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April 2019 Weather Discussion in the PNW

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Posted 30 March 2019 - 09:20 PM

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Since the start of April is showing several regional rainstorms, let's give this thread a one-day head start.

 

Anyone excited to forecast some rain?


2018 in Portland had 27.30" rainfall, which is the 8th driest year on record and 8.73" below normal

 

Current rainfall for PDX in 2019 is 14.15”, which is 5.31” below normal as of July 13


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Posted 31 March 2019 - 06:33 AM

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It’s March 31st.

All roads lead to Walgreens.  


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Posted 31 March 2019 - 02:35 PM

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April showers bring May showers, which bring June showers til the 4th of July.

 

Except not anymore, because...the new normal.


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Coldest high: 34 (Feb 25)
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 12:00 AM

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March recap for SEA. First half was cool and second half was warm. The first 2 weeks was part of the 40 days below normal stretch and ended with 18 consecutive days of above normal temps( highlighted by several near missed 80F days). In terms of precip, well below normal. Ended up with 1.37” of rain, which is a good 2.5” below normal. For the year, SEA is now about -3” in deficit.

Overall, March was very pleasant.

Expecting a different April though, at least the 1st half. It will probably be quite wet at times. Which I’m looking forward to.
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 12:32 AM

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April showers bring May showers, which bring June showers til the 4th of July.

Except not anymore, because...the new normal.

Did you already forget about February?

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 07:42 AM

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The rain is staying a bit further south this morning.  Waking up to partly sunny skies and mild temps.



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Posted 01 April 2019 - 08:19 AM

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Did you already forget about February?


I think the concern is that our climate did too.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 08:50 AM

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Gorgeous morning in Skykomish!
Still a small pile of snow on the other side of the river.

Edit: On second thought...this looks too much like a disgusting sterile golf course with a water hazard. Vomit.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 09:09 AM

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 09:14 AM

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Incredibly there are still a few small piles of plowed snow kicking around here in a few places.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 09:23 AM

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Backyard bloomage and greenage for anyone interested. All popped Saturday night/Sunday morning.

Cherry blossom in the front yard.

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Forsythia, Daffodils, Cherries.

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Bradford pears blooming across the roundabout.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 09:31 AM

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I think the concern is that our climate did too.


That's fair, we'll see what happens the rest of the season though. This upcoming week looks pretty chilly and wet. Let's see how it looks by mid May.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 09:32 AM

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This is interesting.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 09:34 AM

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Makes sense considered SEA experienced 3 seasons in one month.

Winter-like to start out the month
Summer-like during the middle
Spring-like and still warm to end the month

In all of this, very little precip
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 09:43 AM

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Oh yeah, Seattle actually was summer-like during the March heat wave. Portland was more May/June like.

Stations away from the Gorge like Hillsboro recorded higher temps.

PDX average was 56.6/36.7

2018 in Portland had 27.30" rainfall, which is the 8th driest year on record and 8.73" below normal

 

Current rainfall for PDX in 2019 is 14.15”, which is 5.31” below normal as of July 13


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 09:46 AM

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And on the topic of today, it’s 56 here. Rainy band has not approached yet.

2018 in Portland had 27.30" rainfall, which is the 8th driest year on record and 8.73" below normal

 

Current rainfall for PDX in 2019 is 14.15”, which is 5.31” below normal as of July 13


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 09:58 AM

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Oh yeah, Seattle actually was summer-like during the March heat wave. Portland was more May/June like.

Stations away from the Gorge like Hillsboro recorded higher temps.

PDX average was 56.6/36.7


Those upper 70s were a huge aberration. Would have been warm by July standards.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 10:54 AM

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Those upper 70s were a huge aberration. Would have been warm by July standards.V9Ecdie.jpg

To be fair, September is warmer than June on the West Coast, and this map doesn’t account for that. Would there be any major difference?

But yes, for Seattle standards, upper 70s is actually above normal in July. Not Portland, though. We’re not on the 50 degree pool of water.

2018 in Portland had 27.30" rainfall, which is the 8th driest year on record and 8.73" below normal

 

Current rainfall for PDX in 2019 is 14.15”, which is 5.31” below normal as of July 13


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 10:59 AM

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East wind kicked in here... mostly sunny and 66 now.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 11:05 AM

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Rain band continues to miss Portland... 60 here now.

2018 in Portland had 27.30" rainfall, which is the 8th driest year on record and 8.73" below normal

 

Current rainfall for PDX in 2019 is 14.15”, which is 5.31” below normal as of July 13


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 11:23 AM

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Home for lunch...Wall to wall sun and 62. Perfect!

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 12:03 PM

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Was expecting a cloudy day but it turns out to be very decent. Some filtered sunshine right now.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 12:09 PM

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Today’s rain. Awesome April Fool’s joke.

All roads lead to Walgreens.  


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 12:31 PM

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69 in North Bend and 63 at SEA right now.

 

Looks like lots of UHI out here today.      

 

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 12:56 PM

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69 in North Bend and 63 at SEA right now.

Looks like lots of UHI out here today.

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Been trying to explain this to some that doesn’t understand our microclimates since mid-March. Not denying UHI exists but the main contributor to our heatwave last month was due to the East wind component. Same as today, almost all the areas in the surrounding foothills are experiencing higher temperatures due to the East wind. The Puget Sound in general are spared of the winds today, thus seeing lower temps than in the foothills.

This is what microclimate does.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:00 PM

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Been trying to explain this to some that doesn’t understand our microclimates since mid-March. Not denying UHI exists but the main contributor to our heatwave last month was due to the East wind component. Same as today, almost all the areas in the surrounding foothills are experiencing higher temperatures due to the East wind. The Puget Sound in general are spared of the winds today, thus seeing lower temps than in the foothills.

This is what microclimate does.


UHI definitely impacts SEA. And geography impacts North Bend... often making it warmer out here (or colder). And that happens in all seasons.

But according to Phil... SEA is always the hottest spot in the region and the temp there is meaningless. That is just not true. If SEA is 20 degrees warmer than OLM on a morning with an east wind... then its still very meaningful and real and almost entirely related to geography and not UHI. I will still report the temp at SEA... people can subtract 1 or 2 degrees if they want to pretend its still the 1800s. ;)

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:10 PM

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69 in North Bend and 63 at SEA right now.

Looks like lots of UHI out here today.

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Dude. Let it go.
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:12 PM

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#notstressedatall

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:17 PM

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Dude. Let it go.

 

69 in North Bend... and the temp at SEA is overstated by at least 20 degrees due to UHI.

 

So the 63 at SEA is really 43... making it 26 degrees warmer out here at the same elevation as the summit of Mt. Rainier.     

 

Amazing day.     :wub:


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:20 PM

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69 in North Bend... and the temp at SEA is overstated by at least 20 degrees due to UHI.

So the 63 at SEA is really 43... making it 26 degrees warmer out here at the same elevation as the summit of Mt. Rainier.

Amazing day. :wub:


Now you’re just trolling.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:22 PM

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Now you’re just trolling.


Now?

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:23 PM

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Now you’re just trolling.

 

As does Phil... literally all the time.

 

He was really angry that I even mentioned that it was 79 at SEA a couple weeks ago... telling me to not even to recognize that horrific station.    

 

So subtract 2 degrees then... 77 is still a really warm day in the middle of March and that is all I was saying.   



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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:23 PM

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Now?


Now means making it way too obvious. It was a good run when he was semi-hiding the antics.
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:24 PM

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As does Phil... literally all the time.

He was really angry that I even mentioned that it was 79 at SEA a couple weeks ago... telling me to not even to recognize that horrific station.

So subtract 2 degrees then... 77 is still a really warm day in the middle of March and that is all I was saying.


Isn’t that what “let it go” is? Or should we call in Elsa?
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:26 PM

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Now means making it way too obvious. It was a good run when he was semi-hiding the antics.

 

 

Antics?   Hiding?

 

Saying there must be lots of UHI out here today is hiding my intentions?   :lol:

 

Phil can't stand the thought that it can actually be warm at SEA and many times even warmer out here.    

 

Nature trolls Phil all the time... 

 

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:31 PM

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Think that’s the third time those pics have been posted.

#notstressed@all
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:32 PM

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12Z EPS shows troughing across most of the country in the 10-15 day period:

 

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:33 PM

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Antics? Hiding?

Saying there must be lots of UHI out here today is hiding my intentions? :lol:

Phil can't stand the thought that it can actually be warm at SEA and many times even warmer out here.

Nature trolls Phil all the time...

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Dude. We get it, most of us that lived here all our lives understands the microclimates. Phil doesn’t even though he took a hardass stance in refusing to accept some of stuff that goes on.

Point is, there is no need to regurgitate stuff from 2 weeks back. It’s a new month, move on.

This will be my last response to this topic. Though it’s more likely than not you will respond some regurgitation.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:40 PM

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Dude. We get it, most of us that lived here all our lives understands the microclimates. Phil doesn’t even though he took a hardass stance in refusing to accept some of stuff that goes on.

Point is, there is no need to regurgitate stuff from 2 weeks back. It’s a new month, move on.
 

 

 

I am sure I will be trolled again very soon for not recognizing the UHI at SEA... even though I have said many times that it is real and exists.   I hope you call Phil out as well.    ^_^

 

In regard to the warm a couple weeks ago... on 3/19 the official high at SEA was 79 and at UIL (surrounded by rainforest) it was 81 that day.



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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:41 PM

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Some of the stuff posted on here today is beyond stupid.


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Snowfall

2018-19: 63.5"

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Some of the stuff posted on here today is beyond stupid.


Yep!!

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:55 PM

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Yep!!

 

I wish we could just talk about the weather without all getting butthurt due to our personal preferences. And then others could show some restraint at least when that invariably happens... 


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Snowfall

2018-19: 63.5"

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:56 PM

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I wish we could just talk about the weather without all getting butthurt due to our personal preferences. And then others could show some restraint at least when that invariably happens...


Are you getting any rain today?

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:58 PM

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Been in Seaside since yesterday, so glad today's system is falling apart, weather has been great!!
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 02:02 PM

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Wow...

No more NAM after August 31, 2019. ‘Bout time they put that ***** out to pasture.

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All roads lead to Walgreens.  


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 02:06 PM

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Are you getting any rain today?

 

It has been drizzling all day here in Salem. I doubt where I am there has been more than a couple hundredths. SLE has picked up 0.05" so far. 


Snowfall

2018-19: 63.5"

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 02:22 PM

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70 for a high so far in North Bend and 69 here.

 

Our cottonwoods are leafing out today.     



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Posted 01 April 2019 - 02:35 PM

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70 for a high so far in North Bend and 69 here.

 

Our cottonwoods are leafing out today.     

 

The cottonwoods leafed out in February back in 2015. 

 

Cottonwoods leafing out is not really a weather topic though. Perhaps a separate thread would suffice, especially since some find such posts especially triggering.


Snowfall

2018-19: 63.5"

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 02:39 PM

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The cottonwoods leafed out in February back in 2015. 

 

Cottonwoods leafing out is not really a weather topic though. Perhaps a separate thread would suffice, especially since some find such posts especially triggering.

 

 

Late March or early April seems about normal here.

 

Looks like they leafed out in early to mid March here in 2015... but that was really early.



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Posted 01 April 2019 - 02:46 PM

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Personally leafing out isn't my thing... opinions matter!