August 2019 Weather Discussion for the PNW

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just woke up today and decided one Dome Buster is not enough...

[TT-SEA]

Well you also work with a bunch of beta cucks and soft yuppies. 

 

And you are being a total d*ck.   I am not even talking about my co-workers.  

 

But then we went almost a month with very little sun up here in the middle of summer... so our experience up here is completely different than your experience.

 

Why in the hell would people have the same exact opinions about totally different weather?    

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Not around here.    People are still cautiously optimistic that summer is actually hitting its stride now.   Took forever.   Lots of people were lamenting the year without summer when it was raining and cloudy almost every day in mid-July.

 

But then we live in VERY different places!   Right Andrew?   

 

It rained a few times in July. We had close to an inch on the month I think. Things up at the house are still pretty green. Real people love it when the weather is cloudy and pleasant in the summer.

[TacomaWaWx]

This definitely doesn’t look like a map you see in early August. Should be a little breezy tomorrow morning then transition into a nice day.

[TT-SEA]

It rained a few times in July. We had close to an inch on the month I think. Things up at the house are still pretty green. Real people love it when the weather is cloudy and pleasant in the summer.

 

Yeah... a little rain is really nice.  

 

But not a month of clouds... that is not even close to normal.      Sh*t happens.    Finally feels like summer for a little while.  

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Yeah... a little rain is really nice.  

 

But not a month of clouds... that is not even close to normal.      Sh*t happens.    Finally feels like summer for a little while.  

 

Bombast aside. This is about the most average PNW summer I have seen in quite a while. 2011 and 2012 were the other way. This summer reminds me a lot of the summer of 2007. 

[TT-SEA]

12Z ECMWF is warm and sunny for the Monday - Wednesday period... but cooler than the 00Z run.   

 

Looks like 80s to near 90 down south on those days.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

[TT-SEA]

Bombast aside. This is about the most average PNW summer I have seen in quite a while. 2011 and 2012 were the other way. This summer reminds me a lot of the summer of 2007. 

 

 

Great.   And you have spent it all in Oregon.  

 

Its been fairly average here too... but a month of clouds was not normal up here.    I have seen a week of clouds in the summer... even 2 weeks.   But a month is very unusual.    That is just a fact.   You did not experience that so you have no point of reference.    Sh*t happens.   It was a sunny spring... and the payback was a case of bad timing.

[Jesse]

Some improvements from Monday going forward on the 12z Euro compared to the 00z run, as it keeps the ULL just a bit closer to us.

 

More aggressive with ejecting the ULL inland late in the week too.

[Jesse]

12z Euro shows a legitimately interesting 500mb progression for early August next week. Would be ok with this one verifying.

[TT-SEA]

Some improvements from Monday going forward on the 12z Euro compared to the 00z run, as it keeps the ULL just a bit closer to us.

 

More aggressive with ejecting the ULL inland late in the week too.

 

 

Hopefully it will follow the same script as this week... a little rain late in the week and a sunny weekend.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Great.   And you have spent it all in Oregon.  

 

Its been fairly average here too... but a month of clouds was not normal up here.    I have seen a week of clouds in the summer... even 2 weeks.   But a month is very unusual.    That is just a fact.   You did not experience that so you have no point of reference.    Sh*t happens.   It was a sunny spring... and the payback was a case of bad timing.

 

I've spent two weekends in Washington since June 1st. The weather was a bit cloudy both weekends, but it was fine. 

[TT-SEA]

I've spent two weekends in Washington since June 1st. The weather was a bit cloudy both weekends, but it was fine.

Great.

 

And I think your weather is just fine now.

 

Now what?

[SilverFallsAndrew]

60+ lows in July

 

PDX 21

EUG 4

SLE  3 

[Jesse]

I've spent two weekends in Washington since June 1st. The weather was a bit cloudy both weekends, but it was fine.

We camped at White River on Mt. Rainier mid month and it rained at some point each day. We set up tarps and had a great time.

[Jesse]

60+ lows in July

 

PDX 21

EUG 4

SLE 3

Even VUO which is still in the heart of the metro and just a few miles away as the crow flies had half as many.

 

11 there versus 21 at PDX.

[Omegaraptor]

I’d like the ULL to stay in the same place or trend a little south. Right now it’s in a nearly ideal spot to reduce fire danger at Mt Shasta.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Even VUO which is still in the heart of the metro and just a few miles away as the crow flies had half as many.

 

With the UHI acting like the # of 60+ lows at PDX means anything is pretty silly. 

 

Not a ton of it going on here, but some of the Facebook groups are blowing up about it. 

[Jesse]

I’d like the ULL to stay in the same place or trend a little south. Right now it’s in a nearly ideal spot to reduce fire danger at Mt Shasta.

I’d like some Burgerville.

[ShawniganLake]

Can’t help but think we may see some convection next week. Maybe wishful thinking

[Jesse]

Can’t help but think we may see some convection next week. Maybe wishful thinking

Was thinking the same thing browsing the Euro.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

About to head out for lunch. Beautiful day with temps in the upper 70s so far with lots of sunshine. TWC nailed yesterday's high of 87 for PDX and today have 89 as the high. So possibly 90 degrees today if we can get lucky. Then for Sat to Tues, they are currently going for 89/93/91/90.

[Front Ranger]

Ugh, we do not need anymore rain, I should not have to mow my yard this many times in a summer.

 

Speak to the map.

 

[Kayla]

Nothing to do but troll and act like 7th grade boys.

 

You misspelled your last word there so I went ahead and took the liberty to fix it for you.

[TT-SEA]

12Z ECMWF is really nice... Thursday still looks great and then it shows a little rain on Friday (but highs still into the 70s) and then sunny and warm by Saturday again.

 

That would be pretty close to repeat of this week.  

[GHweatherChris]

Speak to the map.

 

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Don't tell me what to do!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

You misspelled your last word there so I went ahead and took the liberty to fix it for you.

 

Fair enough...

[Jesse]

About to head out for lunch. Beautiful day with temps in the upper 70s so far with lots of sunshine. TWC nailed yesterday's high of 87 for PDX and today have 89 as the high. So possibly 90 degrees today if we can get lucky. Then for Sat to Tues, they are currently going for 89/93/91/90.

No need for worthless TWC updates here. We can all see it on our phones.

[Front Ranger]

Not around here.    People are still cautiously optimistic that summer is actually hitting its stride now.   Took forever.   Lots of people were lamenting the year without summer when it was raining and cloudy almost every day in mid-July.

 

But then we live in VERY different places!   Right Andrew?   

 

You should remind them that SEA saw 44 70+ highs March-June.

 

Lots of warm, dry days with summery temps before that soul-crushing two week mostly cloudy with occasional rain period in July.

[GHweatherChris]

You misspelled your last word there so I went ahead and took the liberty to fix it for you.

Wow?

[TT-SEA]

You should remind them that SEA saw 44 70+ highs March-June.

 

Lots of warm, dry days with summery temps before that soul-crushing two week mostly cloudy with occasional rain period in July.

 

 

It was an unusually cloudy month around here from mid-June through mid-July... just a fact.    And that timing sucks... no matter what happened before.

[Front Ranger]

Great.   And you have spent it all in Oregon.  

 

Its been fairly average here too... but a month of clouds was not normal up here.    I have seen a week of clouds in the summer... even 2 weeks.   But a month is very unusual.    That is just a fact.   You did not experience that so you have no point of reference.    Sh*t happens.   It was a sunny spring... and the payback was a case of bad timing.

 

That was not the vast majority of WA, though. Just your little microclimate. 

 

It was unusually cloudy for 2 weeks for the Puget Sound region. After an unusually sunny overall 3 month period. Horrors.

[Front Ranger]

It was an unusually cloudy month around here from mid-June through mid-July... just a fact.    And that timing sucks... no matter what happened before.

 

And you will find a reason to complain...no matter what the timing of cloudy/rainy periods are.

 

But acting like summer took forever to arrive this year when there was plenty of summery weather before July is just silly. I remember talking with a Zillow rep who was out here in mid June, and she was gushing about how "summer had arrived early" this year in May. According to you, though, all that is forgotten if you have to endure a cloudier than normal period in mid summer. 

[TT-SEA]

That was not the vast majority of WA, though. Just your little microclimate. 

 

It was unusually cloudy for 2 weeks for the Puget Sound region. After an unusually sunny overall 3 month period. Horrors.

 

Horrors!   Yes.

 

Like the horror of normal summer weather in Oregon.   

 

Anyways... it was an unusually cloudy 4-week period for almost all of King County and actually a pretty part of western WA.    Oh well.   No need to try and qualify it or tell us it did not happen.   It most certainly did.      

 

There are lot of opinions today!! 

[TT-SEA]

And you will find a reason to complain...no matter what the timing of cloudy/rainy periods are.

 

But acting like summer took forever to arrive this year when there was plenty of summery weather before July is just silly. I remember talking with a Zillow rep who was out here in mid June, and she was gushing about how "summer had arrived early" this year in May. According to you, though, all that is forgotten if you have to endure a cloudier than normal period in mid summer. 

 

 

Yep.

 

It was forgotten by many people after a month of clouds and frequent rain.    Human nature.

 

It sucked.    Sh*t happens.   Bad timing.   

 

No reason to rehash it again.    

[Front Ranger]

Horrors!   Yes.

 

Like the horror of normal summer weather in Oregon.   

 

Anyways... it was an unusually cloudy 4-week period for almost all of King County and actually a pretty part of western WA.    Oh well.   No need to try and qualify it or tell us it did not happen.   It most certainly did.      

 

There are lot of opinions today!! 

 

Were you everywhere at all times in King County over that 4 week period?

 

SEA had 17 mostly cloudy or cloudy days from Jun 15 to Jul 15, defined as days with more than 70% cloud cover (and keep in mind, high/mid level cloud cover counts as well). We've seen how even very sunny months from previous years managed to go down as 40-50% cloud cover months, so these numbers definitely err on the cloudier side.

 

That means for that month that was so terrible at your location, almost half the days at SEA were partly or mostly sunny.

 

You often project your personal experience at your location to all of King County, and this is another example of that.

[Front Ranger]

Yep.

 

It was forgotten by many people after a month of clouds and frequent rain.    Human nature.

 

It sucked.    Sh*t happens.   Bad timing.   

 

No reason to rehash it again.    

 

Sorry, but that is not an accurate description of that period for the vast majority of people in King County.

[TT-SEA]

Were you everywhere at all times in King County over that 4 week period?

 

SEA had 17 mostly cloudy or cloudy days from Jun 15 to Jul 15, defined as days with more than 70% cloud cover (and keep in mind, high/mid level cloud cover counts as well).

 

That means for that month that was so terrible at your location, almost half the days at SEA were partly to mostly sunny.

 

You often project your personal experience at your location to all of King County, and this is another example of that.

 

Numerous people around King County reported the same thing on here.   Even people who liked the clouds said that it was quite unusual and persistent.

 

You are re-writing history now and saying it was just me.   It was not.    Stop rehashing old crap.

[Jesse]

Wonder how bad Tim will get if we go through another seasonably cool 7-10 days at some point in August.