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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:25 AM

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It only dropped to 19°F at my place last night, I'm presuming because of unexpected cloud cover.

Sun was forecasted today, which I was worried would melt off the snow. However, it is flurrying right now and completely overcast. That leaves tomorrow as the most worrisome day of the week. If we can pull off a miracle, we may be able to make it into the weekend with most of the snowcover still intact. 21.8°F.

Then you have to hope it doesn't rain this weekend.  



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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:35 AM

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Roughly 1-2” at my place in Chicago lol. Bohemian Shaftcity if I’ve ever seen one! If it all would’ve been snow we’d be BURIED.

Same here..all that water down the drain......


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:40 AM

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Clearly, a bust here in my area..... :lol:

 

Was hoping to break the all time record snowfall.


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:46 AM

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Of course, the year I am done with school in the quad cities.. they get a foot snowstorm. My old school cancelled classes for the day. I think the best I got was half a day called off, and I still had two classes after that..
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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:47 AM

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LOL @ radar

 

Looks like a 200 mile long death band off of Saginaw Bay. Can't say I remember seeing that b4

 

Measured a solid 3" when I got out about 7 this morning. Usual issues of melting, compaction, plus the added wind makes it challenging to know exactly. Also, the continued snow will have settled no doubt by the time I can get home this evening. 

 

Takes me to top-5 Nov and looks like mid-winter again. GRR skates by a chin whisker on their WWA headline. Shoulda gone Warning imo but as we know, if it's not a12+ slam-dunk they'll hedge low, especially down our way along 94


Winter 2018-19 Snow Total = 55.3"  Largest Storm: 2x 7" (1/28-29 & 1/18-19)        Oct: 0.0 Nov: 15.2 Dec: 2.0 Jan: 21.7 Feb: 14.1 Mar: 2.3 Apr: 0.0 

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.9"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 67.4" (135% of normal)

2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:51 AM

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Might be able to squeeze an inch or 2 later this afternoon before all is set n done.


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:54 AM

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Good morning. I just took a snow depth measurement and here at my house it was only 2.4" of wet snow. At this time getting light snow with blowing snow. I would think that for here in West Michigan the GRR NWS made a very good call with their Winter Weather Advisory and not go with a Winter Storm Warning, The current temperature here with that snow and blowing snow is now at 28.2°

 

See my other post, but down my way along 94 it was bad enough that it could've gone either way. It was certainly more like a storm than our usual WWA snow event, tho the first 3-4 hrs snow fell with temps in the mid-30's so that hurt accum's. 


Winter 2018-19 Snow Total = 55.3"  Largest Storm: 2x 7" (1/28-29 & 1/18-19)        Oct: 0.0 Nov: 15.2 Dec: 2.0 Jan: 21.7 Feb: 14.1 Mar: 2.3 Apr: 0.0 

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.9"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 67.4" (135% of normal)

2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:58 AM

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Of course, the year I am done with school in the quad cities.. they get a foot snowstorm. My old school cancelled classes for the day. I think the best I got was half a day called off, and I still had two classes after that..

Our streets are a mess here and we only got 2 inches or so of snow but had school on time.  We had rain before that froze after the temp. plummeted.  The superintendent of our school district hates to call off school and usually says just take it slow and leave earlier.  We usually only get out if wind and visibility are an issue.  I was kind of surprised that Lincoln Public was called off.



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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:58 AM

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The last batch to my west can provide an inch or so at the most. Lets see what happens b4 we can finally say ba bye to this storm in the Gl's region.



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Posted 26 November 2018 - 11:25 AM

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"It's a Storm by any other name" or however that saying goes. By these reports it certainly looks like a Storm Warning was proper for at least some of GRR's counties. I like how it says "STORM TOTAL" 

 

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PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI
200 PM EST MON NOV 26 2018

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

0159 PM HEAVY SNOW DOWLING 42.52N 85.25W
11/26/2018 M11.5 INCH BARRY MI PUBLIC

STORM TOTAL.

0120 PM HEAVY SNOW PORTLAND 42.87N 84.90W
11/26/2018 M8.0 INCH IONIA MI TRAINED SPOTTER

STORM TOTAL.

1100 AM HEAVY SNOW EATON RAPIDS 42.51N 84.65W
11/26/2018 M7.4 INCH EATON MI PUBLIC

STORM TOTAL.


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Winter 2018-19 Snow Total = 55.3"  Largest Storm: 2x 7" (1/28-29 & 1/18-19)        Oct: 0.0 Nov: 15.2 Dec: 2.0 Jan: 21.7 Feb: 14.1 Mar: 2.3 Apr: 0.0 

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.9"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 67.4" (135% of normal)

2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 11:30 AM

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I like that last batch coming. That looks impressive.

 

Marshall caught it's last gasp before it went "poof" before it even made it to Jack-town!

 

Guessing my total will fall in the 4-5" range. Nice little "1st storm" of the winter and it looks like mid-winter outside. Can't wait to see my holiday decorations lit up this evening.. :)

 

Edit - Found a rarity. An actual official report out of Marshall. Only seen this when a big storm hits. 90 mins after I measured 3" so feel pretty good that's where i was at 7 am.

 

0836 AM SNOW 1 NW MARSHALL 42.27N 84.97W

11/26/2018 M3.5 INCH CALHOUN MI CO-OP OBSERVER

STORM TOTAL SO FAR. CO-OP OBSERVER STATION
MARM4, MARSHALL.


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Winter 2018-19 Snow Total = 55.3"  Largest Storm: 2x 7" (1/28-29 & 1/18-19)        Oct: 0.0 Nov: 15.2 Dec: 2.0 Jan: 21.7 Feb: 14.1 Mar: 2.3 Apr: 0.0 

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.9"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 67.4" (135% of normal)

2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 12:14 PM

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The finial snow fall total here for this event at my house is 5.5" with a range of less than 1" to drifts of 6.8" This was a very wet snow so there was a lot of compacting. Will see what the official snow fall was at GRR.  At the airport they reported 0.2" of snow fall before midnight. The current temperature here is 32° with cloudy skies.


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 01:39 PM

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Looks to me like both SMI offices busted pretty badly. GRR obviously should've had a good chunk of their CWA in a Warning, while DTX looks like their Warning was a fail, at least from an amounts perspective


Winter 2018-19 Snow Total = 55.3"  Largest Storm: 2x 7" (1/28-29 & 1/18-19)        Oct: 0.0 Nov: 15.2 Dec: 2.0 Jan: 21.7 Feb: 14.1 Mar: 2.3 Apr: 0.0 

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.9"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 67.4" (135% of normal)

2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 01:56 PM

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8.4” is the official total at O’Hare.
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Posted 26 November 2018 - 04:06 PM

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Looks to me like both SMI offices busted pretty badly. GRR obviously should've had a good chunk of their CWA in a Warning, while DTX looks like their Warning was a fail, at least from an amounts perspective

Couldn't have said it better...I just got slush... :lol:



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Posted 26 November 2018 - 04:08 PM

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Marshall caught it's last gasp before it went "poof" before it even made it to Jack-town!

 

Guessing my total will fall in the 4-5" range. Nice little "1st storm" of the winter and it looks like mid-winter outside. Can't wait to see my holiday decorations lit up this evening.. :)

 

Edit - Found a rarity. An actual official report out of Marshall. Only seen this when a big storm hits. 90 mins after I measured 3" so feel pretty good that's where i was at 7 am.

 

0836 AM SNOW 1 NW MARSHALL 42.27N 84.97W

11/26/2018 M3.5 INCH CALHOUN MI CO-OP OBSERVER

STORM TOTAL SO FAR. CO-OP OBSERVER STATION
MARM4, MARSHALL.

You did pretty decent snowfallwise. ;)

 

Post your decorations if you can......Probably looks awesome


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 04:21 PM

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8.4” is the official total at O’Hare.


Not bad for a November snowstorm that may have “underperformed.”
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Posted 26 November 2018 - 04:24 PM

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I found this quote pretty crazy from this morning’s AFD out of DVN:

“The powerful early season winter storm that produced blizzard conditions (gusts of 40-45mph), a heavy snow band of 8 to 14+ inches, and quite a bit of thundersnow, is finally winding down. Incredibly, some places near the Quad Cities had 0.75" of rain before changing to snow, which prevented storm totals from eclipsing 20 inches.”
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Posted 26 November 2018 - 05:19 PM

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Too bad there wasnt a lot of cold air around for this storm, otherwise, totals would have been substantial for many



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Posted 26 November 2018 - 05:27 PM

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Too bad there wasnt a lot of cold air around for this storm, otherwise, totals would have been substantial for many

 

Like that cold the day before Turkey Day. Can just imagine if we had that air mass to work with, this would've easily been double what happened. Timing's everything they say. The good news is, looking at the 2 major storms so far, moisture availability shouldn't be an issue so eventually I would expect one of these storms will indeed tangle with a truly arctic air mass and go nuclear


Winter 2018-19 Snow Total = 55.3"  Largest Storm: 2x 7" (1/28-29 & 1/18-19)        Oct: 0.0 Nov: 15.2 Dec: 2.0 Jan: 21.7 Feb: 14.1 Mar: 2.3 Apr: 0.0 

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.9"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 67.4" (135% of normal)

2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 05:29 PM

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Like that cold the day before Turkey Day. Can just imagine if we had that air mass to work with, this would've easily been double what happened. Timing's everything they say. The good news is, looking at the 2 major storms so far, moisture availability shouldn't be an issue so eventually I would expect on of these storms will indeed tangle with a truly arctic air mass and go nuclear

Exactly...its a matter of time b4 we get the big dogs coming our way



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Posted 26 November 2018 - 10:02 PM

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Hi everyone.... this is my first time posting on here though I've been lurking on this forum for several years already. It seems I'm to busy to keep up with all the comments so decided I don't have time to figure out this site or post anything either, plus I had problems logging in. I also used to be on Schnack's chat and I'm sure Hawkeye knows me yet! I live approximately 15 miles sw of downtown Ia City. I just wanted to comment belatedly that I was in the jack zone from this snowstorm (just barely) and ended up with right around 12"!! Liquid equivalent 1.63" includes 0.20" rain before changeover. A good old fashioned snowstorm for sure! Looks and feels like mid winter.
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‘18 - ‘19 season snowfall by month = Nov: 14.2, Dec: .30”, Jan: 21.2”, Feb: 13.8”,
Mar: 2.5”
Greatest season snowfall = 60.5” in 2007 - ‘08

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 06:57 AM

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Welcome, Sparky!  I was hoping you would find this forum and post your observations from sw of Iowa City.  (You probably know I was Dan-CR on Schnack's chat).


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season snowfall: 49.9"

 

'17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


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Posted 27 November 2018 - 08:05 AM

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Welcome, Sparky! I was hoping you would find this forum and post your observations from sw of Iowa City. (You probably know I was Dan-CR on Schnack's chat).


I can’t believe he still hasn’t brought that back. I wonder how it’s impacted his blog views.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 09:56 AM

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Post-mortem final storm totals map out of GRR. I count no fewer than 12 counties that should've been a Watch-to-Warning scenario based solely on snowfall in a 12 hr window. I feel cheated out of the pink label headline..once again. Will throw my protest letter on the growing pile I have over the past few years (sigh)

 

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 09:59 AM

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Post-mortem final storm totals map out of GRR. I count no fewer than 12 counties that should've been a Watch-to-Warning scenario based solely on snowfall in a 12 hr window. I feel robbed of the pink label headline..once again. Will throw my protest letter on the growing pile I have over the past few years (sigh)

 

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Your NWS office makes me appreciate how good mine is.  WOW!


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Posted 27 November 2018 - 10:12 AM

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I will add that as suspected the best stuff was just one county north. Initially felt that rates and dynamics would combine to pull that 540 line that 30 miles south much quicker than what happened. Probably a combination of several things happening at once. The storm was losing strength and dynamics weren't like they were west of here. The "cold" air wasn't a January arctic mass, and the WAA was able to stall off the transition and temp drop by a good 2-3 hrs. Oh well, other than my peeve with the NWS office, generally happy because we did get a decent snowstorm when all was said and done.


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Winter 2018-19 Snow Total = 55.3"  Largest Storm: 2x 7" (1/28-29 & 1/18-19)        Oct: 0.0 Nov: 15.2 Dec: 2.0 Jan: 21.7 Feb: 14.1 Mar: 2.3 Apr: 0.0 

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.9"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 67.4" (135% of normal)

2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Notable Blizzards/Snowstorms in SWMI: Nov 2015, Feb 2015, Jan 2014Feb 2011, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Jan 1982, Jan 1979, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, March 1973, Jan 1967, March 1947, Jan 1918

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967

 

"Long range winter forecasting - it's like tossing darts in a hurricane.."  "In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself" and to think kids nowadays get day's off school because the wind blew. I think in '78 we only got 1 day off”  "..It's the U.P. where there are two seasons. Winter, and three months of bad skiing.."


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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:27 AM

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Welcome, Sparky!  I was hoping you would find this forum and post your observations from sw of Iowa City.  (You probably know I was Dan-CR on Schnack's chat).

Yes I knew you were Dan
(‘18 - ‘19 season snowfall total: 52”. )
‘18 - ‘19 season snowfall by month = Nov: 14.2, Dec: .30”, Jan: 21.2”, Feb: 13.8”,
Mar: 2.5”
Greatest season snowfall = 60.5” in 2007 - ‘08

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:31 AM

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Hi everyone.... this is my first time posting on here though I've been lurking on this forum for several years already. It seems I'm to busy to keep up with all the comments so decided I don't have time to figure out this site or post anything either, plus I had problems logging in. I also used to be on Schnack's chat and I'm sure Hawkeye knows me yet! I live approximately 15 miles sw of downtown Ia City. I just wanted to comment belatedly that I was in the jack zone from this snowstorm (just barely) and ended up with right around 12"!! Liquid equivalent 1.63" includes 0.20" rain before changeover. A good old fashioned snowstorm for sure! Looks and feels like mid winter.

Welcome Sparky.


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Posted 28 November 2018 - 10:54 AM

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I can’t believe he still hasn’t brought that back. I wonder how it’s impacted his blog views.

I miss the Schnack chat, especially when he would chime in. I would go back n forth from there and here. Good times
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