that it was better both to the north and south of the Puget Sound region. Usually it's one or the other.

 

That is a good point.  The moisture was the real culprit last winter.  We had our share of cold here.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


#116
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:46 PM

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OLM northward will have an epic winter. I’m genuinely excited. Just feels like it is going to snow in November this year.

Plus prior to last season we have had quite a few duds since 2012

 

This does look fantastic for us.  I would be surprised if we score in November, but you never know.  December, on the other hand, looks highly likely to have something good.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:55 PM

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I just noticed his analogs were entirely based on ENSO.  Pretty thin criteria.

 

I think there was more to it than that, as there were many similar ENSO years they didn't use. I'm guessing the late summer heat pattern was a factor, since both 1981 and 1967 had that as well.


Cool anomalies soothe the soul.


#118
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:48 PM

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I think there was more to it than that, as there were many similar ENSO years they didn't use. I'm guessing the late summer heat pattern was a factor, since both 1981 and 1967 had that as well.


I still feel like he weighs ENSO a bit too much but who knows?

Springfield, Oregon cold season 18-19 Stats:

Coldest high: 54 (Oct 5)
Coldest low: 35 (Oct 15)
Total snowfall: 0"
Last accumulating snowfall: February 21-22, 2018
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)
Last White Christmas: 1985

Personal Stats:

Last accumulating snowfall : March 6, 2017
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)
Last White Christmas: 2008

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#119
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:49 PM

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I think there was more to it than that, as there were many similar ENSO years they didn't use. I'm guessing the late summer heat pattern was a factor, since both 1981 and 1967 had that as well.

 

Good point.  Out of his analogs one was fabulous for the northern half of WA 1996-97, one had a good January event 1981-82, and one was decent for southern areas in particular 1967-68.  The interesting thing is none of those had the kind of positive anoms over the NE Pacific in October we are seeing this year.  The only one that might have had a big cold trough in October was 1996.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:53 PM

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What is our number for the month at now?

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 06:07 AM

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What is our number for the month at now?

 

The latest weekly number is -0.8C in the 3.4 region. The October number isn't in yet.


Cold Season 2018/19:

Total snowfall: 11.0"
Highest daily snowfall: 7.0"

Highest snow depth: 7.0"

Coldest high: 36.1º
Coldest low: 18.0º

Number of subzero days: 0

 

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 07:07 AM

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The latest weekly number is -0.8C in the 3.4 region. The October number isn't in yet.


I meant Snowwizard's NPI number :)
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Posted 25 October 2017 - 10:44 AM

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I meant Snowwizard's NPI number :)


Probably in the -5.5 range, at close.
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Posted 25 October 2017 - 07:23 PM

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Probably in the -5.5 range, at close.

 

Probably pretty close.  Going to be the highest of any October at least since 1948.  I'll give an updated month to date number shortly.

 

You probably meant +5.5.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 07:28 PM

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Probably pretty close. Going to be the highest of any October at least since 1948. I'll give an updated month to date number shortly.

You probably meant +5.5.


Yeah, oops. I'm guessing it finish around +5 to +5.5, just doing extrapolations in my head based on your definition of the index, though. So I could be off a bit.
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Posted 26 October 2017 - 12:06 AM

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Yup.  Sitting at +5.5 through the 23rd.  Looks like high pressure out there for the rest of the month so the monthly number should be over +5 pretty easily.


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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 12:51 AM

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Ha, what a lucky guess.
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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:18 PM

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That's pretty epic. What do November numbers correlate with for winter?



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:28 PM

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That's pretty epic. What do November numbers correlate with for winter?

 

It's not nearly as perfect a correlation as October, although very high ones often lead to good things in December.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 05:19 PM

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5.35 through the 25th.  Little question this month will blow away 1961 as the highest NPS October.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 05:33 PM

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5.35 through the 25th. Little question this month will blow away 1961 as the highest NPS October.


Perhaps it's too high to be useful this year.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 08:36 AM

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Perhaps it's too high to be useful this year.

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Hopefully not...sometimes things work that way though.  On the other hand it appears 1916 may have actually been as high and that was a solid winter.  One of those rare winters that had decent cold in every month.  While data from that far back needs to be taken with a small grain of salt, the observed weather in the NW certainly indicates October 1916 had persistent high pressure off the coast.


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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 28 October 2017 - 01:45 PM

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Hopefully not...sometimes things work that way though. On the other hand it appears 1916 may have actually been as high and that was a solid winter. One of those rare winters that had decent cold in every month. While data from that far back needs to be taken with a small grain of salt, the observed weather in the NW certainly indicates October 1916 had persistent high pressure off the coast.


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 03:39 PM

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5.35 through the 25th.  Little question this month will blow away 1961 as the highest NPS October.

 

What are we looking at as of today?


Finn Hill, elevation: 460 ft
2018 moisture: 27.16", 10/9

Lowest Temp of Autumn 2018: 36°, 10/03

 

2017-2018 winter snowfall total: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 05:38 PM

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What are we looking at as of today?

 

4.60 through the 28th, but the final three days will be big numbers.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 11:35 PM

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Looking at years that had a high NPS for Oct and Nov combined the picture is even more clear than with just a high October!  Looking at the 8 highest such years on record with neutral or cold ENSO we have the following.

 

1948 - Coldest winter on record for SEA, second coldest Jan

 

1956 - 11th coldest winter on record for Puget Sound Lowlands since 1895, third coldest Jan for SEA

 

1961 - Significant Arctic blast in Jan, historic late blast in Feb / early Mar

 

1971 - 3rd snowiest winter on record for SEA, major snowstorm and blast in late Jan, 17th coldest winter for Puget Sound since 1895

 

1978 - 7th coldest winter on record for Puget Sound since 1895, prolonged cold

 

1985 - Coldest Nov on record for SEA, coldest Nov / Dec combo in recorded history

 

1990 - Coldest Dec on record for SEA

 

2013 - Major blasts Dec and Feb, major snows in Oregon and SW WA

 

I think I have really stumbled onto something here.  Amazing correlation!


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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 11:54 PM

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Looking at years that had a high NPS for Oct and Nov combined the picture is even more clear than with just a high October! Looking at the 8 highest such years on record with neutral or cold ENSO we have the following.

1948 - Coldest winter on record for SEA, second coldest Jan

1956 - 11th coldest winter on record for SEA, third coldest Jan

1961 - Significant Arctic blast in Jan, historic late blast in Feb / early Mar

1971 - 3rd snowiest winter on record for SEA, major snowstorm and blast in late Jan, 17th coldest winter for SEA

1978 - 7th coldest winter on record for SEA, prolonged cold

1985 - Coldest Nov on record for SEA

1990 - Coldest Dec on record for SEA

2013 - Major blasts Dec and Feb, major snows in Oregon and SW WA

I think I have really stumbled onto something here. Amazing correlation!

Wow. You are really going all in on this coming winter.

Just to tie together a couple of your posts tonight. Last December was indeed pretty cold for northern regions, despite no major blast. Shawnigan lake recorded the same monthly mean in December 2016 as we did in Dec 1990

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 12:20 AM

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Wow. You are really going all in on this coming winter.

Just to tie together a couple of your posts tonight. Last December was indeed pretty cold for northern regions, despite no major blast. Shawnigan lake recorded the same monthly mean in December 2016 as we did in Dec 1990

 

Wow!  I didn't realize that.  The winter was solid here, but not outstanding.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2018-19 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 


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Posted 31 October 2017 - 07:29 AM

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Looking at years that had a high NPS for Oct and Nov combined the picture is even more clear than with just a high October! Looking at the 8 highest such years on record with neutral or cold ENSO we have the following.

1948 - Coldest winter on record for SEA, second coldest Jan

1956 - 11th coldest winter on record for SEA, third coldest Jan

1961 - Significant Arctic blast in Jan, historic late blast in Feb / early Mar

1971 - 3rd snowiest winter on record for SEA, major snowstorm and blast in late Jan, 17th coldest winter for SEA

1978 - 7th coldest winter on record for SEA, prolonged cold

1985 - Coldest Nov on record for SEA, coldest Nov / Dec combo in recorded history

1990 - Coldest Dec on record for SEA

2013 - Major blasts Dec and Feb, major snows in Oregon and SW WA

I think I have really stumbled onto something here. Amazing correlation!


Interesting how only one of those years was -QBO. Though we still technically have westerlies @ 50mb right now, so that's still playing on the NPAC High (for now).

These westerlies will reverse to easterlies at some point this winter, so when that happens, I suspect this +QBO-esque circulation will change.
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Posted 31 October 2017 - 08:06 AM

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Interesting how only one of those years was -QBO. Though we still technically have westerlies @ 50mb right now, so that's still playing on the NPAC High (for now).

These westerlies will reverse to easterlies at some point this winter, so when that happens, I suspect this +QBO-esque circulation will change.

 

Interesting point about westerlies at 50mb right now. Looking back, the last time we transitioned from westerlies to easterlies at 50mb in November (with -ENSO) was back in 1981-82. Winters like 2007-08 were solidly -QBO at both 50mb and 30mb by this point in the cold season. 

 

Looking at all -ENSO/-QBO seasons since 1953, where the -QBO transition at 50mb held off until November:

 

1981-82

1962-63

 

There's 1962 again! 


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Posted 31 October 2017 - 08:19 AM

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Interesting point about westerlies at 50mb right now. Looking back, the last time we transitioned from westerlies to easterlies at 50mb in November (with -ENSO) was back in 1981-82. Winters like 2007-08 were solidly -QBO at both 50mb and 30mb by this point in the cold season.

Looking at all -ENSO/-QBO seasons since 1953, where the -QBO transition at 50mb held off until November:

1981-82
1962-63

There's 1962 again!

Eww. ‘62. One of the worst snow years in history up here.

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 08:29 AM

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Interesting point about westerlies at 50mb right now. Looking back, the last time we transitioned from westerlies to easterlies at 50mb in November (with -ENSO) was back in 1981-82. Winters like 2007-08 were solidly -QBO at both 50mb and 30mb by this point in the cold season.

Looking at all -ENSO/-QBO seasons since 1953, where the -QBO transition at 50mb held off until November:

1981-82
1962-63

There's 1962 again!


Yup, definitely popping up a lot lately. Only big difference is, the IO flipped into a raging negative phase that year. Unless we can do the same this year, I wonder if we don't just flip into a 2007/08 type pattern this time. I hope not, but, ya know..lol.
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Eww. ‘62. One of the worst snow years in history up here.

 

Great winter for blocking and cold weather across the N. Hemisphere though, including the US. 


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Yup, definitely popping up a lot lately. Only big difference is, the IO flipped into a raging negative phase that year. Unless we can do the same this year, I wonder if we don't just flip into a 2007/08 type pattern this time. I hope not, but, ya know..lol.

 

I definitely don't expect a 1962-63 repeat, regardless of where all the indices line up. Hard to analog for such an outlier! 



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I definitely don't expect a 1962-63 repeat, regardless of where all the indices line up. Hard to analog for such an outlier!


Yeah, that was a weird year. Subject to plenty of research.

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A nice, happy medium between 1962-63 and 2007-08 would probably make a lot of people happy.

 

I'm with Jim!

 

ALL IN


Cool anomalies soothe the soul.


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A nice, happy medium between 1962-63 and 2007-08 would probably make a lot of people happy.

 

I'm with Jim!

 

ALL IN

 

We need 60% to pass this into law and force nature follow our instructions.  Get on board people.   Jim could start attacking naysayers on Twitter soon... very effective!  


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Eww. ‘62. One of the worst snow years in history up here.

 

Was it just cold up there? Or high and dry?


Finn Hill, elevation: 460 ft
2018 moisture: 27.16", 10/9

Lowest Temp of Autumn 2018: 36°, 10/03

 

2017-2018 winter snowfall total: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Starting to think this winter might require a full on meltdown in order to get cold and snowy.

All roads lead to Walgreens.  


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Was it just cold up there? Or high and dry?

November December and February were warm and snowless. January was cold and dry.