Anti Marine Layer Posted May 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Still drizzling as of 11 AM here. Looks like more record low maximums could be broken the next 3 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Same exact latitude but different weather. Santa Maria, CA Rock Hill, SC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 This has definitely got to be one of the most bizarre years I can ever remember. It began with deep troughing in mid September, but with sea surface temperatures well above normal, the deep marine layer did not have its usual refrigeration effect. Then there was that heat wave around the time of the World Series, followed by what looked like it could be our first fall storm, but that fizzled out. Then the Thanksgiving heat wave followed by the December Santa Ana winds, which actually started out cold, but caused the fires anyway. Though there were a few really cold days and one big storm, which finally helped to put out the fires a month after they began, there was another Santa Ana event followed by extreme heat all the way to the coast in late January. Trees still had leaves in January and early February like they would have in November. Then the sudden stratospheric warming which caused temperatures to crash late February and about the time trees usually bud the their new leaves they finally lost them. Leave buds were still coming in early May. Still gotta wonder if this troughy pattern is a result of that sudden stratospheric warming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Anytime at sunset it is as dark as the end of civil twilight, you know that the clouds have to be really, really, really, really, really, really thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Mt Wilson, which may be fogged over by tomorrow morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 No sun to speak of today 70/ 59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 It's raining out. Raining. Not just drizzling. Raining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 0.02" in the last hour. 0.03" since last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 0.05" so far. The low clouds like to pile up on the Santa Ana Mountains here making us even gloomier than most places. We can also get some decent rainfall from winter storms while the totals for John Wayne Airport are pathetic. Mt. Wilson Observatory is fogged in this morning, as I predicted yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Ground is wet from apparent overnight drizzle but only 0.01 in gauge. L: 59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 NWS_LA"That said, its pretty unusual for the marine layer to hang tough for so many days in a row so there is a decent chc of some afternoon clearing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 On and off drizzly light rain in Santa Maria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Lovely day in Julian as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Drizzle off and on. Now 0.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Weatherman Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 0.05" so far. The low clouds like to pile up on the Santa Ana Mountains here making us even gloomier than most places. We can also get some decent rainfall from winter storms while the totals for John Wayne Airport are pathetic. Mt. Wilson Observatory is fogged in this morning, as I predicted yesterday. The air gets lifted over the mountains in a process called orographic lifting, causing more cloud buildups and wringing out more moisture from the marine layer (and storms, too). These upslope areas on the windward sides of mountain ranges (side in which prevailing winds blow toward) can receive quite a bit more rainfall than surrounding flatter areas not as close to the mountains. This is the reason why totals at John Wayne Airport can be so much lower than areas such as Foothill Ranch and Trabuco Canyon. On the other hand, Lake Elsinore is on the leeward side of Saddleback, and the flow is more downsloping and drier on that side, and the areas along I-15 that are downwind of the higher peaks are much drier, even almost desert-like at times. Temecula is wetter than Lake Elsinore, since the mountains are much lower in that direction and they don't act as much as a rain shadow as around Elsinore. Please note that I am talking about the rainy season patterns, and not the summer monsoon pattern, which is quite different for these regions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 It is only 61F at mid afternoon; this could very well be another record low maximum for the date. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Sun actually came out a little bit this morning, but now the clouds are thick again with a slightly less gloomy area of sky towards the ocean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Managed to pick up 0.04 today 64/ 59 May: 0.13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Seems to be a tad less dark than yesterday at this time, likely because yesterday had a solid cirrus deck atop the usual May Gray deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Upper low brought some much more exciting weather today to Albuquerque with severe thunderstorms and temperatures dropping from 72 F to 48 F in one hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 It's possible it could warm up next week, but I would not count on it. While this May may feel like the coldest in history, 2015 and 2016 were slightly cooler, but the month is not over yet. Also, looks like one year Downtown L.A. averaged an incredibly chilly 67 F for the high one May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Also, 2014 was incredibly hot with almost no May Gray/June Gloom. 2015 was above average every month of the year except for May when we had some late season storms that brought some real rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 KCQT, KBUR, and KSNA are all running about a -0.5º departure for the month. KLAX is actually running 0.2º above normal. If that really feels like "the coldest in history," it says more about how consistently warm it's been over the last few years than how cool this May has been.Seems like you are having the same problem down there that we are up here. People have become so acclimated to constant warmer and drier than average conditions that average is now viewed as unbearably cool and gloomy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Clouds are a bit thinner today, but it's not making too much difference in temperatures. Yesterday the evening felt warmer than the middle of the day, which is fairly typical for deep marine layers, since the breeze usually stops toward the evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Clouds are in their teasing mode where it looks like the sun is about to come out, but it probably will not, or if it does, it won't be long until more stratocumulus form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 It's finally a very sunny but cool afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Clouds cleared about 30 minutes ago for the first time in at least 4 days. 66/ 57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Clouds have thinned out, but are nowhere close to clearing here. Tomorrow is a new day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Los Angeles forecast discussion says a ridge might form early next week, San Diego says no. Both are predicting much warmer temperatures by Memorial Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 NWS refers to it as "back-filling" when the stratus shield moves west toward the coast. It never cleared up against Mt Wilson/ San Gabriel valley today. I've never kept track of consecutive cloudy days but this month has had its "fair" share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Wonder what the most cutoff lows for May are. May 2015 was cool, with some storms that brought real rain and even a few cold days in the desert. However, I don't think they were all cutoff lows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Apparently a new inversion is trying to form as clouds have started to break up after sunset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 It was clear at the Huntington Beach farmer's markethttps://twitter.com/HBSurfCityUSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Another lame excuse for a "ridge" today with marine layer still 4000 ft deep and Fullerton overcast for 100 hours straight. Really, really gloomy this morning as well as it was slightly brighter the last 2 mornings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Sacramento is getting some light rain this morning from the marine layer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Marine layer once again appears to be deeper over Orange and L.A. counties than San Diego County, as Sandberg (4700 ft.) was in the soup this morning and Julian (4200 ft.) was not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Yesterday there was surface stratus under the inversion and altocumulus above that. Higher ceiling this morning. L: 59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Julian is 72 F, Beaumont is 55 F. Inversion must be quite strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Solid Stratus https://twitter.com/sdutKrier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Sun is trying to come out again with not much success. Big difference from the darkness this morning at 8 am. One thing I wonder. How many consecutive overcast days would be needed for leaves to start changing color? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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