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February 2019 Snow Event - Part 2

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:39 PM

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Anyways, silver lining, the sky looks so beautiful today. I’ll try to take a picture, but the clouds are a dark blue/grayish and the wind is quite fierce.
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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:40 PM

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This week's forecast sucks big huge and hairy balls for the Portland area.
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:41 PM

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This week's forecast sucks big huge and hairy balls for the Portland area.


Surprise, surprise.

"Let's mosey!"

 

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:44 PM

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Very unrepresentative of the overall region in NW OR and SW WA. Places even 5 miles west, north, and south of PDX had less than half of their total last night.

I had 0.7" with the first event and 1.3" this morning, and I average almost twice what PDX does.


Two inches beyond what you thought was even remotely possible two weeks ago.
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:45 PM

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It really was the SSW, which was preconditioned by the combination of low solar and a favorable QBO/cycle of shear stress. This would have been nearly impossible during solar maximum (would have been a 2014/15 or 2002/03 repeat).

The SSW took on a bizarre wave-3 configuration that prolonged the -NAM downwell which affected both the extratropical wavetrains and tropical forcing over a period of 7+ weeks.

So, SSW beats Niño.

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Thanks, Phil. Always appreciate your insight.  So are SSW events at all predictable going into a winter?  I thought I read somewhere that we have had 2 in the last 5 years but not many previous to that.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:48 PM

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Any hope for a deformation band? Anything at all?


"Let's mosey!"

 

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:48 PM

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This week's forecast sucks big huge and hairy balls for the Portland area.


Seasonably cool for the valley.

At this point EUG is better than 15-16 but worse than 05-06 even at this point 😬

Reminds me of 1996 where we were cool for a bit but nothing notable.

Hopefully will have the opportunity to move to Indiana in the coming year. Will be able to rest easy not worrying about not seeing snow anymore.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 19-20 Stats:

Coldest high: 34 (Nov 30)
Coldest low: 20 (Nov 29)
Days with below freezing temps: 34 (Most recent: Jan 17)

Days with sub-40F highs: 1 (Most recent: Nov 30)
Total snowfall: 0.0"

Last accumulating snowfall (grass): February 27, 2019
Last accumulating snowfall (roads): February 27, 2019
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31F)
Last White Christmas: 1990

Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

 

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Last accumulating snowfall (grass): February 27, 2019

Last accumulating snowfall (roads): February 27, 2019
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)
Last White Christmas: 2008

Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:49 PM

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Any hope for a deformation band? Anything at all?

last hrrr took it away. But you never know
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:50 PM

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Two inches beyond what you thought was even remotely possible two weeks ago.

 

Not really the point, but sure.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:55 PM

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Onset?

 

Seems to warm up at the end of the snow event which starts Monday night.   That is a warm front.   ECMWF shows 4 or 5 inches of snow in the Seattle area on Monday night but then low 40s on Tuesday with some lingering precip.    But looks generally dry by afternoon.     And then dry through Wednesday as well.

 

So I would say Sunday - Tuesday morning will be nuts.    

 

A few different scenarios are still on the table for Mon night-Tue night. All depends on the exact track and strength of the low.

 

If it shifts a little bit further south, Portland will be buried. If it shifts a bit north, Seattle could see a mix and northern WA/southern BC get buried.

 

There's still time for both of these things to happen. We've seen it happen many times before within 48 hours.


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Low. Solar.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:57 PM

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A few different scenarios are still on the table for Mon night-Tue night. All depends on the exact track and strength of the low.

 

If it shifts a little bit further south, Portland will be buried. If it shifts a bit north, Seattle could see a mix and northern WA/southern BC get buried.

 

There's still time for both of these things to happen. We've seen it happen many times before within 48 hours.

 

These lows always trend north, and no model shows it coming even remotely close to shifting southward enough. Maybe next week something big will happen here.


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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:58 PM

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A few different scenarios are still on the table for Mon night-Tue night. All depends on the exact track and strength of the low.

If it shifts a little bit further south, Portland will be buried. If it shifts a bit north, Seattle could see a mix and northern WA/southern BC get buried.

There's still time for both of these things to happen. We've seen it happen many times before within 48 hours.


Most models showing both a significant snow event for Seattle and a little warm up relatively speaking.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:59 PM

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But who knows... things are very fluid right now.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:00 PM

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These lows always trend north, and no model shows it coming even remotely close to shifting southward enough. Maybe next week something big will happen here.

 

Actually, the latest ICON shifted the low significantly south and weaker. So there's one.  :)


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Low. Solar.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:00 PM

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18Z FV3 says no warm up Tuesday.
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:01 PM

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Actually, the latest ICON shifted the low significantly south and weaker. So there's one.  :)

 

Alright, just a sliver of hope. Maybe we could see a trend....?


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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:02 PM

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18Z FV3 says no warm up Tuesday.


But no warm up would mean less SEA snow?

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:03 PM

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But no warm up would mean less SEA snow?


Not on that run. Tons of snow.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:04 PM

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But no warm up would mean less SEA snow?

 

It's fine. You have a ton on the ground, and it's practically a lock that you will see at least a few more inches this upcoming week.


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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:04 PM

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My wife and daughter in search of snow for grandson to play in. Told them just to head to east county

She took this shot looking west on 205 bridge with the snow showers in background

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Layman’s terms please 😁

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:09 PM

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Currently @ 38.4F here. Warmed up a lot more then i thought today.

 

Must be the downsloping with the strong northerly component to this; places directly in the outflow have remained relatively cold. The cold air that does make it to the Strait is going south into the Puget Sound, so there's no significant source of outflow up there right now.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:11 PM

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Tomorrow may end up the most impressively cold day of this event for many people. Clearing skies tonight, deep snow cover (at least in the Puget Sound region), and then clouding up tomorrow afternoon to help cap temps.


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Low. Solar.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:12 PM

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I just went to Safeway.    Down a big hill too.    No problem.

 

Wish I had stocked up in preparation for being trapped for 2 months like everyone in Seattle.    :lol:



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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:13 PM

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Not really the point, but sure.


Perspective. We were due to spend some time on the outside looking in. 13-14 and 16-17 were mean.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:14 PM

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Still lots of cold cloud tops north and east of PDX.  I won't give up hope on some wrap around yet.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:15 PM

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Snowing in Eugene. I’m sure it will be done in about an hour when I get back to town 😂

Springfield, Oregon cold season 19-20 Stats:

Coldest high: 34 (Nov 30)
Coldest low: 20 (Nov 29)
Days with below freezing temps: 34 (Most recent: Jan 17)

Days with sub-40F highs: 1 (Most recent: Nov 30)
Total snowfall: 0.0"

Last accumulating snowfall (grass): February 27, 2019
Last accumulating snowfall (roads): February 27, 2019
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31F)
Last White Christmas: 1990

Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

 

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Last accumulating snowfall (grass): February 27, 2019

Last accumulating snowfall (roads): February 27, 2019
Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)
Last White Christmas: 2008

Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:18 PM

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I just went to Safeway.    Down a big hill too.    No problem.
 
Wish I had stocked up in preparation for being trapped for 2 months like everyone in Seattle.    :lol:

If that fv3 run verified it would cause some issues for sure. TON of snow and the way things have been going it might happen.

We come from the land of the ice and snow.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:18 PM

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Anyways, silver lining, the sky looks so beautiful today. I’ll try to take a picture, but the clouds are a dark blue/grayish and the wind is quite fierce.


Another silver lining is that law of averages suggests it will balance out for the rest of the region the longer this pattern remains locked in place.
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:21 PM

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Very cold day here with a steady 15mph breeze and a high of 29.

We come from the land of the ice and snow.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:21 PM

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Must be the downsloping with the strong northerly component to this; places directly in the outflow have remained relatively cold. The cold air that does make it to the Strait is going south into the Puget Sound, so there's no significant source of outflow up there right now.


EC just issued a special weather statement for the snow tomorrow. That's our kiss of death.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:24 PM

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24 hours of strong outflow wind now, with probably another 12 before this eases up. Somehow wev'e managed to keep out power on with only a few flickers.
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:24 PM

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Koin6 is going balls to the wall on plenty of wraparound and the deformation band leaking over from the east towards later this evening.  Been a consistent theme amongst the prognosticators today.  Could be better than last night for me if that happens :).

 

Edit:  Also, looking at the winter weather radar, it does look like all that stuff over in the gorge and central washington is creeping west.   Keep our fingers crossed.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:25 PM

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Thanks, Phil. Always appreciate your insight. So are SSW events at all predictable going into a winter? I thought I read somewhere that we have had 2 in the last 5 years but not many previous to that.


To a limited extent they are, in that you can say that they’re more likely to occur in certain winters and at certain times during said winters. However, timing them precisely (and predicting their specific effects and behaviors) is very difficult if not impossible until they’re already underway.
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:26 PM

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Winter Storm Watch in place from Sunday Afternoon - Late Tuesday Night


This one was put up literally at the heel of the last Winter Storm Warning.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:27 PM

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Koin6 is going balls to the wall on plenty of wraparound and the deformation band leaking over from the east towards later this evening.  Been a consistent theme amongst the prognosticators today.  Could be better than last night for me if that happens :).

 

Edit:  Also, looking at the winter weather radar, it does look like all that stuff over in the gorge and central washington is creeping west.   Keep our fingers crossed.

 

That band seems quite intense as well...


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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:28 PM

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Deformity!!!

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:29 PM

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18z Euro totals through 7AM Monday...

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:29 PM

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Alright, there's another silver lining to this week. No one from Puget Sound will (at least, should) never complain about 1/10/17 again. That event will be like a footnote in a week like what is forecasted. A tiny speck among colossi.


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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.


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Totals through 4PM Tuesday...

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:30 PM

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If that fv3 run verified it would cause some issues for sure. TON of snow and the way things have been going it might happen.

 

Gotta keep in mind the FV3's tendency to overdo precip, though.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:31 PM

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Totals through 4PM Tuesday...

 

Do you mind panning it down a little?


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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:34 PM

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18z Euro totals through 7AM Monday...


Why are the totals so low around Victoria?

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:34 PM

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Winter Storm Watch in place from Sunday Afternoon - Late Tuesday Night
This one was put up literally at the heel of the last Winter Storm Warning.


Quite surprised with this honestly. I figured they would post a WWA for tomorrow night and wait longer on the Monday/Tuesday system.

Must be pretty confident.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:36 PM

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18z Euro totals through 7AM Monday...

 

Redemption for Bellingham.

 

Looks like it might be decent for Portland area, too?


Low. Solar.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:37 PM

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I think I'll make a Part III and IV event combined thread. 


Finn Hill, elevation: 460 ft
2018 moisture: 41.76", 2019: 23.62", 9/23

 

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

Weather station/wx cam:
http://map.bloomsky....qBxp6apnJSnqqm2

https://www.wundergr...OTHE144#history


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:37 PM

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Do you mind panning it down a little?


By 7AM Tuesday...

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:38 PM

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Seattle AFD:

 

inter-like pattern will remain in place for the foreseeable
future as a long wave trough dominates the synoptic pattern.
Several opportunities for winter weather are likely this upcoming
week, beginning tomorrow with a quick round of accumulating snow
and another, potentially stronger, system moving through Monday
and Tuesday. Another round of winter weather will be monitored
late in the week.

&&

.SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/...
A very active short term period is in store for western
Washington as another round of winter weather is expected.

A 00z synoptic scale analysis reveals a broad area of cyclonic
flow extending from northern Canada into the Northwestern US. A
closed area of low pressure can be found embedded within this
larger scale trough. This closed low was responsible for a rather
significant winter storm across western Washington
yesterday/last night. It will continue to migrate well south of
the area through the overnight hours. Radar imagery confirmed that
most of the snow activity has diminished across the CWA, with
really only a few light, weakening echoes present. Satellite
imagery and a simple glance out the office window even reveal some
peeks of sun across the area, a welcomed sight after the storm.
Sun did little in the way of warming temps this afternoon with
most locations stuck in the upper 20s to low 30s. Given snow pack
and clearing skies, temps will be cold tonight with lows in the
teens. Winds will be on their way down but conditions will still
be breezy with wind chills in the single digits for many. Whatcom
County will likely see wind chills just below zero.

Dry and cold conditions will greet us tomorrow morning. The cold
will stay with us but the dry conditions will give way to the
beginning of another long round of winter weather for western
Washington. Given the stubborn long wave pattern in place, yet
another shortwave trough will approach western Washington Sunday
afternoon. It will track just along the interior of the BC
coastline with associated sfc low across Vancouver Is into the
nearby offshore waters of the northern Washington Coast. This
system will have no problem picking up Pacific moisture as it
dives into the local area. This means the development of
precipitation and given the cold temps /high temps near freezing
tomorrow given deep snowpack/, as you might guess, the precip
will be in the form of snow. Snow will push from coastal and
northwest parts of the CWA tomorrow afternoon and move E/SE
through the evening and into the overnight hours. This will be a
fast moving system but nonetheless a decent snow producer. The
track appears slightly further north than original trends so have
included snow accumulation mainly from Mt Vernon south. Given the
quick moving nature have included a quick pickup of an additional
1 to 3 inches tomorrow for most within its path. As always,
slight error in the official track of the system may result in
accumulation further north or south. But we emphasize for most
locations to plan for a few more inches of snow by day's end
tomorrow.

Then....as if we haven't had enough comes a much more concerning
system quickly on the heels of Sunday system. By very early
Monday morning, a low will dive down from Aleutian Islands,
carrying with it plenty of Pacific moisture. Moisture will spread
rapidly across the area from south to north through the day on
Monday. Given continued cold air in place, it appears it would be
hard to get air to modify enough for it not fall as snow. Snow
potential looks likely Monday for much of the area though do think
areas along the coast may see rain or rain/snow mix. Late Monday
into Tuesday the system will then move east, with indication of
enhanced precip across portions of the area with the low slow to
exit the area. Could see a period of heavy snowfall Monday night
into Tuesday. Not really going into details with snow amounts at
this time but there is the potential to see similar snow amounts
to what we have seen with the previous two storms. This is
something to watch closely. Despite low confidence in amounts and
the locations that will see the highest amounts, have issued a
Winter Storm Watch for the entire area highlighting both systems
/Sunday system and Monday-Tuesday system/, since they occur so
close to one another where combined snow totals from each one
could approach Advisory or Warning levels. Time will tell. At this
point it is best to pay attention to forecast updates over the
next 24 hours as details regarding this system become more clear.

Kovacik

.LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/...
The local area looks to see a brief break in precip Wednesday
before the potential for yet another system, possibly wintry,
Thursday into Friday. Moisture could then linger through the
weekend. Still no real promising sign of a pattern change in the
next 2 weeks. This is my first winter in western Washington-does
Spring exist here?

 



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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:38 PM

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By 7AM Tuesday...

 

Wow, that's actually a lot better than I expected. Then again, it probably included what fell yesterday (or what was supposed to fall yesterday, that is).


"Let's mosey!"

 

--Cloud Strife

 

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:38 PM

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So true, PDX does have one of the trashiest climates in the country. At least Puget Sound is close to cold air and has the convergence zone.

You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree strongly.  Except for the lack of cold and snow, it is a very good climate.  No humidity to speak of, great summers.  For many of US that are outdoor enthusiasts there is more than ample opportunity for a vast variety of experiences.  Obviously you don't get out much.   I doubt you've ever climbed any kind mountain or hill.  Ever rafta river, or hiked mountains and river trails..  Summers most of the time are very pleasant.  Last summer was a bit warm but most are great.  Falls are magnificent.  Rain can get a little tedious but if you're not doing any of the above mentioned outside activities then you wouldn't even notice.  I doubt you ever get out much to even experience the richness of this state.  What an utterly ridiculous statement. 


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:38 PM

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At any rate it’s a chilly wind...

All roads lead to Walgreens.  






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