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Winter 2007/08 oddity so close yet so far.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 04:56 AM

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How much snow did you get that winter as a lot of places it was marginal yet so close to being a historic pattern.  The foothills got buried with several feet that winter where it seemed to never stop.  I recall the snow levels literally being STUCK at 500 feet in Oregon and I have never seen such a consistent snow line. 

 

It's almost like one of those jokes where if your house geography was sloped your driveway would have nothing but your roof and treetops would get plastered.

 

Was it because it wasn't quite a La Nina?  Would that have made a difference in shift and are we looking at something similar or do you think it was something else.   What were the indexes that winter?

 

For this winter do you think the snow will be more widespread this winter when it does happen where lots of places get fairly equal amounts?



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:44 AM

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2007-08 was a decent nina.

Broad scale indicators aren't going to give you the information you need in a borderline maritime climate. The devil's in the details.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:52 AM

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It was caused by the ridging over the NE Pacific being anchored slightly too far south.  If the positive anomaly had been centered 200 miles further north we would have gotten crushed.  That was a very frustrating winter.


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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.5"

Coldest Low = 25

Lows 32 or below = 27

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 15

 

 


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 11:06 AM

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CRUSHED!!!

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 12:07 PM

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Mid April was fun at least.



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 12:07 PM

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Mid April was fun at least.

 

Hell, mid June was pretty epic as well.


Cool anomalies soothe the soul.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 12:22 PM

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My favorite event of that winter was in early-mid July.
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Posted 19 November 2017 - 02:16 PM

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It was caused by the ridging over the NE Pacific being anchored slightly too far south. If the positive anomaly had been centered 200 miles further north we would have gotten crushed. That was a very frustrating winter.


Made up for it the year after. My fav winter since moving here in 1989. Tho 13-14 was good, I still prefer the widespread, regional events where we all get the good stuff.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 02:42 PM

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Made up for it the year after. My fav winter since moving here in 1989. Tho 13-14 was good, I still prefer the widespread, regional events where we all get the good stuff.


How old are you?

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 02:49 PM

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How old are you?


I'd like to see my age in inches of snow for the winter

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 02:55 PM

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I'd like to see my age in inches of snow for the winter

So 12?



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 03:12 PM

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I'd like to see my age in inches of snow for the winter


A solid foot would be nice.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 05:00 PM

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Mid April was fun at least.

 

We had snow here in late March also.


Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2017-18 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.5"

Coldest Low = 25

Lows 32 or below = 27

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows Below 20 = 0

Highs 40 or below = 15

 

 


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 05:43 PM

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What would it have been like in the 50s that style?



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:55 PM

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What would it have been like in the 50s that style?


The cold rain would have been a lot more racist.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:00 PM

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The cold rain would have been a lot more racist.


Not in Covington!

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:17 PM

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Not in Covington!


Eeeeeeeeyouch!

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:25 PM

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Silver Falls had 47.5" January 28-31, 2008.


Snowfall

2017-18: 0.8"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

 

 


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:29 PM

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Stole this pic off my brothers facebook page from the January 2008 snow event in Eugene. Looks like several inches on the UO campus. 

 

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Snowfall

2017-18: 0.8"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

 

 


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Posted 20 November 2017 - 01:42 PM

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I measured about 70" or so that winter in Provo Utah. I bet where I live now had at least 100" that winter. 


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Winter 2017/2018

Dec 4: 3.2", 16: 0.9", 20: 2.1", 23: 1.5", 25: 4.6"

Jan 6: 1.5"

Total: 13.8"

 

 

Winter 2016/17 Snow:
Nov 17: 3.2", 23: 1.6", 28: 9.2" (14)

Dec 1: .5", 16: 2.5", 25: 13" (16)

Jan 2: 5", 3: 2.4", 4: 7.7", 12: 1", 19: 1.2", 21: 13", 23: 6", 24: 1", 25: 3.7", 26: 2.5" (43.5) 

Feb 11: .5", 23: 6.5", 27: 4.5" (13.5)

Mar 5: 5.5" (5.5)

Apr 8: 2", 9: 1.8" (3.8)

May 17: 1" (1)
Total: 96.3"

Lowest Temp: 2F


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Posted 20 November 2017 - 02:09 PM

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Stole this pic off my brothers facebook page from the January 2008 snow event in Eugene. Looks like several inches on the UO campus.

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Your brother looks like a hippie version of you.

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 07:34 PM

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Your brother looks like a hippie version of you.

 

He is a handsome guy.


Snowfall

2017-18: 0.8"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

 

 


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Posted 20 November 2017 - 09:28 PM

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I remember standing in that Eugene snowstorm waiting at Freddy's to buy a Wii. Driving home was fun. Was the only winter weather we had in the valley that year.



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Posted 20 November 2017 - 09:40 PM

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I remember standing in that Eugene snowstorm waiting at Freddy's to buy a Wii. Driving home was fun. Was the only winter weather we had in the valley that year.


How old are you?

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 10:33 PM

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How old are you?

 

Well he was driving 10 years ago, so that says at least 26. But he/she also mentions 1989, so they 28, but seems like they remember it so 30+ seems like a ballpark.


Snowfall

2017-18: 0.8"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

 

 


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 12:51 PM

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What would this pattern have been like in the 1950s? Would we have scored big for the low spots you think due to less warming of the earth or is not not far enough back to make a dime of a difference?



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Posted 21 November 2017 - 12:54 PM

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What would this pattern have been like in the 1950s? Would we have scored big for the low spots you think due to less warming of the earth or is not not far enough back to make a dime of a difference?


You're asking an unanswerable question. 2007-08 didn't happen in the 1950's. It happened in 2007-08.

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 08:14 AM

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You're asking an unanswerable question. 2007-08 didn't happen in the 1950's. It happened in 2007-08.

 

I would say the results would have probably been about the same, maybe 1-2 minor snow events at PDX. But really who knows, in a different climate state maybe the ridging in the GOA is more amplified, maybe 2007-08 does not happen in the 50s because the state of the climate wouldn't allow it. What if 2007-08 was the 1949-50 of our time. 


Snowfall

2017-18: 0.8"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

 

 


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 08:24 AM

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Had lots of snowflakes falling at 400ft in December 2007 that NEVER STUCK. Very frustrating to say the least.