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Lol, at this rate we could be buried in ice and still run a +0.5C anomaly. We’re approaching a +2.5C net upward adjustment, nationally.

 

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Lol, at this rate we could be buried in ice and still run a +0.5C anomaly. We’re approaching a +2.5C net upward adjustment, nationally.

 

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I wonder who was doing the "adjusting"?  Looks suspect.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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I wonder who was doing the "adjusting"? Looks suspect.

Don’t get me wrong, adjustments are necessary and the concepts are well-intentioned, but they should roughly even out to zero in the grand scheme of things, especially in the more recent decades. There is no physically plausible reason for this exponentially increasing trend in the upward adjustments.

 

It’s approaching 10*F now. That is absurd.

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Don’t get me wrong, adjustments are necessary and the concepts are well-intentioned, but they should roughly even out to zero in the grand scheme of things, especially in the more recent decades. There is no physically plausible reason for this exponentially increasing trend in the upward adjustments.

 

It’s approaching 10*F now. That is absurd.

 

Can you keep the conspiracy theory tinfoil hat stuff out of here? You can do better. Nobody is adjusting anything by 10 degrees F. You're not doing anyone any favors by making it sound like climate scientists are either 1) crooked or 2) idiots. Except the oil industry of course. Don't forget, you're a student. You don't know better no matter how smart you are. BTW in that previous graph, the units are degrees F so the net adjustment wasn't 2.5 degrees C. 

 

As a member of the climate science community (which I am now), this is the kind of stuff that makes me not want to post here. Just being honest.

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If we're able to hang on to our 43 degree high at PDX, that will break the record of 47 from 1996. I remember that day pretty well. March 24, 1996 was an interesting late-season "arctic frontal" passage here in Portland:

 

https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KPDX/1996/3/24/DailyHistory.html?cm_ven=localwx_history

 

There was mixed rain and snow when the winds switched to easterly late that morning. I remember going through a snow shower on I-205. Then dropping temperatures from late afternoon to evening under cold gorge outlflow, with dewpoints down to 10 by midnight. Really impressive event for so late in the spring. Two days later on 3/26/1996, Minneapolis saw their latest -10 F reading on record as part of the same cold airmass. 

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If we're able to hang on to our 43 degree high at PDX, that will break the record of 47 from 1996. I remember that day pretty well. March 24, 1996 was an interesting late-season "arctic frontal" passage here in Portland:

 

https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KPDX/1996/3/24/DailyHistory.html?cm_ven=localwx_history

 

There was mixed rain and snow when the winds switched to easterly late that morning. I remember going through a snow shower on I-205. Then dropping temperatures from late afternoon to evening under cold gorge outlflow, with dewpoints down to 10 by midnight. Really impressive event for so late in the spring. Two days later on 3/26/1996, Minneapolis saw their latest -10 F reading on record as part of the same cold airmass.

PDX is up to 45 on the 5-minute obs now.

 

That is a cool memory though. I wasn’t aware of that event.

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18z ensemble is much cooler.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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I noticed the same thing. Much like the EPS which was not mentioned today.

 

Someone was probably to busy enjoying the warm sunshine and doing yard work to post the good news. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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I noticed the same thing. Much like the EPS which was not mentioned today.

 

I never ignore model trends... good or bad.   For example... I complained about the ECMWF warm front drizzle already today.   I always point out the bad.  People don't like that either.  You are always looking for trouble.   Who me?  Jesse tells us he is an angel.    :lol:

 

Side note... I did talk about the EPS and its essentially unchanged.   Dividing line for the forseeable future.

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Someone was probably to busy enjoying the warm sunshine and doing yard work to post the good news. 

 

It was actually a lovely afternoon up here.   Cool but with appreciable sun and dry.

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I never ignore model trends... good or bad. For example... I complained about the ECMWF warm front drizzle already today. I always point out the bad. People don't like that either. You are always looking for trouble. Who me? Jesse tells us he is an angel. :lol:

 

Side note... I did talk about the EPS and its essentially unchanged. Dividing line for the forseeable future.

Wow.

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Can you keep the conspiracy theory tinfoil hat stuff out of here? You can do better. Nobody is adjusting anything by 10 degrees F. You're not doing anyone any favors by making it sound like climate scientists are either 1) crooked or 2) idiots. Except the oil industry of course. Don't forget, you're a student. You don't know better no matter how smart you are. BTW in that previous graph, the units are degrees F so the net adjustment wasn't 2.5 degrees C.

 

As a member of the climate science community (which I am now), this is the kind of stuff that makes me not want to post here. Just being honest.

Oh cry me a river. With all due respect, I don’t think you know two s**ts about what goes into homogenizing surface station datasets, and I’ll bet you’ve never met any of the operational NCDC scientists responsible for doing it. So please drop the fake anger schtick. It’s annoying.

 

I also never claimed anyone was/is “crooked”. That was your own bizarre derivation. I actually said the adjustments were/are well intentioned, as far as I know, so if anything you’re the one seeing ghosts.

 

Also, as a “member” of the academic climate science community myself, it’s my opinion that if your instinct is to get weak-kneed and flabbergasted when asking the tough questions, you’re not going to accomplish anything of worthwhile consequence in your scientific career.

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Sun setting against Mt Si right now...

 

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Incredibly gorgeous shot.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Incredibly gorgeous shot.

 

After I saw that on the web cam... I had to walk out a get a picture of the sunset from up here.   The brilliance of the white Cascades in the setting sun was amazing.   Pictures don't do it justice.

 

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Andrew... that gap you see in the shadows to the right is the western opening of Snoqualmie Pass.    Through that gap comes all kinds of wintry goodness and dry air and sometimes downsloping warming.  :)

 

Its deceiving because it looks like I am standing at the same elevation, but in reality I standing at about 1,000 feet and the mountains in the distance are probably between 4,000-6,000 feet.

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To clarify, what I should have said is that the polynomial trendline is approaching 10*F (per century). Not that the sum of the adjustments is already 10*F. That was my mistake.

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Can you keep the conspiracy theory tinfoil hat stuff out of here? You can do better. Nobody is adjusting anything by 10 degrees F. You're not doing anyone any favors by making it sound like climate scientists are either 1) crooked or 2) idiots. Except the oil industry of course. Don't forget, you're a student. You don't know better no matter how smart you are. BTW in that previous graph, the units are degrees F so the net adjustment wasn't 2.5 degrees C. 

 

As a member of the climate science community (which I am now), this is the kind of stuff that makes me not want to post here. Just being honest.

 

I can't see where he did anything wrong.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Of course leave it to PDX to keep rising through 7pm.

 

High of 42 at Scappoose, 43 in Hillsboro and 41 in Kelso though.

 

I think somebody has a heat lamp they hold up to the PDX sensor.  Rising until 7pm?

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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I think somebody has a heat lamp they hold up to the PDX sensor. Rising until 7pm?

It was probably held down due to precip all day and then rose up to where it would have been when the precip ended.

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SEA pulled off a nice -7 departure today.  

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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It was probably held down due to precip all day and then rose up to where it would have been when the precip ended.

 

Probably, but that station always seems so warm.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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42/30 here today. The aforementioned 2.2" of snow early this morning. 34 with some light snow falling now. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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44/36 here.  Light rain all day. Currently 43.

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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I can't see where he did anything wrong.

I’m kind of shocked, honestly. Demitri had become one of my favorite posters, but I’m not sure I can ever hold that same level of respect now.

 

In just one measly post, he managed to invoke oil companies, call me a conspiracy theorist seeking to discredit scientists (I never revealed any names), wrongly claim that I’d implied ulterior motives, and then suggest that I’m somehow his naive academic underling (had to laugh at the irony there). I don’t see how it’s possible to overlook this one.

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Our current neighbors are also relocating and the funniest thing is we will once again be neighbors! They got their keys today so we watched the sunset from their new place. We will be below them at 500ft, they are at 700ft...what a view they have!

The start of our new property is in the first pic down below where the group of trees are. We will have the best of both worlds, our place is 5 acres of mostly forest with no visible neighbors but a hike through a trail I am going to make and we will be enjoying sunsets overlooking the water at our neighbor and friends 40 acres. Good times ahead!

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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I think somebody has a heat lamp they hold up to the PDX sensor. Rising until 7pm?

The same image pops into my head. :lol:

 

Still their coldest high of 45 or lower this late since 1985, and good for beating the daily record MIN/MAX by two degrees. It would have been fun to totally blow it away for once, though.

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Our current neighbors are also relocating and the funniest thing is we will once again be neighbors! They got their keys today so we watched the sunset from their new place. We will be below them at 500ft, they are at 700ft...what a view they have!

The start of our new property is in the first pic down below where the group of trees are. We will have the best of both worlds, our place is 5 acres of mostly forest with no visible neighbors but a hike through a trail I am going to make and we will be enjoying sunsets overlooking the water at our neighbor and friends 40 acres. Good times ahead!

 

Looks beautiful

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Wow... the GEM went completely the other way on the 00Z run.   Now goes crazy with the trough next weekend.   Completely reversing its trend the other way.  

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