hlcater Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 QPF field actually looks a lot like the Ukie. Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grizzcoat Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 The Euro is a step in the right direction for many posters. 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 00z EPS took a big step in the right direction for IA/WI posters...I'll also add the Euro Control which is a big hit for E IA/WI posters. Nice storm taking shape on the more trusted models. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just glanced through all 51 EPS members and basically all of them show some type of snowstorm for IA/N IL/MN/WI/MI....most of them show a major snowstorm somewhere. I'd say that is a positive trend. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 It's pretty amazing comparing the GEFS and EPS snow mean inside 84 hours. GEFS members are not enthusiastic at all with the potential for a snowstorm while the Euro/EPS are pretty much a "go". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 I know it will change and all-- and being in C.IA it still would only be a 1-3" event- but when the Ukie and Euro trend in the right direction at this time frame (sub 72hr) -- it's a good thing. Rather have the Ukie and Euro go this way than any other 2 models- every thing else being =. Good sign. But still need a solid 24-36 hours more before I can offciially get excited for 1-3". (Thats a big deal when you have had 2.7" for the entire winter) . 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 mkx calling for rain all day in Madison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerwx Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 mkx calling for rain all day in Madison?Take a peek at their forecast disco from this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Mkx disxo... doesn't sound promising to me? Temps will rise a few degrees above freezing during the afternoon especially over se WI. Overall, more snow for pcpn type nw of MSN to more rain over se WI. Nly winds and low level cold advection will eventually cool temps enough for a transition to snow. As the system moves away Mon eve, a loss of ice crystals occurs due to a dry slot, thus light freezing rain or freezing drizzle may occur. In summary, light ice and snow accum is forecast with this system but the ensemble runs suggest wide ranging possibilities of snow accum. If a deeper low can occur, more snowfall would be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMB443 Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Mkx disxo... doesn't sound promising to me? Temps will rise a few degrees above freezing during the afternoon especially over se WI. Overall, more snow for pcpn type nw of MSN to more rain over se WI. Nly winds and low level cold advection will eventually cool temps enough for a transition to snow. As the system moves away Mon eve, a loss of ice crystals occurs due to a dry slot, thus light freezing rain or freezing drizzle may occur. In summary, light ice and snow accum is forecast with this system but the ensemble runs suggest wide ranging possibilities of snow accum. If a deeper low can occur, more snowfall would be expected.I saw that too - I wonder if they are hedging their bets after that last “storm” where they issued a Winter Storm Warning for half an inch of snow. Playing it safer on this one perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just being cautious Phasing système give models nightmares. Really won’t know what happens until things start developing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 The 12z ICON just caved to the weak/east GFS. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Both NAM’s show the heaviest snow band right where the EPS has its heaviest snow mean across S/C WI. I’d be very surprised if both the Euro & Ukie back off and cave towards the other models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Gfs was a little bit better than previous runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Maybe your area but garbage everywhere else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 GEM took a step towards the ukie/Euro Ukie looks similar to 0z pressure wise etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 This is looking like some light rain followed by a sloppy inch at the end for my area. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 12z Ukie looks like a decent hit from E IA into S/C WI from GRB on south...MKE may be a close call... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Ukie looks strong but looks to be mostly rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 How is it up this way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 I'm actively rooting against this one. Last thing I need is a repeat of yesterday's driving conditions across Iowa. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 How is it up this way?Looking at the 540mb thickness, it looks mainly snow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Disregard my comment on the Ukie, I was somehow looking at a previous model run. QPF is still high, 850s are cold enough to support snow, but it's almost impossible to tell for sure when/where the rain to snow line will setup or when a change to snow would happen. Potential is there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 QPF http://img.meteocentre.com/models/ukmet_amer_12/P1_GZ_D5_PN_060_0000.gif 850s http://img.meteocentre.com/models/ukmet_amer_12/TT_GZ_UU_VV_060_0850.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 I'm actively rooting against this one. Last thing I need is a repeat of yesterday's driving conditions across Iowa.31st is also a big travel day for me, coming back to Lincoln. Flying out of Memphis where there's supposed to be rain and storms and then a layover at MSP where it's gonna snow. Hooray Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 12z GEFS looked a bit better for snow potential across S/C WI... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Euro looks a lot like ukie at 48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Still plenty of swings and misses among the 12z GEFS. Still very northern stream dominant. Pretty crazy how different the models are with an event that is within 60 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Euro looks like 4-8 for most of southern WI and 2-4 for NE Iowa Not much elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Radar Simulation at 7 pm https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/2018122912/usa/base-reflectivity/20190101-0100z.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Looks like 2-4" from Iowa City to Waterloo and points to the east and north in Iowa. heaviest snow is in S. WI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Well at least the king is still showing it. I just hope I dont get missed to the east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Euro QPF https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/2018122912/wisconsin/acc-precipitation-snow-total/20190101-1900z.html Snow depth https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/2018122912/wisconsin/snow-depth-in/20190101-0500z.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Madison and Milwaukee look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Well, the euro is headed in the right direction. About 0.30" qpf worth of snow is the best run so far for Cedar Rapids. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 I'm satisfied with 2-4" on the Euro the way this winter is going. If it changes over to snow here just a tad quicker amounts could go up by another couple inches. QPF is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Crazy seeing the models so far apart 2 days away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Of course, even if we do manage to scrape a few inches out of this, it'll be gone in a week. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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