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#3401
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Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:33 PM

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Your point is all over the place.   
 
There is almost always an extended stretch of sunny, dry weather in late April or May at some point.   And usually periods of rainy weather as well.
 
Today was very close to normal.   The last 6 years have NOTHING to do with your inability to handle a normal late April day.    If you cannot handle doing exercise on a normal day then that is your problem... not nature's problem.   
 
You are mixing all kinds of things together... but the only unusual aspect about today was the extraordinarily low dewpoints which actually makes it feel a little cooler than it would otherwise.   ;)

Oh I was perfectly able to exercise today. I even did some core and upper body workouts after I cooled off. I'm in good shape.
And this extended stretch might be looked at a bit more normally if only it wasn't after such an event already happening in March and so many interspread throughout the past 6 years.
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Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:34 PM

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GFS shows some light rain on May 10th.


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 13.0" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:37 PM

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Oh I was perfectly able to exercise today. I even did some core and upper body workouts after I cooled off. I'm in good shape.
And this extended stretch might be looked at a bit more normally if only it wasn't after such an event already happening in March and so many interspread throughout the past 6 years.

 

Whew!

 

Thanks for the thrilling discussion about how miserable this normal late April day was... and how you were on the verge of heat exhaustion immediately upon walking out the door.   And how the weather years ago made today feel even warmer.     :lol:



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Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:42 PM

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Whew!
 
Thanks for the thrilling discussion about how miserable this normal late April day was... and how you were on the verge of heat exhaustion immediately upon walking out the door.   And how the weather years ago made today feel even warmer.     :lol:

Thank you for responding with serious demeanor throughout the discussion.
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Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:50 PM

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00Z GFS does not show all of May and June being hot and dry... strange turn of events.



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Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:53 PM

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00Z GFS does not show all of May and June being hot and dry... strange turn of events.


That's great news. That also really is strange going off of the past 6 years. Fingers crossed for at least normal.
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Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:56 PM

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That's great news. That also really is strange going off of the past 6 years. Fingers crossed for at least normal.

 

 

Yeah... its been a very hot year so far.  

 

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:58 PM

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You know the only thing more fatiguing than late April sun angles?


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:05 PM

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April will go down as the 11th time in 12 months that OLM has recorded below normal precip.


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:06 PM

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Yeah... its been a very hot year so far.

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Never said that. You're all over the place.
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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:07 PM

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April will go down as the 11th time in 12 months that OLM has recorded below normal precip.

 

 

SEA ended up well above normal... so did BLI.  

 

And the foothills and Cascades too.  



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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:10 PM

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Never said that. You're all over the place.

 

 

You truly are all over the place.   

 

But I did get a good quote to re-post when its 99 degrees in July.   ;)



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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:16 PM

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You truly are all over the place.

But I did get a good quote to re-post when its 99 degrees in July. ;)

Why would you repost that?
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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:22 PM

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I think April ended up 3rd wettest on record here. lol


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 13.0" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:23 PM

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SEA ended up well above normal... so did BLI.  

 

And the foothills and Cascades too.  

 

Duh. What's your point? Haven't you already pointed this out a few times?

 

And pretty much the entire region is well below normal for the past 12 months, so it's not like the OLM fact is completely out of left field.

 

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:32 PM

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Duh. What's your point? Haven't you already pointed this out a few times?

And pretty much the entire region is well below normal for the past 12 months, so it's not like the OLM fact is completely out of left field.

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You already posted this. ;)

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:35 PM

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No wonder today was so hot and miserable... another huge ridge.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:40 PM

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00z GFS shows rain at 234 hours.

I’ll believe it when I see it.
No rain here until Hour 258.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:43 PM

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Had to save this one for posterity.

 

You posted something almost exactly the same as this last April on a day when it was 66 degrees.   And I had to bring up again several times last summer when it was actually very hot.

 

I might have to do the same with this post... from a day that was probably in the upper 60s in your area with a dewpoint in the teens and that unbelievable late April sun angle here on the equator.     :lol:

 

Don't be mean :(

 

People tolerate your near constant complaining about the rain and overcast (in the winter) which is also climo, I might add, so there's really no need to do a 180 and start belittling people complaining about the opposite (whether it is climo or not).


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:46 PM

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Don't be mean :(

People tolerate your near constant complaining about the rain and overcast (in the winter) which is also climo, I might add, so there's really no need to do a 180 and start belittling people complaining about the opposite (whether it is climo or not).


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:50 PM

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You new here?

 

You know it's my first summer here on this forum- I've only heard rumors of the happenings that occur when the summer ridge begins to loom.


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:52 PM

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You know it's my first summer here on this forum- I've only heard rumors of the happenings that occur when the summer ridge begins to loom.

 

Better run, you better take cover.


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Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 13.0" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:52 PM

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Don't be mean :(

People tolerate your near constant complaining about the rain and overcast (in the winter) which is also climo, I might add, so there's really no need to do a 180 and start belittling people complaining about the opposite (whether it is climo or not).

I don't complain about rain much at all. I understand climo here. This is totally inaccurate.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 10:00 PM

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You already posted this. ;)

 

The OLM stat was new.  ;)


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 10:00 PM

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I don't complain about rain much at all. I understand climo here. This is totally inaccurate.


I don’t recall you complaining about rain much last winter, maybe because there wasn’t much rain to complain about anyway (there might have been in North Bend, however).

Clouds and rain in winter is one thing. A two week stretch of nearly constant overcast in April is an entirely different thing. The latter actually isn’t climo.
No rain here until Hour 258.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 11:05 PM

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Today might seem frigid by later next week if the ECMWF is right...

 

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 11:11 PM

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Today might seem frigid by later next week if the ECMWF is right...

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I should try to plant my tomatoes soon

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 05:56 AM

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EPS looks pretty zonal in the 10-15 day period.

 

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 06:41 AM

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It looks unsure.

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 09:56 AM

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I don't complain about rain much at all. I understand climo here. This is totally inaccurate.

This is such BULLSHIT Tim and you know it. 

Don't @ me bro


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:28 AM

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This is such BULLSHIT Tim and you know it. 

Don't @ me bro

 

 

Not bullshit in any way.

 

Show me examples in the last 6 months.   Or go back to Nov-Mar of last winter.   Or the winter before that.   Reporting on rain is not complaining.   Rain happens all the time... this is a weather forum.   

 

I do remember complaining about a lack of rain back in February and March.    I did not complain once about rain about rain before that... it was perfectly normal here in terms of total rain and days with rain.   

 

The only time I ever complain now are when things stray far from normal (even Jared agrees with this).   For example... I said that February was too cold... early April was too wet.    But I also said many times that both are going to happen at times and it is what it is.  



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Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:33 AM

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Not bullshit in any way.

Show me examples in the last 6 months. Or go back to Nov-Mar of last winter. Or the winter before that. Reporting on rain is not complaining. Rain happens all the time... this is a weather forum.

I do remember complaining about a lack of rain back in February and March. I did not complain once about rain about rain before that... it was perfectly normal here in terms of total rain and days with rain.

The only time I ever complain now are when things stray far from normal (even Jared agrees with this). For example... I said that February was too cold... early April was too wet. But I also said many times that both are going to happen at times and it is what it is.


I’m perfectly fine. I’m perfectly fine. I’m perfectly fine. Anyone got a Valium?

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:40 AM

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I’m perfectly fine. I’m perfectly fine. I’m perfectly fine. Anyone got a Valium?


Yeah... except that I don't complain about rain.   The only time I might complain at all is when it strays too far from climo either way.   That is a fact.   And even that is pointless.



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Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:41 AM

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Anyone have any popcorn?

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:42 AM

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Anyone have any popcorn?


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:43 AM

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Anyone have any popcorn?


In fact we do.

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 12:00 PM

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Total rain over the next 10 days per the 12Z ECMWF...

 

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 12:21 PM

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Total rain over the next 10 days per the 12Z ECMWF...
 
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April is over.
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Posted 01 May 2019 - 12:27 PM

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Total rain over the next 10 days per the 12Z ECMWF...

 

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I'm going to come home to a desert next week.


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 13.0" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 12:27 PM

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April is over.

 

 

Good point.   Hard to let go.   :)



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Posted 01 May 2019 - 12:27 PM

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Good point.   Hard to let go.   :)


Stop posting here now so we can keep it at 69 pages pls...
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Posted 01 May 2019 - 01:00 PM

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Low of 16 this morning in Burns. Kold.


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 13.0" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 01:27 PM

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Low of 16 this morning in Burns. Kold.

 

WRONG THREAD.



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Posted 01 May 2019 - 02:31 PM

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WRONG THREAD.

 

I'm going to keep posting in here until it rains again. So I will see you in the October thread.


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 13.0" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 02:48 PM

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Yeah... except that I don't complain about rain. The only time I might complain at all is when it strays too far from climo either way. That is a fact. And even that is pointless.


Celebrate climo in the land of constant weather!


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 04:28 PM

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Some good news on the wildfire front....

https://komonews.com...long-west-coast

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 04:32 PM

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Some good news on the wildfire front....

https://komonews.com...long-west-coast

 

 

Literally the same thing every single year... its always going to be a bad fire season.   Makes for good click bait in early May.

 

This year they say its been too wet... last year it was too dry.    Either way... the forecast is always the same and its always bad.   Even though they have no idea what the overall pattern will be like in July or August.   :rolleyes:



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Posted 01 May 2019 - 04:44 PM

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Literally the same thing every single year... its always going to be a bad fire season.   Makes for good click bait in early May.

 

This year they say its been too wet... last year it was too dry.    Either way... the forecast is always the same and its always bad.   Even though they have no idea what the overall pattern will be like in July or August.   :rolleyes:

 

Especially ridiculous when you consider how benign the wildfire season ended up being in 2017 and 2018.



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Posted 01 May 2019 - 04:52 PM

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Literally the same thing every single year... its always going to be a bad fire season.   Makes for good click bait in early May.

 

This year they say its been too wet... last year it was too dry.    Either way... the forecast is always the same and its always bad.   Even though they have no idea what the overall pattern will be like in July or August.   :rolleyes:

 

This spring has been remarkably similar to last spring so far.


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 05:45 PM

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Especially ridiculous when you consider how benign the wildfire season ended up being in 2017 and 2018.

 

Wait, 2017 and 2018 were benign fire seasons?

 

2017 had some of the most impact in terms of urban areas in the NW with the amount of smoke. 2018 was horrible in Central Oregon where there were significant agricultural impacts and in Southern Oregon where the Chetco region burned for the second year in a row. Not to mention some of the worst smoke impact in urban locations in a long while. This isn't even taking into count Northern California's horrific seasons.


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