Jump to content

Welcome!

Sign In or Register to gain full access to our forums. By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community.

Welcome!

Thanks for stopping by the Weather Forums! Please take the time to register and join our community. Feel free to post or start new topics on anything related to the weather or the climate.


Photo

2/8 - 2/9 Upper Midwest GL Snow System

- - - - -

  • Please log in to reply

#1
bud2380

Posted 05 February 2020 - 08:30 AM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

Models are in good agreement about a fairly potent wave coming out of the pacific NW and tracking along the upper midwest into the northern GL's.  This isn't a true clipper system, but it has some characteristics of a clipper as it comes in from the NW.  These ones are always fun to fall within that track.  I'd need a huge shift south to get into any of this, but maybe it will shift far enough south that parts of Iowa get clipped.  Here is the 12z GFS and 00z Euro.

 

 

snku_024h.us_mw.png

 

 

sn10_024h.us_mw.png


  • jaster220 and Clinton like this

Season Snowfall 23.2"


#2
Hawkeye

Posted 05 February 2020 - 08:36 AM

Hawkeye

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3756 posts
  • LocationCedar Rapids, IA

The Canadian is farther south, which would obviously be good for me, but I would put my money on the northern track of the GFS/Euro.

 

gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_ncus_16.png


  • Clinton likes this

season snowfall: 29.4"

 

'18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


#3
bud2380

Posted 05 February 2020 - 08:41 AM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

Yep, Canadian goes nuts here in IA.  LOL.  Never gonna happen here.

 

 

snku_024h.us_mw.png


Season Snowfall 23.2"


#4
Hawkeye

Posted 05 February 2020 - 09:04 AM

Hawkeye

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3756 posts
  • LocationCedar Rapids, IA

12z UK is on board the Minnesota train.

 

sn10_024h.us_mw.png


season snowfall: 29.4"

 

'18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


#5
bud2380

Posted 05 February 2020 - 09:10 AM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

Ukie, pretty similar to the GFS.  


Season Snowfall 23.2"


#6
Tom

Posted 05 February 2020 - 09:37 AM

Tom

    Community Mod

  • Mods
  • 20683 posts
  • LocationDes Plaines, IL

12z GEFS...

 

GEFSMW_prec_meansnacc_126.png

 

GEFSMW_prec_snens_126.png



#7
St Paul Storm

Posted 05 February 2020 - 10:29 AM

St Paul Storm

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3282 posts
  • LocationSt. Paul, MN
Rochester should do well with this. Tight gradients on the northern fringe.

#8
bud2380

Posted 05 February 2020 - 10:31 AM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

Euro, stays consistent.  

 

sn10_024h.us_mw.png


Season Snowfall 23.2"


#9
Stacsh

Posted 05 February 2020 - 11:05 AM

Stacsh

    Forum Contributor

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 710 posts
  • LocationGrand Rapids, MI

If this stays a little north then I'm looking at mix or rain.  This winter is really the worst.  Misses west, south, north and yes even east!  West Central MI has got the dome going.  


  • jaster220 likes this

#10
jaster220

Posted 05 February 2020 - 11:28 AM

jaster220

    Pure Michigan!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8803 posts
  • LocationKRMY (Marshall, MI) KJXN (work)

If this stays a little north then I'm looking at mix or rain.  This winter is really the worst.  Misses west, south, north and yes even east!  West Central MI has got the dome going.  

 

Was gonna say, "fizzles over the Mitt"  :rolleyes:


Winter 2019-20 Snow Total = 35.3"  Largest Storm: 7" (11/11)        Oct: T Nov: 7.8 Dec: 7.1 Jan: 7.3 Feb: 13.1 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.7"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 67.4" (135% of normal)

2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967

 


#11
Tom

Posted 05 February 2020 - 11:46 AM

Tom

    Community Mod

  • Mods
  • 20683 posts
  • LocationDes Plaines, IL

12z EPS is rather juicy across MN/WI...should have some pretty good ratios...

 

 

Attached Files

  • Attached File  1.png   362.02KB   0 downloads

  • St Paul Storm and Clinton like this

#12
james1976

Posted 05 February 2020 - 11:57 AM

james1976

    Special Contributor

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5941 posts
  • LocationAplington, IA
I'll be in St Paul this weekend so it looks like I'll get to enjoy it.
  • Hawkeye, jaster220, St Paul Storm and 1 other like this

#13
bud2380

Posted 05 February 2020 - 01:59 PM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

18z GFS didn't shift the track south, but the southern edge of the system is stronger so brings snow down to I80 in Eastern Iowa this run.  


  • jaster220 likes this

Season Snowfall 23.2"


#14
bud2380

Posted 05 February 2020 - 02:02 PM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

Man, if this would shift south, that would be amazing, some really nice totals setting up.  Not going to hold my breath on that.  Up to 1.5" this run though. :)

 

 

snku_024h.us_mw.png


  • TOL_Weather likes this

Season Snowfall 23.2"


#15
St Paul Storm

Posted 05 February 2020 - 03:29 PM

St Paul Storm

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3282 posts
  • LocationSt. Paul, MN
Looks like about 0.4-0.5” of liquid with this as it stands now. Assuming pretty decent ratios, this could yield a nice snowfall somewhere close to the metro. I need to fire up the snowblower to burn off the fuel in the tank. My threshold is 4” so let’s make it happen. I still think Rochester is the sweet spot with this though.
  • Clinton likes this

#16
jaster220

Posted 05 February 2020 - 04:34 PM

jaster220

    Pure Michigan!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8803 posts
  • LocationKRMY (Marshall, MI) KJXN (work)

Man, if this would shift south, that would be amazing, some really nice totals setting up.  Not going to hold my breath on that.  Up to 1.5" this run though. :)

 

 

snku_024h.us_mw.png

 

Seriously tho? We can hardly get 6" out of this wave coming up from the Gulf, yet this clipper-ish thing will deliver a foot plus way up in MN. Somethin just not right in my wx world  :wacko:


  • St Paul Storm likes this

Winter 2019-20 Snow Total = 35.3"  Largest Storm: 7" (11/11)        Oct: T Nov: 7.8 Dec: 7.1 Jan: 7.3 Feb: 13.1 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.7"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 67.4" (135% of normal)

2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967

 


#17
Hawkeye

Posted 05 February 2020 - 06:48 PM

Hawkeye

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3756 posts
  • LocationCedar Rapids, IA

The NAM is now in range and it looks just like the other models (minus the south outlier Canadian).


season snowfall: 29.4"

 

'18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


#18
Madtown

Posted 05 February 2020 - 07:58 PM

Madtown

    Daily Contributor

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1702 posts
Looks like the 00z GFS ticked south a bit!

#19
bud2380

Posted 05 February 2020 - 09:14 PM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA
UK came south a touch

Season Snowfall 23.2"


#20
Hawkeye

Posted 05 February 2020 - 10:07 PM

Hawkeye

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3756 posts
  • LocationCedar Rapids, IA

UK came south a touch

 

sn10_024h.us_mw.png


season snowfall: 29.4"

 

'18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


#21
Hawkeye

Posted 05 February 2020 - 10:17 PM

Hawkeye

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3756 posts
  • LocationCedar Rapids, IA

Meanwhile, the Euro has moved north.

 

sn10_024h.us_mw.png


season snowfall: 29.4"

 

'18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


#22
Tom

Posted 06 February 2020 - 01:28 AM

Tom

    Community Mod

  • Mods
  • 20683 posts
  • LocationDes Plaines, IL

00z Euro...

 

 

Attached Files

  • Attached File  1.png   462.41KB   0 downloads

  • St Paul Storm likes this

#23
Tom

Posted 06 February 2020 - 02:51 AM

Tom

    Community Mod

  • Mods
  • 20683 posts
  • LocationDes Plaines, IL

06z GFS...total snowfall which captures the entire event plus the weak clipper on Sat...

 

 

snku_acc.us_mw.png


  • jaster220 and St Paul Storm like this

#24
Tom

Posted 06 February 2020 - 03:00 AM

Tom

    Community Mod

  • Mods
  • 20683 posts
  • LocationDes Plaines, IL

06z GEFS...

 

GEFSMW_prec_meansnacc_114.png

 

GEFSMW_prec_snens_114.png



#25
St Paul Storm

Posted 06 February 2020 - 05:36 AM

St Paul Storm

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3282 posts
  • LocationSt. Paul, MN
From the morning disco:

Expect heavy snowfall to develop under
this band, with rates of at least 1 inch per hour likely. Where
exactly this band sets up remains to be seen, and will likely not
become apparent until at least Saturday. But, it is becoming more
clear that we`ll see that narrow band of 6 to 8 inches develop
within a broader swath of 3 to 6 inches. The blended guidance off
the National Blend of Models has more of a widespread area of 4 to 6
inches, but this likely washes out the aforementioned banding
feature that should set up across the region. As of now, it appears
that this will be along a line from Redwood Falls through Mankato to
Rochester MN, but this could and likely will change with new
guidance. One could easily make the case that this could end up
being anywhere from the MN/IA border up to say the I-94 corridor.
  • jaster220 and Clinton like this

#26
Clinton

Posted 06 February 2020 - 05:39 AM

Clinton

    Daily Contributor

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1669 posts
  • LocationWarrensburg, MO

6z EC

1581314400-JnL2j4ZoZ5w.png


  • St Paul Storm likes this

#27
St Paul Storm

Posted 06 February 2020 - 05:43 AM

St Paul Storm

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3282 posts
  • LocationSt. Paul, MN
I took a quick look at the soundings from the 0z GFS on Sunday morning. Pretty solid DGZ here around 225mb deep. There’s a small temp inversion just above the ground but temps stay well below freezing. Looks like a decent setup.
  • jaster220, Clinton and Stormhunter87 like this

#28
bud2380

Posted 06 February 2020 - 07:58 AM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

12z GFS holds firm on the southern edge.  I may need to pay my parents a visit this weekend as they are showing 6" on the GFS

 

 

snku_024h.us_mw.png


Season Snowfall 23.2"


#29
james1976

Posted 06 February 2020 - 08:00 AM

james1976

    Special Contributor

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5941 posts
  • LocationAplington, IA

12z GFS holds firm on the southern edge. I may need to pay my parents a visit this weekend as they are showing 6" on the GFS


snku_024h.us_mw.png

Wish the Euro would cave south
  • jaster220 likes this

#30
Hawkeye

Posted 06 February 2020 - 08:39 AM

Hawkeye

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3756 posts
  • LocationCedar Rapids, IA

12z Canadian still sticking with its south track, and I'm still not buying this scenario, even though I'd love it to verify.

 

sn10_024h.us_mw.png


  • jaster220 and FV-Mike like this

season snowfall: 29.4"

 

'18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


#31
Tony

Posted 06 February 2020 - 08:53 AM

Tony

    Daily Contributor

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1828 posts
  • LocationDuPage County

12z Canadian still sticking with its south track, and I'm still not buying this scenario, even though I'd love this to verify.

 

sn10_024h.us_mw.png

I would think waves coming out of the Pacific NW would be handled halfway decent by the CMC but the way models have performed this winter, I would trust none of them.


  • jaster220 likes this

#32
Hawkeye

Posted 06 February 2020 - 08:57 AM

Hawkeye

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3756 posts
  • LocationCedar Rapids, IA

UK is drifting south as well.  Will the Euro remain north?

 

sn10_024h.us_mw.png


  • Tom, bud2380 and Clinton like this

season snowfall: 29.4"

 

'18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


#33
Tom

Posted 06 February 2020 - 09:01 AM

Tom

    Community Mod

  • Mods
  • 20683 posts
  • LocationDes Plaines, IL

I would think waves coming out of the Pacific NW would be handled halfway decent by the CMC but the way models have performed this winter, I would trust none of them.


I recall last year and several times in years past, the Canadian usually does very well with northern stream waves. The Euro usually plays catch up. The Euro is money with SW flow/southern stream storms inside 5 days.
  • jaster220 likes this

#34
bud2380

Posted 06 February 2020 - 09:09 AM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

CMC with Kuchera ratios

 

snku_acc.us_mw.png


  • Hawkeye likes this

Season Snowfall 23.2"


#35
St Paul Storm

Posted 06 February 2020 - 09:20 AM

St Paul Storm

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3282 posts
  • LocationSt. Paul, MN
IA looking good today. I’d guess the Euro follows suit in a bit. Those kuchera maps are so ridiculously bad. No way anyone gets 12-16” from this occluding low, regardless of the east-west band.
  • Hawkeye, jaster220 and FV-Mike like this

#36
bud2380

Posted 06 February 2020 - 09:29 AM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

IA looking good today. I’d guess the Euro follows suit in a bit. Those kuchera maps are so ridiculously bad. No way anyone gets 12-16” from this occluding low, regardless of the east-west band.

 Kuchera maps are fun to look at, but rarely verify.  

 

GEFS ensemble has the bullseye in far southern MN near the IA border.  


Season Snowfall 23.2"


#37
bud2380

Posted 06 February 2020 - 10:09 AM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

Euro came south a tick, but not to the level of the other models.

 

sn10_024h.us_mw.png


  • Hawkeye and Clinton like this

Season Snowfall 23.2"


#38
St Paul Storm

Posted 06 February 2020 - 10:17 AM

St Paul Storm

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3282 posts
  • LocationSt. Paul, MN
Glad to see the Euro hold serve. But the squeeze on the northern fringe is a problem.
  • Snowshoe and jaster220 like this

#39
Mi_Matthew

Posted 06 February 2020 - 10:20 AM

Mi_Matthew

    Forum Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 203 posts
  • LocationClinton Township, MI
Looks like a decent "front end thump" over here with the ICON the most aggressive with rates.
  • jaster220 likes this

#40
Clinton

Posted 06 February 2020 - 12:14 PM

Clinton

    Daily Contributor

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1669 posts
  • LocationWarrensburg, MO

15z SREF

1581314400-J794piOFQtM.png


  • St Paul Storm likes this

#41
St Paul Storm

Posted 06 February 2020 - 12:38 PM

St Paul Storm

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3282 posts
  • LocationSt. Paul, MN
NAM and ICON are in the northern camp compared to the Canadian and GFS. Euro is in between. Barely any snow south of the MN/IA border on the 18z NAM. Wouldn’t be fun to track if they agreed would it?

#42
Stacsh

Posted 06 February 2020 - 12:53 PM

Stacsh

    Forum Contributor

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 710 posts
  • LocationGrand Rapids, MI

NAM and ICON are in the northern camp compared to the Canadian and GFS. Euro is in between. Barely any snow south of the MN/IA border on the 18z NAM. Wouldn’t be fun to track if they agreed would it?

 

Euro will win this, but that's just my opinion.  It does well with these systems.  



#43
Hawkeye

Posted 06 February 2020 - 01:17 PM

Hawkeye

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3756 posts
  • LocationCedar Rapids, IA

The ICON keeps drifting north, LOL.  The 18z run even has good snow up to Duluth.


season snowfall: 29.4"

 

'18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


#44
bud2380

Posted 06 February 2020 - 01:53 PM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA

18z GFS remaining consistent as well.  I wish the models would make up their minds soon! :P 

 

 

snku_acc.us_mw.png


Season Snowfall 23.2"


#45
Hawkeye

Posted 06 February 2020 - 06:42 PM

Hawkeye

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3756 posts
  • LocationCedar Rapids, IA

The 00z NAM is a tick south, but that only takes it to southern Minnesota like the Euro.


season snowfall: 29.4"

 

'18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


#46
St Paul Storm

Posted 06 February 2020 - 06:49 PM

St Paul Storm

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3282 posts
  • LocationSt. Paul, MN

The 00z NAM is a tick south, but that only takes it to southern Minnesota like the Euro.


Looks like the southern edge stayed put more or less but the northern edge moved south. A bit narrower snow swath.

#47
St Paul Storm

Posted 06 February 2020 - 07:53 PM

St Paul Storm

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3282 posts
  • LocationSt. Paul, MN
0z GFS still steady. Hits S/C MN into N IA pretty good.

#48
Hawkeye

Posted 06 February 2020 - 08:25 PM

Hawkeye

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3756 posts
  • LocationCedar Rapids, IA

Canadian shifted north some, not surprisingly.  Models are converging on s MN and n IA.


season snowfall: 29.4"

 

'18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"      '16-17: 17.9"      '15-16: 20.0"      '14-15: 30.4"      '13-14: 48.3"      '12-13: 34.1"

 

Average snowfall: ~30"


#49
bud2380

Posted 06 February 2020 - 08:26 PM

bud2380

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3191 posts
  • LocationNorth Liberty, IA
I really hope the gfs scores a coup

Season Snowfall 23.2"


#50
jaster220

Posted 06 February 2020 - 08:29 PM

jaster220

    Pure Michigan!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8803 posts
  • LocationKRMY (Marshall, MI) KJXN (work)

0z NAM has quite the burst of snow S of the low track for SMI. I suppose iffy thermals could spell trouble, but verbatim I like the look for Sunday night:

 

Attached File  20200207 0z nam12 h72 Surf.png   163.42KB   0 downloads

 

fwiw, my inlaws east of Moscow are suddenly in a very snowy period and their pattern aligns with ours wrt wx. Sometimes they will lead ours by about 8-10 days. 


  • Tom and TOL_Weather like this

Winter 2019-20 Snow Total = 35.3"  Largest Storm: 7" (11/11)        Oct: T Nov: 7.8 Dec: 7.1 Jan: 7.3 Feb: 13.1 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.7"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 67.4" (135% of normal)

2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967