SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 I was just giving you a hard time anyways. Not a big deal You never know with some people on here..., Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Since the rainy season ended abruptly on April 16th this year, today marks the 3 month mark. Just 2.29” of rain has fallen here during that stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Since the rainy season ended abruptly on April 16th this year, today marks the 3 month mark. Just 2.29” of rain has fallen here during that stretch.Over 7 inches here since that time. But its starting to dry out now. Sunny sides of roads are starting to look dry. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Noticed this morning that some deciduous trees around here are starting to prematurely change color due to drought stress. Don’t usually see that until mid-August or so, if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Noticed this morning that some deciduous trees around here are starting to prematurely change color due to drought stress. Don’t usually see that until mid-August or so, if at all.Better stop driving my gas-guzzlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 About 2" here since mid-April. Average would be about 12-13" in that span. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Are they getting bsf too?It all trended east. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 About 2" here since mid-April. Average would be about 12-13" in that span. do you know if they banned campfires up near your way at state parks? Going to Detroit lake this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 do you know if they banned campfires up near your way at state parks? Going to Detroit lake this weekend. I don't think so. I drove up to the park to check things out on Friday. They were staging for the small wildfire, but the campground was still open and people had campfires going. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Over 7 inches here since that time. But its starting to dry out now. Sunny sides of roads are starting to look dry.I still have slugs roaming around up here! Still lush as can be here at the moment anyway. I figured my grass would start baking out after this hot weekend and with the soil difference from my old place, but it hasn’t happened yet. I’m sure this week I will start seeing signs of dryness though. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 SEA has seen 1.16" since April 16. Such a drippy climate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Interesting departures for the first half of July. Once again the departure decreases as one goes further south in the Willamette Valley. PDX: 4.2SLE: 3.5EUG: 0.8I wonder if PDX needs a sensor swap? It’s really been diverging warm since March, more-so than usual per the NCDC plots. Either way, UHI is very evident there. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 It all trended east.Correction it SLIDES east. Let's try to make it as sexual as possible, please. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Those stats may reflect EUG's colder nights (due to UHI ) more than anything else. The average to date high temps for July are a lot closer: PDX: 84.7SLE: 84.7EUG: 83.7EUG averaging highs a degree below PDX is unusual, though. Shows it really has been cooler further south. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 I wonder if PDX needs a sensor swap? It’s really been diverging warm since March, more-so than usual per the NCDC plots. Either way, UHI is very evident there.Lately they do seem to tack on a degree or two beyond what you would expect. Especially on warm, sunny days. Of course, we’ve been in fairly warm patterns the last few months as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 SEA has seen 1.16" since April 16. Such a drippy climate!It is a drippy climate. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 It is a drippy climate. SEA might see 4" of precip a year on that rate. Impressive aridity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 SEA might see 4" of precip a year on that rate. Impressive aridity. Yep... that is the climate here. Great insight! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 I still have slugs roaming around up here! Still lush as can be here at the moment anyway. I figured my grass would start baking out after this hot weekend and with the soil difference from my old place, but it hasn’t happened yet. I’m sure this week I will start seeing signs of dryness though. Lots of slugs around here too. Just took this pic of the lawn... have not watered it yet this year. Although I am letting it stay long during this warm spell. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 It is a drippy climate.Not always. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 SEA has seen 1.16" since April 16. Such a drippy climate!I can't imagine many years have been drier from mid April to mid July. Only a handful have been drier for any 3 month stretch. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Not all year long. No... we normally have drier weather during the summer. I know this is really surprising! But its a drippy climate overall. Here is what Wikipedia says: Seattle has a temperate marine climate, classified as warm-summer Mediterranean climate (Köppen: Csb), with cool, wet winters and mild, relatively dry summers.[85][86]The city and environs are part of USDA hardiness zone 8b, with isolated coastal pockets falling under 9a.[87]Temperature extremes are moderated by the adjacent Puget Sound, greater Pacific Ocean, and Lake Washington. Thus extreme heat waves are rare in the Seattle area, as are very cold temperatures (below about 15 °F (−9 °C)). The Seattle area is the most cloudy region of the United States, due in part to frequent storms and lows moving in from the adjacent Pacific Ocean. Despite having a reputation for frequent rain, Seattle receives less precipitation than many other U.S. cities like Chicago or New York City. However, unlike many other U.S. cities, Seattle has many more "rain days", when a very light drizzle falls from the sky for many days.[88] In an average year, at least 0.01 inches (0.25 mm) of precipitation falls on 150 days, more than nearly all U.S. cities east of the Rocky Mountains Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 I can't imagine many years have been drier from mid April to mid July. Only a handful have been drier for any 3 month stretch. 2015 might be the closest competition but this year has been drier. Tim is obviously bothered by the fact that he lives on a remote mountaintop and the actual PNW is becoming increasingly baren and dusty. It feels like Tombstone here. Salem hasn't seen measurable precipitation since June 11! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Despite being drier than normal even out here since April 16th... its still really wet for 2018. And even though its been drier than normal overall out here... it was still sufficiently wet and cloudy over the last 3 months to keep it green and lush. It has definitely stayed green out here longer this summer than any year since 2012 (but 2016 was close). Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2015 might be the closest competition but this year has been drier. Tim is obviously bothered by the fact that he lives on a remote mountaintop and the actual PNW is becoming increasingly baren and dusty. It feels like Tombstone here. Salem hasn't seen measurable precipitation since June 11! It still been anomalously wet here in 2018. That is compared to the average rainfall here. But overall... we have greatly appreciated the rain since the middle of April. Its been wonderful for our landscaping and garden. I wish we had some more sun in May and June... but the rain has been welcome for the most part. I would love some more rain right now. It will come. It always does! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Looking back at some of my weather notes, the last time (before yesterday's storms) I had an AM thunderstorm between sunrise and noon was 06/09/2015 in Klamath Falls. For a place very prone to storms in the spring and summer, you'd figure I'd average at least 1 or 2 every year. Even in 2014 I had none that occurred between midnight to noon, that was a year I recorded 21 t'storm days, almost twice my annual average. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2015 might be the closest competition but this year has been drier. Tim is obviously bothered by the fact that he lives on a remote mountaintop and the actual PNW is becoming increasingly baren and dusty. It feels like Tombstone here. Salem hasn't seen measurable precipitation since June 11!The tree die off next spring should be pretty sobering. There was a large die off in 2016 following the 2015 mega-drought, and this year is looking even worse. Gradual change over to California-lite vegetation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 I had a significant amount of convective precipitation in 2015. Like the types of storms that turn streets into streams in July/August. I don't have the numbers on me but I am sure the J-J-A period in both 2015 and 2014 were like 250-300% normal rainfall here and not just in Klamath. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Jones Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 The tree die off next spring should be pretty sobering. There was a large die off in 2016 following the 2015 mega-drought, and this year is looking even worse. Gradual change over to California-lite vegetation. I've been noticing the color on some trees in the last week or so as well, definitely the earliest I've ever seen it happen. But as Tim says, the rain always comes!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 I've been noticing the color on some trees in the last week or so as well, definitely the earliest I've ever seen it happen. But as Tim says, the rain always comes!!!!It does here!!! Sorry... I don't live in Portand. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 It does here!!! Sorry... I don't live in Portand.Then why do you feel the need to respond with your latest slug-stat the umpteenth time everyone posts an observation about drought down here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Then why do you feel the need to post your latest slug-stat the umpteenth time everyone posts an observation about drought down here?Randy brought up slugs today. But it's been quite the battle for us this year in the garden. Worse than ever. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 The tree die off next spring should be pretty sobering. There was a large die off in 2016 following the 2015 mega-drought, and this year is looking even worse. Gradual change over to California-lite vegetation. We're basically just becoming what SW Oregon was a few decades ago. No biggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 We're basically just becoming what SW Oregon was a few decades ago. No biggie.I miss seeing bigleaf maple trees with a full, healthy canopy. Most of them have dead branches and brown areas of dying leaves on the top now. Our classic Portland area scenery has really taken a hit. Basically everything looks unhealthy these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Lots of slugs around here too. Just took this pic of the lawn... have not watered it yet this year. Although I am letting it stay long during this warm spell. Big leaf maple on the left of pic above. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Big leaf maple on the left of pic above.Looks way healthier than the ones down here. When we were at the coast yesterday they looked pretty healthy heading down the Nestucca valley to Pacific City too. Sort of underscored how much the inland ones are suffering in this area. Not sure if it’s the early dry out or the sustained heat the last several summers, probably a combination of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Looks way healthier than the ones down here. When we were at the coast yesterday they looked pretty healthy heading down the Nestucca valley to Pacific City too. Sort of underscored how much the inland ones are suffering in this area. Not sure if it’s the early dry out or the sustained heat the last several summers, probably a combination of the two.Yeah... it is really unfortunate how dry it's been in the inland areas from Seattle southward since April. I don't think it's a permanent warm season phenomenon though... despite how it feels now. At least I hope not. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 For those that scoff at the potential for heat and drought related tree die off in the west, here’s how bad it’s been in California in recent years. And there is nothing that says our forests are immune to this sort of thing. Might just be a matter of time. Sierra foothills in Fresno county. Taken summer 2015: Then summer 2016 from the same viewpoint: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Noticing the GFS ensembles have slowly crept warmer for the entire run the past two runs... Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Noticing the GFS ensembles have slowly crept warmer for the entire run the past two runs...Too be expected.,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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