Tom Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Is Spring finally going to arrive??? Seems like its been ages ago we have seen a streak of 60's around these parts with many cities in this region having yet to hit 65F, let alone 60F, which is rather dismal. I think this changes as we open up the first week of the month and my target dates centered around the 6th/7th will play out pretty well. Overall, I'm starting to feel that this month will feature a very volatile month and that sustained ridging won't be as common as the CFSv2 is illustrating, esp across the northern Sub. I do feel there will be plenty of storm induced warm spells but if the blocking sets up in the longer range (which is starting to show more signs of doing so), it may mitigate how long these warm spells may last. Unfortunately, these late season blocks wreck havoc on the models to try and figure out so we'll just have to wait and see how this all plays out. The LRC pattern suggests the active pattern should continue throughout this month and systems are lining up during the 1st couple weeks with a lot of precip across the heartland. I'm really concerned for the ag belt region as it may be a season where planting is delayed again this year with wet/cold soils. Storm chasers will be gearing up for their chases this month and I'm highlighting the S Plains/MW/OV this month. I"m thinking the central Plains on north will escape the worst of the Severe Wx this month. Let's discuss... Trends for precip/temps off the CFSv2.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Jim Flowers did a severe weather video yesterday he said the bulk of severe weather won't arrive until July for Nebraska. Not sure if that will play out but that is a big delay if it does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Jim Flowers did a severe weather video yesterday he said the bulk of severe weather won't arrive until July for Nebraska. Not sure if that will play out but that is a big delay if it does.Gotta say I disagree with him here. Looking like a slightly above average April. Bring some moisture into that going into May and boom, severe wx. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Gotta say I disagree with him here. Looking like a slightly above average April. Bring some moisture into that going into May and boom, severe wx.While I don't disagree the temperature profile is looking weak and the low level jet is looking to far south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 The extent of the warmth around the 6th/7th period is looking transient as high lat blocking is noticeable now among the various models. My fears of the CFSv2 long range warm signals are beginning to fade slowly. Tonight's Euro weeklies should be interesting to see if this Greenland Block pops or not Week 2 and how long it lasts this month. Doesn't it seem like these late season blocks seem to always show up in the worst ill-timed Spring months??? Nonetheless, a very active/wet pattern is shaping up during the first half of April across the Sub Forum. The latest JMA weeklies for the Week 2 period are looking simlar to the EPS and developing a hooking ridge over the top of the lower 48 that'll keep the storm in tact. The question remains, how warm does it truly get??? http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/model/map/1mE/map1/img/R07_2/Y201903.D2712_gl0.png Week 2 temps... http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/model/map/1mE/map1/img/R07_2/Y201903.D2712_gl2.png Week 3-4... http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/model/map/1mE/map1/img/R14_3/Y201903.D2712_gl0.png Temps...suggesting the cooler temps come back...ughhh.... http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/model/map/1mE/map1/img/R14_3/Y201903.D2712_gl2.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositiveNao Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Looks much better than last year that's for sure. First week actually looks above average, though I predict temps will finish within a degree of normal in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 We looking to bake an sizzle in April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 We looking to bake an sizzle in AprilGood. Let's get it over with early rather than baking and sizzling in July and August, when we REALLY bake and sizzle. 4 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Finally, I'm beginning to see some consistency among the models that the period between the 6th-11th we see an end to the yo-yo pattern and flourish into REAL Spring by next weekend. Many places will see a string of 60's and likely 70's in the Plains states when this ridge blossoms. I'm glad to see the long standing idea coming more into fruition that sensible warmth is on the horizon. This back and forth pattern is getting old around here and these 1-2 day bouts of warmth are just that...a nice tease of Spring. Who's ready for a nice Spring torch??? There is a big ticket storm on deck during the 10th-12th period coming out of the S Plains into the heartland of the nation. I'm reluctant to say, but this could be a big heavy precip producer where we don't need it. Let's see how this pattern evolves in the coming days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKEKC Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Snowing in KC this morning following 1-2 inches of rain which we did not need. We have a complex of ball fields that we take care of that are still under water from the river flooding. League play opens in 3 weeks, not sure if this park will be ready. Hopefully April will be warmer with more gaps in the rainfall. This upcoming week looks much warmer then it has been. Everything greened up quickly down here. Nothing has bloomed yet so the hard freeze tonight won’t matter too much. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Hopefully, we bake and sizzle in July and August. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Chilly weekend with temps in the high 50's. Low tonight 38-40*Currently it's cloudy, gusty winds. You can tell that Spring is on full throttle. A flock of robins met me this morning in the yard and golf course. They're on their way. The new yellow green leaves waving against the dark clouds are just gorgeous with a speck of sun on occasion. Brace yourself. It's Spring! 2 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Hopefully, we bake and sizzle in July and August. You can always vacation in Texas if you don't!! 3 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Hopefully, we bake and sizzle in July and August. No thanks, I don't need $200 electric bills like I had last year. 2 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 You can always vacation in Texas if you don't!!Or Europe 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 No thanks, I don't need $200 electric bills like I had last year.Same here. When I used to live in NYC, I used to pay 400 or more a month. Crazy! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Holy smoke. Why so high? We don’t even get that in 100*+ in Texas. By the way.......any thoughts on how many 100* days we’ll see down here ??? Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Another ugly, chilly, slow moving and wet system is taking aim mid/late week across the same regions week that saw heavy rains over the past couple of days. The storm parade doesn't stop there as the models have systems traversing the heartland every 2-3 days which is in-line with the LRC. A more interesting storm is on my calendar during the 10th-12th period that should come out of the SW into the S Plains/MS region. There is some strong indication that blocking will have immersed across the north and could spell more wintry trouble for some folks across the northern tier of the Sub. Before then though, I sure hope the Euro is right as its advertising upper 60's/low 70's across a lot of the Plains/MW/GL's next weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 A combination of a -AO/-NAO could spell trouble for the Week 2 forecast as models struggle with the development of high lat blocking. Not only that but I see some discouraging trends that a piece of the Stratospheric Vortex may park its self in western Canada during the Day 10-15 period. Taking a gander at the 00z GEFS, this map below suggests Cross Polar flow some time after Day 10 and its a trend that is not our friend for Spring enthusiasts. This would be an anomalous and unusual pattern to see transpire in April. Wait, didn't we see something similar last April??? #SolarMinimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 This pattern appears to be active, but as these storms approach the region they are fading into a bit of light rain. I've only received 0.32" of precip over the last two weeks. The midweek system is trending south, just like the last one. Last night's euro barely drops anything here. We may have to wait til mid month to see anything decent. We could use a nice downpour to wash away all the sand. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositiveNao Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Always favor the Euro over the GFS, any time of the year in any pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Always favor the Euro over the GFS, any time of the year in any pattern.I agree, and it's not looking warm Week 1-2...heck of a lot different that the GEFS in this pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Every run of the euro is weaker and farther south with the midweek system. The euro now has zero precip here Tuesday from the weak clipper and also zero precip with the formerly-solid midweek system. The system a week from now will probably fade to nothing, too. On the plus side, the new euro has mid to upper 60s from Sat-Tue. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Our forum pal Phil, retweeted a comment on his Twitter account from someone he follows. Thought I'd toss his comments out for comment. "Sub-seasonal and ENSO variability suggest that the Southern Plains are likely to be quite wet in April into May. Texas and Oklahoma especially." Paul Roundy. Saturday, March 30 Thoughts? 1 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Our forum pal Phil, retweeted a comment on his Twitter account from someone he follows. Thought I'd toss his comments out for comment. "Sub-seasonal and ENSO variability suggest that the Southern Plains are likely to be quite wet in April into May. Texas and Oklahoma especially." Paul Roundy. Saturday, March 30 Thoughts?Wejjes. Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Good morning all! Who's already looking forward to the weekend?? Now, this is a weekend forecast I've been looking for quite some time....Chitown will be buzzin'....I'm just hoping that sneaky wave from the southern Plains doesn't ruin the parade to top 70F for the first time this season on Sunday around here. This weekend should feel wonderful with full sun and southerly flow. I'm starting to see spotty green patches on my lawn which is trending in the right direction. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 After our weekend torch that bleeds into early next week, the fun stops right there as we enter an anomalous blocking pattern across the Arctic and esp near Greenland. We haven't seen the models this excited about advertising blocking since way back in the Fall of last year. It seems like in recent years, as the jet weakens, we see these late season blocking patterns more and more often. Is it a sign of the times in years ahead??? Too early to say, but its becoming very noticeable. With that being said, I think the CFSv2 is going to bust big for Week 2 and the EPS has the right idea. Major cold shot for late in the season is poised to center itself right across the Plains/MW states starting right around the 10th when I expect the next big ticket storm to develop across the TX Pan Handle region. Back-to-Back SW storms??? Yes, about a couple days later we should see another potentially strong storm coming out of the SW during the 14th-16th period. This pattern is going to ramp up and deliver quite a wet pattern. #Spring....To Be continued....somewhere, sometime in the near future... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 This ain't no April fools joke as there is still quite an impressive snow pack across the Northwoods as we begin April. Meantime, it's another cold morning around here (26F) with clear skies as daylight begins to emerge. Sun rises are becoming noticeably earlier each week. I'm just imagining what a difference it will feel like this weekend immersed in 60F+ temps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 This ain't no April fools joke as there is still quite an impressive snow pack across the Northwoods as we begin April.When I was in Fargo last week it was still 2' deep in some spots. Near nothing around Duluth/Superior, though. I'm sure it's gone down considerably since I left there about a week ago. 2 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Yeah weekend looks great. Definitely gonna take advantage of that and get some stuff done outdoors. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 When I was in Fargo last week it was still 2' deep in some spots. Near nothing around Duluth/Superior, though. I'm sure it's gone down considerably since I left there about a week ago.Here is the snow on the ground as of Friday AM in Michigan: 38" 5 miles west of Michigamme, 37" Painesdale, 28" Munising, 27" Calumet, 26" Kearsarge, Herman, 24" S. Ste. Marie, Marquette, 22" Newberry, 21" Champion, Houghton, 20" Atlantic Mine, 16" Moran, 14" Covington, Garden Corners, 13" Harvey, Gladstone and Parent Bay, 12" Watersmeet, 11" El Jordan, Paulding, Jacobsville, Watton and Ishpeming, 10" Mancelona, Manistique, 9" Lewiston, Amasa, Green Garden, 8" St. Ignace, 7" Gaylord, Ironwood, Stambaugh, Norway and Stonington, 5" Chatham, 3" Escanaba, 2" Charlevoix, Maple City and Onaway, 1" Mio and Alpena. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Now that we are in April here is a preliminary March wrap for west Michigan. At Grand Rapids the mean was 32.2° that is a departure of -3.4° the highest for the month was 61 on the 28th the lowest for the month was +8° on the 8th the maximum of 14° was the 2nd coldest maximum for that date. There was 7.9” of snow fall (average is 8.3”) the most on the ground was 6” While the ground has been mostly snow free since mid month there are still a lot of parking lot snow piles around the area. The total precip for March was 2.23” (2.37” is average) there were 8 clear days 12 partly cloudy days and 11 cloudy days.At Muskegon the mean was 31.8° that is a departure of -3.2° the highest there was 61 on the 14th and the lowest was 6 on the on the 8th snow fall there was 5.2” (9.0” is average) the most on the ground was 5” precip for the month was 3.19” (2.25” is average) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 After our weekend torch that bleeds into early next week, the fun stops right there as we enter an anomalous blocking pattern across the Arctic and esp near Greenland. We haven't seen the models this excited about advertising blocking since way back in the Fall of last year. It seems like in recent years, as the jet weakens, we see these late season blocking patterns more and more often. Is it a sign of the times in years ahead??? Too early to say, but its becoming very noticeable. With that being said, I think the CFSv2 is going to bust big for Week 2 and the EPS has the right idea. Major cold shot for late in the season is poised to center itself right across the Plains/MW states starting right around the 10th when I expect the next big ticket storm to develop across the TX Pan Handle region. Back-to-Back SW storms??? Yes, about a couple days later we should see another potentially strong storm coming out of the SW during the 14th-16th period. This pattern is going to ramp up and deliver quite a wet pattern. #Spring....To Be continued....somewhere, sometime in the near future...Cpc not showing that blocking but I do like what the eps is showing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 After our weekend torch that bleeds into early next week, the fun stops right there as we enter an anomalous blocking pattern across the Arctic and esp near Greenland. We haven't seen the models this excited about advertising blocking since way back in the Fall of last year. It seems like in recent years, as the jet weakens, we see these late season blocking patterns more and more often. Is it a sign of the times in years ahead??? Too early to say, but its becoming very noticeable. With that being said, I think the CFSv2 is going to bust big for Week 2 and the EPS has the right idea. Major cold shot for late in the season is poised to center itself right across the Plains/MW states starting right around the 10th when I expect the next big ticket storm to develop across the TX Pan Handle region. Back-to-Back SW storms??? Yes, about a couple days later we should see another potentially strong storm coming out of the SW during the 14th-16th period. This pattern is going to ramp up and deliver quite a wet pattern. #Spring....To Be continued....somewhere, sometime in the near future...The last two weeks managed to finish above average in this parts even with the weekend "cold shot". I would expect the yoyo to continue with warmth skewing averages above normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 The last two weeks managed to finish above average in this parts even with the weekend "cold shot". I would expect the yoyo to continue with warmth skewing averages above normal.It’s been BN over here the last couple weeks. You guys did better the father NW. I’m not to thrilled the way the pattern looks at this point next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 It’s been BN over here the last couple weeks. You guys did better the father NW. I’m not to thrilled the way the pattern looks at this point next week.I see a yo yo week with the warm start having larger departures than the cool end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositiveNao Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 It’s been BN over here the last couple weeks. You guys did better the father NW. I’m not to thrilled the way the pattern looks at this point next week.Been pretty normal in the Chicago area for the last two weeks. Def not cold by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositiveNao Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 I think March 2012 screwed up people's perceptions on how a normal spring should be. The past few springs (other than last year) have been very normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Been pretty normal in the Chicago area for the last two weeks. Def not cold by any means.This time of year, below normal doesn't necessarily mean cold anymore. I know here, a high of 55 is below normal this time of year now. 3 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 I think March 2012 screwed up people's perceptions on how a normal spring should be. The past few springs (other than last year) have been very normal.Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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