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Posted 30 July 2019 - 02:23 PM

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https://youtu.be/sMmTkKz60W8

Best advice on earth. Never forget it.

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 02:24 PM

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Wxmidatlantic, great taste in music. Well done.
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 04:46 AM

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A good deal of Volcanic Activity today. This is expected during a solar Minimum.

Volcanic Explosions up to 24,000' seen at:

Karymsky
Sangeang Api
Popocatepetl
Sangay
Reventador
Sabancaya

Strombolian Explosions seen at Stromboli and Shiveluch

Volcanic Ash seen at:

Fuego
Kerinici
Dukono
Aso
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 04:54 AM

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Quakes >5.0

5.7 El Salvador
5.0 New Zealand
5.0 New Zealand
5.0 Southern Mid Atlantic
5.0 Vanuatu Islands
5.0 Crete, Greece
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Posted 01 August 2019 - 06:55 AM

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Many thanks to IFred and Tom for organizing this forum and thread.

This topic will remain on the forefront of science for a very long time.
I hope readers will bring more information and join in. . This is going to be a big subject.

Remember, all off topic posts should go to the Off Topic forum.
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Posted 04 August 2019 - 08:44 AM

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Quiet day.

5.2 Unalaska, Alaska. Depth 22 km.
5.1 Philippines 10km
5.0 Java, Indonesia. 10kn

Explosive Volcanic Activity. (Relatively busy)

Karymsky
Uluwin
Dukono
Sangeang Api
Awu
Sabancaya
Nevados de Chillan

Volcanic Ash Advisory ...(1st 3 Japan)

Ebeko
Aso
Suwanos-jima
Popocatepetl
Reventador
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Posted 04 August 2019 - 08:55 AM

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As the climate gets colder and weather shifts.......

Humanity's next test: feed 10 billion without ruining Earth

https://phys.org/new...lion-earth.html
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Posted 04 August 2019 - 03:33 PM

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Feel free to jump in here and talk about this.
Lot's of opinions vary on the depths of this Minimum and many dispute the role of the sun, which confounds me.
We want people to weigh in on this. Bring news and studies.
This isn't just a news thread. It's about building a body of shared information.
Please share.

https://www.livescie...al-warming.html

Global Warming vs. Solar Cooling: The Showdown Begins in 2020

...it's unlikely that we'll see a return to the extreme cold from centuries ago, researchers reported in a new study. Since the Maunder Minimum, global average temperatures have been on the rise, driven by climate change. Though a new decades-long dip in solar radiation could slow global warming somewhat, it wouldn't be by much, the researchers' simulations demonstrated. And by the end of the incoming cooling period, temperatures would have bounced back from the temporary cooldown.
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Posted 06 August 2019 - 02:56 AM

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Some beautiful Aurora's coming out of S Canada the other day...

 

https://twitter.com/...561250986602497

 

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 03:55 AM

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Can someone explain how we're getting these right now? I thought a quiet sun would prohibit these.
Just love them. Beautiful pictures Tom.

I hope to see these live one day. I understand they make sounds sometimes. Amazing things.
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Posted 06 August 2019 - 07:06 AM

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There has been lots of talk about a big earthquake in Utah where I live at some point. Apparently up to 7.0-7.5 is possible. I've done my best to get ready but I hope it never comes. 


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Winter 2018/2019

Nov 24: 3.3", 30: 1" (4.3") ::: Dec 2: 4.6", 3: .8", 5: .3", 12: 2.3", 21: .6", 24: 1.4", 25: 1.5", 26: 2.7", 27: 1.5", 30: .8" (16.5") ::: Jan 6: 2.7", 16: 1.1", 18: 1", 21: 5.6", 23: .4" (10.8") ::: Feb 5: 3.7", 6: 4.3", 7: 2.0", 10: 4.5", 15: 3.4", 19: 2.8" (20.7") ::: Mar 2: 3.0", 3: 2.3", 8: 3.2", 13: 6.0", 14: 1.1", 28: 1.2", 29: 3.9" (20.7") ::: April 10: .3", 12: 3" (3.3")

Total: 76.3"

 

Winter 2017/2018

Dec 4: 3.2", 16: 0.9", 20: 2.1", 23: 1.5", 25: 4.6" (12.3") ::: Jan 6: 1.5", 20: 10.8", 25: 1.5" (13.8") ::: Feb 19: 8.6", 20: 2.4", 23: 7.1", 25: .5" (18.6") ::: Mar 4: 13", 15: 1.8", 17: 5.3", 25: 4.2" (24.3") ::: April 12: 1", 17: 1.3" (2.3")

Total: 69.3"

Winter 2016/17 Snow:
Nov 17: 3.2", 23: 1.6", 28: 9.2" (14) ::: Dec 1: .5", 16: 2.5", 25: 13" (16) ::: Jan 2: 5", 3: 2.4", 4: 7.7", 12: 1", 19: 1.2", 21: 13", 23: 6", 24: 1", 25: 3.7", 26: 2.5" (43.5)  ::: Feb 11: .5", 23: 6.5", 27: 4.5" (13.5) ::: Mar 5: 5.5" (5.5) ::: Apr 8: 2", 9: 1.8" (3.8) ::: May 17: 1" (1)

Total: 96.3"


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Posted 06 August 2019 - 12:01 PM

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The science is pretty loose on the difference between solar cycle and CMEs but this gets close to explaining. No one is going to fully say what the sun does or does not do until the truthless generation passes away from our science.

https://www.business...related-2017-12

The knowledge behind this is that when solar activity is low, CMEs (coronal mass ejections) of plasma and particles increase, so I think in terms of Aurora, it cancels out. The signs of nature will always be. Always. They'll never lie either.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 01:27 PM

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Heres a good read on volcanism and climate cooling. Its evidence-backed. It makes you go "wow"...

https://www.washingt...led-the-planet/

A quote or excerpt that should stir the mind a bit.....

"Other co-authors on the paper translated and interpreted ancient and medieval documentary records from China, the Middle East and Europe that described unusual atmospheric observations as early as 254 B.C. These phenomena included diminished sunlight, discoloration of the solar disk, the presence of solar coronae and deeply red twilight skies.

Throughout human history, cooler climates from major eruptions have triggered crop failures and famines, contributing to pandemics and social unrest in agricultural communities.

The authors note that their findings may resolve a long-standing debate regarding the causes of one of the most severe climate crises in recent human history. The trouble began in 536, when a “mystery cloud” or dust veil observed in the Mediterranean appeared and persisted for 18 months. Authors linked this harbinger with a large eruption in the northern high latitudes.

A mere four years later, a second volcano erupted somewhere in the tropics and intensified the cooling effect. In the aftermath, unusually cold summers were observed throughout the Northern Hemisphere for nearly 15 years."

These people know this. Its indisputable. I don't know how to say it any more clearly. I just can't. I mean, theres no guessing. Ice, linked year-for-year with tree evidence and known volcanic eruptions. Undeniable, real physical evidence. Even complete with ash and sulfites, in most cases.

Remember in our US history, the year without a summer was only one year and it freaked everyone out. One year.

Without irradiance (red wavelength) the sun is already at it's coolest in low solar. That is fact also.
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Posted 11 August 2019 - 07:00 AM

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The Gulf Stream is slowing.
It's hard to say whether the slowing of the Gulf Stream is related to the solar Minimum.
I'm going to post this here anyway. I read an article around 2004 about one of the columns or pumps in the North Atlantic slowing to a near stop. The study was by Cambridge Univ. I've looked for it many times but can't locate it.

Now this article surfaces and confirms much of what I read, although it doesn't mention the pumps.
My question is - is this a sign that the earth is going into a new phase?
Is it related to the GSM or is it part of an even more complex dynamic?

Read it in that context and tell me what you think.

https://phys.org/new...er-florida.html
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Posted 13 August 2019 - 05:02 PM

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Feel free to jump in here and talk about this.
Lot's of opinions vary on the depths of this Minimum and many dispute the role of the sun, which confounds me.
We want people to weigh in on this. Bring news and studies.
This isn't just a news thread. It's about building a body of shared information.
Please share.

https://www.livescie...al-warming.html

Global Warming vs. Solar Cooling: The Showdown Begins in 2020

...it's unlikely that we'll see a return to the extreme cold from centuries ago, researchers reported in a new study. Since the Maunder Minimum, global average temperatures have been on the rise, driven by climate change. Though a new decades-long dip in solar radiation could slow global warming somewhat, it wouldn't be by much, the researchers' simulations demonstrated. And by the end of the incoming cooling period, temperatures would have bounced back from the temporary cooldown.

 

Interesting that the creator of "web bots", himself a predictive analytics expert and not known for any weather forum, etc has been talking up an impending ice age. Pointing at 2024 as not only a Solar Minimum, but the nexis of the 400+ yr cycle which brought about the Maunder Minimum. He also stated that we're currently over-due on the larger cycle of approx. 100,000 years repeating of "cold periods" in our planet's history. His tone was fairly alarmist from a growing season concern standpoint. Again, from someone completely outside the professional weather community. I was quite surprised tbh. Unless we were to see a repeat of whatever conditions bring on the 100K cycle of cold, I'm leaning with others that the effects of this upcoming GSM will be less severe than the last time it happened due to the current warming period brought about by our cosmic position in the galactic ring. Interesting times nonetheless. "Don't touch that dial.."


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Posted 13 August 2019 - 08:18 PM

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Interesting that the creator of "web bots", himself a predictive analytics expert and not known for any weather forum, etc has been talking up an impending ice age. Pointing at 2024 as not only a Solar Minimum, but the nexis of the 400+ yr cycle which brought about the Maunder Minimum. He also stated that we're currently over-due on the larger cycle of approx. 100,000 years repeating of "cold periods" in our planet's history. His tone was fairly alarmist from a growing season concern standpoint. Again, from someone completely outside the professional weather community. I was quite surprised tbh. Unless we were to see a repeat of whatever conditions bring on the 100K cycle of cold, I'm leaning with others that the effects of this upcoming GSM will be less severe than the last time it happened due to the current warming period brought about by our cosmic position in the galactic ring. Interesting times nonetheless. "Don't touch that dial.."

it will be interesting to see what happens Robert Filex certainly would agree and has been stating that the cycles of the next ice age cycle are due at any time.Alot of people are as you may know are after Robert and I'm sure he knows many our after him.only time will tell in the end who will prove correct.

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 04:05 AM

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So what are the individual opinions on this forum?

I’m very interested in everyone’s point of view.

I believe we’re headed to a cool wet period. It will affect the agriculture industry and that will trickle into the economy and ultimately society changes.
Not the end of the world but challenging long term
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Posted 19 August 2019 - 10:30 AM

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Everyone's been incredibly quiet lately. Tell me, there have been over 65 earthquakes in Kansas and Oklahoma over the past week.
Now, to put it plainly, ...that ain't normal.

As this is a solar Minimum thread perhaps we should consider that this might be a side effect of the GSM. Quakes pick up during that period, as does volcanic action which has been pretty stable lately. Something's always popping off, but no big ones as yet. The next solar cycle is forecast to be lower than this last one. So, maybe things are just getting warmed up.

I'll ask again....any thoughts on this? Or are you just content to read and not think and share?

It's getting weird out there. And it will affect us all.
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Posted 19 August 2019 - 02:41 PM

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Everyone's been incredibly quiet lately. Tell me, there have been over 65 earthquakes in Kansas and Oklahoma over the past week.
Now, to put it plainly, ...that ain't normal.
As this is a solar Minimum thread perhaps we should consider that this might be a side effect of the GSM. Quakes pick up during that period, as does volcanic action which has been pretty stable lately. Something's always popping off, but no big ones as yet. The next solar cycle is forecast to be lower than this last one. So, maybe things are just getting warmed up.
I'll ask again....any thoughts on this? Or are you just content to read and not think and share?
It's getting weird out there. And it will affect us all.

it would indeed be nice to here others input as one thing about grand solar minimums are the increase in volcano eruptions.It will be interesting to see how this plays out.Robert Filex has been stating that the cycles of the ice age are all due.
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Posted 19 August 2019 - 02:51 PM

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Here's an interesting Article that Robert posted about the most dangerous volcanos in the world https://www.iceageno...-north-america/
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Posted 20 August 2019 - 02:52 AM

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Very interesting information regarding the volcano in New Guinea..

 

 

 

VOLCANIC GASES REACH THE STRATOSPHERE AGAIN: For the second time this year, a volcano has injected sulfurous gases into the stratosphere. NASA satellites find that emissions from the Ulawun volcano in New Guinea reached the stratosphere on Aug. 3rd, following a similar eruption from the Raikoke volcano in the Kirul Islands on June 22nd. This latest ejection of SO2could produce volcanic sunsets in the tropics and the southern hemisphere for months to come.

 

 

I've learned that tropical volcano's have more of an impact cooling the atmosphere than in the higher latitudes.  If indeed there is ash rising high up into the Strat, this will undoubtedly contribute to blocking rays from the Sun.


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Posted 20 August 2019 - 03:03 AM

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Everyone's been incredibly quiet lately. Tell me, there have been over 65 earthquakes in Kansas and Oklahoma over the past week.
Now, to put it plainly, ...that ain't normal.

As this is a solar Minimum thread perhaps we should consider that this might be a side effect of the GSM. Quakes pick up during that period, as does volcanic action which has been pretty stable lately. Something's always popping off, but no big ones as yet. The next solar cycle is forecast to be lower than this last one. So, maybe things are just getting warmed up.

I'll ask again....any thoughts on this? Or are you just content to read and not think and share?

It's getting weird out there. And it will affect us all.

 

Andie, I applaud your enthusiasm in this subject and your contribution.  Your keeping this thread interesting.  I've been very busy with work and have my mind in other ongoing projects.  As for my opinion on the GSM, esp this coming Winter and/or cold season, I personally think both North America and Europe are going to see major impacts of the cold coming.  I've been studying the latest behavior of the Strat and some eye popping levels are transpiring that will have a big effects to our global weather patterns in the near term.

 

As far as the future goes, we are just entering the first real side effects of the GSM.  By 2022, or even by later next year, depending on how bad the next growing season gets, we may be on the verge of countries around the globe seeing food shortages.  We won't necessarily see them this year, but next year may be a different story.  We still have plenty of food storage's in place but once they run out, it's going to get ugly.

 

I'm really worried about earthquakes targeting the west coast next year.  I just got this awkward feeling something is getting ready to hit that region.  The earth is getting very active and the Sun is literally asleep.  The times are changing faster than many have predicted.


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Posted 20 August 2019 - 03:29 AM

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While the media hypes the death of a glacier in Iceland,  :https://www.sciencea...-climate-change

 

Are we seeing the birth of a new one in California???  https://www.iceageno...-in-california/


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Posted 20 August 2019 - 04:53 AM

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Its great to hear your thoughts guys. They reflect many of my own.
These cycles are just starting to add up on each other.

The volcanic activity has been more intense this year with SO2. Usually they pop off, interfere with airlines, then dissipate. Volcanos reaching higher altitudes is a sure sign that there are these deep earth pressures are building up and big magma chambers winding up for the pitch.

I'm with you Tom, the earthquakes are getting weird. I've been holding my breath on the Cascades and Southern California for some time. The recent quakes east of the LA area were concerning. Although it doesn't necessarily indicate the big one is next.
The quake swarm in Kansas and Oklahoma has been raising a lot of eyebrows.
And yes, the growth of a new glacier has certainly escaped the eyes of the global warming media.

It isn't any one event usually, so much as it's the collective. And it's slowly adding up
Seemingly unrelated events are painting a picture that reveals the earth is undergoing a very big change.
Ice Ages don't typically send out big announcements. They reveal themselves in the dynamic if we keep our eyes open.

Keep searching out the news guys. We're off to a good start!
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Posted 20 August 2019 - 07:25 PM

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While the media hypes the death of a glacier in Iceland, :https://www.sciencea...-climate-change

Are we seeing the birth of a new one in California??? https://www.iceageno...-in-california/


It was on a motherflipping volcano for crying out loud!! Good grief!!
I'm no geoscientist but, I could see how an awakening volcano might affect a glacier. Goodness.

Happy Glacier day California. :lol:
"Um, why's that snow there?"
I'd love to hear the answers (excuses) to that question.
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Posted 22 August 2019 - 11:42 PM

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Can someone explain how we're getting these right now? I thought a quiet sun would prohibit these.
Just love them. Beautiful pictures Tom.

I hope to see these live one day. I understand they make sounds sometimes. Amazing things.

 

The auroras we are seeing during the deep solar minimum are caused by holes in the sun's corona.  The coronal holes cause an increase in the solar wind.

 

I live far enough north to see auroras every few years.  It is quite spectacular.


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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2019-20 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 20

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 1

Highs 40 or below = 1

 

 


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Posted 22 August 2019 - 11:45 PM

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Todays x-ray flux and radio flux combination was the lowest in several months.  Very deep solar minimum continues.


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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2019-20 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 20

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 1

Highs 40 or below = 1

 

 


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Posted 26 August 2019 - 03:31 AM

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Woah, a VE 5/6 volcano in Russia has just erupted spewing ash 70,000ft into the Strat!

 

https://electroverse...global-cooling/

 

 

https://www.volcanod...PTION-824-.html

 

 

Here's a webcam: https://webcams.volc...y.com/Shiveluch


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Posted 26 August 2019 - 08:09 AM

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Wow!
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Posted 27 August 2019 - 02:51 AM

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Everyone's been incredibly quiet lately. Tell me, there have been over 65 earthquakes in Kansas and Oklahoma over the past week.
Now, to put it plainly, ...that ain't normal.
As this is a solar Minimum thread perhaps we should consider that this might be a side effect of the GSM. Quakes pick up during that period, as does volcanic action which has been pretty stable lately. Something's always popping off, but no big ones as yet. The next solar cycle is forecast to be lower than this last one. So, maybe things are just getting warmed up.
I'll ask again....any thoughts on this? Or are you just content to read and not think and share?
It's getting weird out there. And it will affect us all.

I've read numerous articles saying that those numerous small earthquakes are caused indirectly, by all of the 'fracking', and maybe more directly by the disposal of waste water from the fracking process in that region and I tend to believe that since they started when oil and gas fracking began in full force. So those quakes are actually human caused!
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Posted 27 August 2019 - 05:07 AM

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Perhaps.
I've read everything blamed on fracking here in Texas, including our occasional rare quakes, which we got before fracking began.
I'm not saying some aren't. Heavy forcing of water into some faults may cause a quake, but to see a sudden cluster like this is suspicious.
I'm sure they've been disposing of water for some time. So the sudden explsion of quakes in a short period of time is suspicious. If it continues, it may well be like those around Guthrie, Oklahoma. But only time will tell.

On a side note. We've had fracking all around us in Texas for a long time, yet we don't see clusters like that despite plenty of small intercontinental faults in our gas areas.
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Perhaps.
I've read everything blamed on fracking here in Texas, including our occasional rare quakes, which we got before fracking began.
I'm not saying some aren't. Heavy forcing of water into some faults may cause a quake, but to see a sudden cluster like this is suspicious.
I'm sure they've been disposing of water for some time. So the sudden explsion of quakes in a short period of time is suspicious. If it continues, it may well be like those around Guthrie, Oklahoma. But only time will tell.
On a side note. We've had fracking all around us in Texas for a long time, yet we don't see clusters like that despite plenty of small intercontinental faults in our gas areas.

That’s possible. I really don’t know and was just going by what I read, but maybe those articles were written by some liberals getting all bent out of shape by the damage that fracking causes.
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I theorize that stochastic process is a reflection, or physical presentation, of quantum process. That's why it can not be presisly predicted, or as us weather folk say, forecast and verified.

Totality is a fact. Nothing is separate. It has been said that a butterfly flapping it's wings can cause a rain shower in another location. This statement is witness to this connectivity of all things both of the visible and invisible spectrum.

Andie witnessed this fact. Solar minimum should reduce solar flares and CME's. It has, but the glorious Aurora dance in the sky. There must be something more. There is, we just have not figured it out yet. That is the allure of science. Here we are witnessing falsifiability.

I have mentioned spirit. Spirit is the realm of invisibility. Thought and consciousness are real, but there are no mathematics to explain them. Do they really exist? I think yes. Just a thought.

All thought produces form on some level. You can think of a chair, draw diagrams and produce it. It will then be here on the physical plane. What about your other thoughts? Would they not present themselves as chaos in the universe, or are they quantum possibilities. No way to forecast that.

Like most here I look to the cosmos, but think of this. It is just as far in as out. If you went half way to the Moon everyday, you would never get there.

My hero Carl Sagan.

https://youtu.be/RESsY2y8G2s
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The Jupiter system introduced tidal heating, outside the Goldilocks zone. Vulcanism on such a small world was impossible.

 

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A freezing or frozen world?

 

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A subsurface ocean likely. Europa.

 

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https://youtu.be/YR5ApYxkU-U


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Posted 27 August 2019 - 08:59 PM

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Woah, a VE 5/6 volcano in Russia has just erupted spewing ash 70,000ft into the Strat!

https://electroverse...global-cooling/


https://www.volcanod...PTION-824-.html


Here's a webcam: https://webcams.volc...y.com/Shiveluch


Jackpot! That one wont take long to influence the N. HEM. Love it!
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I theorize that stochastic process is a reflection, or physical presentation, of quantum process. That's why it can not be presisly predicted, or as us weather folk say, forecast and verified.

Totality is a fact. Nothing is separate. It has been said that a butterfly flapping it's wings can cause a rain shower in another location. This statement is witness to this connectivity of all things both of the visible and invisible spectrum.

Andie witnessed this fact. Solar minimum should reduce solar flares and CME's. It has, but the glorious Aurora dance in the sky. There must be something more. There is, we just have not figured it out yet. That is the allure of science. Here we are witnessing falsifiability.

I have mentioned spirit. Spirit is the realm of invisibility. Thought and consciousness are real, but there are no mathematics to explain them. Do they really exist? I think yes. Just a thought.

All thought produces form on some level. You can think of a chair, draw diagrams and produce it. It will then be here on the physical plane. What about your other thoughts? Would they not present themselves as chaos in the universe, or are they quantum possibilities. No way to forecast that.

Like most here I look to the cosmos, but think of this. It is just as far in as out. If you went half way to the Moon everyday, you would never get there.

My hero Carl Sagan.

https://youtu.be/RESsY2y8G2s

There is a carefulness that can be gained from Mr. Sagan's postulations. I'd urge caution with wisdom.
The foolishness of God is still wiser than any man.
I don't know if Mr. Sagan ever left that door open widely enough. That creator-mind-object statement that you speak of is more evidence than most will ever give credit to.
If a weak and fallible human can hold that power, and discern rhythm in the chaos....well, it had to come from somewhere or Someone. Lest we think ourselves wise, we become fools.

If we entertain spirit, why not the very Breath of our Creator? The Engineer of all things.
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We can find beauty during these times as volcano's continue to erupt more frequently across the globe and spew ash higher into the atmosphere.  The volcanic gas creates gorgeous colors in the sky's.

 

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Awesome article Tom. No doubt our sunsets will be more brilliant after these two volcanic eruptions this year.

I'm reminded of the paintings by the artist Turner. His work was heavily influenced by the 1815 eruption of Mt. Tambora which resulted in the Year Without a Summer and so many went hungry that winter.
Here are some of his paintings. The atmosphere was filled with particulate and the skies were brilliant and color filled.

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I theorize that stochastic process is a reflection, or physical presentation, of quantum process. That's why it can not be presisly predicted, or as us weather folk say, forecast and verified.
Totality is a fact. Nothing is separate. It has been said that a butterfly flapping it's wings can cause a rain shower in another location. This statement is witness to this connectivity of all things both of the visible and invisible spectrum.
Andie witnessed this fact. Solar minimum should reduce solar flares and CME's. It has, but the glorious Aurora dance in the sky. There must be something more. There is, we just have not figured it out yet. That is the allure of science. Here we are witnessing falsifiability.
I have mentioned spirit. Spirit is the realm of invisibility. Thought and consciousness are real, but there are no mathematics to explain them. Do they really exist? I think yes. Just a thought.
All thought produces form on some level. You can think of a chair, draw diagrams and produce it. It will then be here on the physical plane. What about your other thoughts? Would they not present themselves as chaos in the universe, or are they quantum possibilities. No way to forecast that.
Like most here I look to the cosmos, but think of this. It is just as far in as out. If you went half way to the Moon everyday, you would never get there.
My hero Carl Sagan.https://youtu.be/RESsY2y8G2s

Beautiful post Wxmidatlantic.

I believe once we embrace the quantum aspects of existence we will begin to become fully awakened to who we are. The universe is indeed "spooky" to paraphrase Einstein.

To try to stay on topic, I think that many elements are coming together to form a new environment for humans.
..........Not just climate, but our very existence and consciousness.
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The autumnal equanox is approachinfg rejoice. We all want.to feel that cold north wind...

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Let's make this climate issue exponentially worse. What d'ya say ??

The "lungs of the world" are dying.
Brazil and the Congo are on fire. Torched by an irresponsible and ignorant government official with absolutely no idea that the earth is a living thing and the rainforests are necessary.

Brazil currently has 2.214 million square miles...miles! that is on fire.
The Congo has 1.52 million square miles currently ablaze.

The Amazon and Congo are considered to be the lungs of the world. This is equal to a person inhaling a carton of cigarettes per Day! Or worse. 20% of our oxygen is created in the Amazon. Burning at a record rate. The President of Brazil believes it creates land for farmers, so this man sets fires! He says the "damage is modest?" He's an idiot. Actually, he gives idiots a bad name.

Air quality is so bad in São Paolo, that the skies went as dark and 10 pm at 4pm and it is 2050 miles away from the fires. Air quality is as bad as Beijing in areas, yet these morons can't figure out that destroying a sensitive natural resource is bad! ?? To make matters worse, the land once cleared is of very poor quality and takes a great deal of commercial fertilizer to get a crop out of it, then it poops out and is essentially dead ground. The fertilizer goes into the rivers and ruins the life in it and flows out into the the ocean. But hey, it's a modest change.

This will destroy the air across the planet. And how long will it take to recover due to population growth IF they allow the forest to return?
Where's The Sierra Club International when you need them? Where's the people screaming climate change? Where's common sense?

I see this as a science minded person. I never wanted to get on a climate vigilante wagon, but look at what we're losing!

WE'RE SCREWED !!
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Jackpot! That one wont take long to influence the N. HEM. Love it!

 

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Winter 2019-20 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 20

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 1

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Let's make this climate issue exponentially worse. What d'ya say ??

The "lungs of the world" are dying.
Brazil and the Congo are on fire. Torched by an irresponsible and ignorant government official with absolutely no idea that the earth is a living thing and the rainforests are necessary.

Brazil currently has 2.214 million square miles...miles! that is on fire.
The Congo has 1.52 million square miles currently ablaze.

The Amazon and Congo are considered to be the lungs of the world. This is equal to a person inhaling a carton of cigarettes per Day! Or worse. 20% of our oxygen is created in the Amazon. Burning at a record rate. The President of Brazil believes it creates land for farmers, so this man sets fires! He says the "damage is modest?" He's an idiot. Actually, he gives idiots a bad name.

Air quality is so bad in São Paolo, that the skies went as dark and 10 pm at 4pm and it is 2050 miles away from the fires. Air quality is as bad as Beijing in areas, yet these morons can't figure out that destroying a sensitive natural resource is bad! ?? To make matters worse, the land once cleared is of very poor quality and takes a great deal of commercial fertilizer to get a crop out of it, then it poops out and is essentially dead ground. The fertilizer goes into the rivers and ruins the life in it and flows out into the the ocean. But hey, it's a modest change.

This will destroy the air across the planet. And how long will it take to recover due to population growth IF they allow the forest to return?
Where's The Sierra Club International when you need them? Where's the people screaming climate change? Where's common sense?

I see this as a science minded person. I never wanted to get on a climate vigilante wagon, but look at what we're losing!

WE'RE SCREWED !!


This is an orchestrated disaster. Paid for by the highest bidder. Has nothing to do with farmers.

Sierra Club is a criminal lobbying organization that interferes in the lives of poor people who work incredibly hard. They're busy harassing working people and farmers. They're lawyers and terrorists themselves.

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Sierras may be a harassment, but let them harass those wrecking the Amazon. They'll do something useful for a change.

To clear up my angry rap, these fires are not destroying the earth's oxygen. It is however trashing the air quality, and the,plants and ecosystem that provides habitat for beneficial and even undiscovered species, along with undiscovered medicinal plants and contains soil erosion. The soil is poor and the amazon and Congo are like a giant filter and Brazil and Africa are vaping like crazy.

This is just gives stupid a whole new definition. They deserve being annoyed et nauseum by a group like Sierra. They can be useful for a change.
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Posted 31 August 2019 - 07:32 AM

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Fires are natural. It is a replacement of carbon to the soil, that outherwise could take years.


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The trasotion of dry to wet season prodice high base thunderstorms like in our west. There is an intelligense on Earth. Far beyound we will ever know.

 

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Sierras may be a harassment, but let them harass those wrecking the Amazon. They'll do something useful for a change.

To clear up my angry rap, these fires are not destroying the earth's oxygen. It is however trashing the air quality, and the,plants and ecosystem that provides habitat for beneficial and even undiscovered species, along with undiscovered medicinal plants and contains soil erosion. The soil is poor and the amazon and Congo are like a giant filter and Brazil and Africa are vaping like crazy.

This is just gives stupid a whole new definition. They deserve being annoyed et nauseum by a group like Sierra. They can be useful for a change.

Yes. If they want a real cause, for sure. Go fight a real enemy. Absolutely.

Ironically, ash and smoke cool the globe though. Lol. Along with volcanic eruptions etc that we're talking about here. Our earth is greener elsewhere over the last 35 years than any period since the satellite era began. What if it greens up Africa and desert parts of Australia in return? Interesting to think about.