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#101
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 05:48 AM

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I've never been one to be a conspiracy nut, but yeah I agree with this completely. The 2009-2012 Swine Flu pandemic GLOBALLY infected 700 Million to 1.4 BILLION people killing up to 579,000 people. No media freak out back then. Nothing remotely close to what we're seeing now. Factor in the Democrats, MSM like CNN MSNBC, leftists mouthpieces like Bill Maher and others for 2 years have been rooting for economic collapse stating they would use it to take down Trump. They made no secret of this. Then this "virus" happens with unbelievable hype following it. Yeah. Anyone with a functioning brain can't tell me this isn't a coincidence or at least intriguing.

I'm not going to respond to the rest of this but the Swine flu had a mortality rate of 0.02%. COVID-19 has a death rate of 3.2% currently. It's irresponsible to compare these two pandemics. 

 

If this is all just fear mongering why would Trump shutdown travel from Europe? Why would a conservative European president (one that has been compared to Trump) lock a country completely down if this was all just one big American liberal ploy?


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 05:55 AM

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Who made it political? I only spoke the facts. This is not adding up.


Politics have absolutely been a factor in how some people have responded to this. On both sides.

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 05:56 AM

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Yep, due to media fear mongering, people overreacting, and an overabundance of caution.


It's not the same as the regular flu. That was the main point of my post, not the politics.

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 05:59 AM

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Obviously not meant to stop the spread entirely.

Italy is the model that is forcing these actions. Its all about slowing the curve and putting less stress on the health care system. An arena of 20,000 people breathing the same air has more exponential spreading power than a small gathering. They would probably like to go to zero... but at the same time they don't want to put us under martial law.


This.

And Trump didn't suspend all air travel from Europe because of media hype.

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 06:09 AM

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Looks like almost all of the European countries are closing schools and non-essential services now.

 

Glad to see we have everyone in the world is in on this conspiracy... it definitely helps 'sell' it better to those Trump supporters.    


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 06:28 AM

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 06:32 AM

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 06:56 AM

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No audience for the next debate.

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 07:24 AM

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This coronavirus thread is a great learning tool to understand who you should be ignoring on the weather threads with their model analysis and who is likely worth listening to.

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 07:34 AM

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i get my medical advice from Bill Mitchell. This is all fake. 30 year olds in Italy having to be intubated and ICUs over capacity in Italy is just another Soros induced panic. France, Netherlands, and Germany starting to have their health care systems strain under the pressure of this is just elaborate set dressing. This fake news virus will pass when the weather is warmer too as it isn’t spreading in places like Egypt, Qatar, Brazil and the Philippines. Even if it is real, you’ll be immune to it after you get it, just don’t read into those reports from China, Japan, and now Italy where people are reinfected and hospitalized again, as that is more MSNBC induced panic.

Now if you will excuse me, after listening to America’s greatest judge, Jennie Pirro, I am going to do the patriotic thing and order that my employees return to the office and we move on with our lives. *coof*
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 07:39 AM

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One thing I can say...wether you’re afraid of the virus or not...you should stock up on supplies since the worse the situation gets the more panic will be induced thus sending people to the stores buying out all of the supplies. Haven’t really seen any change to normal life here in Tacoma over the last few weeks besides no toilet paper in the stores but things are definitely escalating globally so definitely be prepared for a change from normal life is one thing I’d recommend.
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 07:47 AM

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If it were not for the restrictive government of China, this thing may have not as bad as it is in the first place.
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 07:50 AM

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One thing I have not heard yet is how quickly the onset of symptoms is. Does it hit you suddenly like the flu or it is a gradual onset like the cold?

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 07:51 AM

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One thing I have not heard yet is how quickly the onset of symptoms is. Does it hit you suddenly like the flu or it is a gradual onset like the cold?


You may not even show symptoms.

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:02 AM

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So when do Disneyland and Knott's Berry Farm close down?

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:15 AM

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Politics have absolutely been a factor in how some people have responded to this. On both sides.

 

Mostly on the right though. Most Trump supporters I know seem to have a real problem admitting this is a real thing. 


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:17 AM

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I'm not going to respond to the rest of this but the Swine flu had a mortality rate of 0.02%. COVID-19 has a death rate of 3.2% currently. It's irresponsible to compare these two pandemics. 

 

If this is all just fear mongering why would Trump shutdown travel from Europe? Why would a conservative European president (one that has been compared to Trump) lock a country completely down if this was all just one big American liberal ploy?

 

No sense in responding to that kind of absolute (His, not yours) non-sense. Most people on here are well aware of my political leanings, but the only people I see making this political are on the right. It makes me sick. Criticism of the President, his administration, or other leaders in regards to their actions on this is fair and not "politicizing" things. If people are incompetent, if the Emperor has no clothes, we need to say so. This administration is asleep at the wheel and people's lives are at stake. 


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Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:22 AM

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If the same number of people got COVID-19 as H1N1 there would be 22.4 to 44.8 million deaths. So SHUT UP about how this is no worse than seasonal influenza. Just shut the **** up.


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Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:26 AM

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Mostly on the right though. Most Trump supporters I know seem to have a real problem admitting this is a real thing. 

 

I'd agree with that. Although some on the left were quick to politicize the virus as well.

 

I had a conversation last night with a friend living down in Mexico. The virus hasn't really hit the country much yet, and he still feels like it's no big deal and just overblown hype over the flu with a new name. The facts wouldn't convince him otherwise.

 

And yes, he is a Trump supporter.


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:27 AM

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Ouch. The stock market. Could be a strain on people closing in on retirement.


The prime minister and his wife are apparently sick. And have been in contact with someone who tested positive. The are self isolating.

A close relative of mine works for the city of Vancouver and they are implementing some of their emergency plans. On the bright side they have been testing thousands of people for weeks and there hasn’t been a surge in the infected numbers like we are seeing elsewhere in the world.

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:33 AM

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Ouch. The stock market. Could be a strain on people closing in on retirement.


The prime minister and his wife are apparently sick. And have been in contact with someone who tested positive. The are self isolating.

A close relative of mine works for the city of Vancouver and they are implementing some of their emergency plans. On the bright side they have been testing thousands of people for weeks and there hasn’t been a surge in the infected numbers like we are seeing elsewhere in the world.

 

Unfortunately, since there are likely tens of thousands in the U.S. now infected and a lot of travel back and forth with Canada, it's only a matter of time before the surge hits. 

 

On the bright side, countries/people are now much more quick to take social distancing measures than they were a couple weeks ago, so hopefully that will prevent what we're seeing in the worst hit countries from happening everywhere.


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:33 AM

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I'd agree with that. Although some on the left were quick to politicize the virus as well.

 

I had a conversation last night with a friend living down in Mexico. The virus hasn't really hit the country much yet, and he still feels like it's no big deal and just overblown hype over the flu with a new name. The facts wouldn't convince him otherwise.

 

And yes, he is a Trump supporter.

 

I spoke to my ex-wife who lives in Oklahoma two days ago about it and she was not concerned at all. She is about 38 weeks pregnant too. I warned her to stock up on hygiene supplies and other things and to prepare for the kids to be out of school and she just sort of blew me off. 


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:37 AM

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We will see if this becomes like the 1918 Spanish flu or the Black Death. So far even in China it's a very small percentage of the population who got it. The scariest thing is the high mortality rate, but overstressing about it could lower people's immunity to it.
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:54 AM

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We will see if this becomes like the 1918 Spanish flu or the Black Death. So far even in China it's a very small percentage of the population who got it. The scariest thing is the high mortality rate, but overstressing about it could lower people's immunity to it.

Probably wouldn’t be a fair comparison given improvements in healthcare over the past centuries
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:58 AM

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If the same number of people got COVID-19 as H1N1 there would be 22.4 to 44.8 million deaths. So SHUT UP about how this is no worse than seasonal influenza. Just shut the **** up.

I agree with this...this is a big issue and it’s much more concerning than the flu. Peoples political leanings are unfortunately giving people a warped perception of the reality of the situation. I’m sure everyone on the forum has family members who are elderly or have already compromised health.
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 09:14 AM

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Luckily everyone in my family over the age of 70 have already passed away.

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 09:27 AM

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Luckily everyone in my family over the age of 70 have already passed away.


Nice!!!
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Luckily everyone in my family over the age of 70 have already passed away.

Today’s positive post of the day!!

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My training in Olympia next week just got cancelled. Thanks, COVID!

(was NOT looking forward to it AT ALL)
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 10:19 AM

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My training in Olympia next week just got cancelled. Thanks, COVID!

(was NOT looking forward to it AT ALL)

You can mow all week now!
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 10:32 AM

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You can mow all week now!


Not with 6-10 inches of snow on the ground.😥
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 10:34 AM

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Even some of the conservative sites are starting to criticize Trump now. This thing is getting really bad.



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Posted 12 March 2020 - 10:49 AM

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Even some of the conservative sites are starting to criticize Trump now. This thing is getting really bad.


He’s f*cked this up pretty royally. Some things transcend politics and this one is one of them. He’s done a piss poor job, trying his best to stick to his antagonist-in-chief schtick and now he’s flailing as the magnitude of it is staring him right in the face. This will probably end up rivaling the months following 9/11 as far as societal impacts, maybe exceeding it.
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Even some of the conservative sites are starting to criticize Trump now. This thing is getting really bad.

 

Yeah, my biggest concern by far is the bad affect this could have on Trump.

 

#liberalconspriracy



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Posted 12 March 2020 - 10:54 AM

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He’s f*cked this up pretty royally. Some things transcend politics and this one is one of them. He’s done a piss poor job, trying his best to stick to his antagonist-in-chief schtick and now he’s flailing as the magnitude of it is staring him right in the face. This will probably end up rivaling the months following 9/11 as far as societal impacts, maybe exceeding it.

 

It's already gone way beyond that, from a global perspective.


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 10:58 AM

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Yeah, my biggest concern by far is the bad affect this could have on Trump.

 

#liberalconspriracy

 

 


It shows you how sick some people in our society are, and I am not talking about physically. Their biggest concern is how this effects Trump.

 

Here is the deal. We have known Trump was an "unconventional" leader for a while now, but as long as times were good the economy was booming, etc... It did not personally effect us. Now we have a legitimate crisis and it is obvious to anyone willing to look that the Emperor has no clothes. This is not about politics anymore as Dewey stated, it is about whether or not people live or die. 


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 10:59 AM

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It's already gone way beyond that, from a global perspective.


Globally yes, nationally no. Good chance it will exceed it though.
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 11:11 AM

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Globally yes, nationally no. Good chance it will exceed it though.

 

A good chance in the short term it will exceed anything we have ever seen. In the long term I think we will see a pretty sharp recovery. 


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Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 11:15 AM

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This is shocking.

 

"In Qom, the spiritual center of Iran's ruling Shiite clerics, more than 846 people have contracted the virus, officials say. Iran's government has not released an official death toll for Qom, however, where about 1.2 million people live. But videos, satellite images and other open-source data from the cemetery - a vast complex six miles north of the city center - suggest that the number of people struck down by the virus there is significantly higher than the official figure."


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Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


#140
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 11:20 AM

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Iran is a good example of what happens without aggressive measures... Italy as well since they acted too late.

 

Hopefully the measures being taken now in the US slow this thing down...

 

https://www.npr.org/...he-u-s-does-not


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 11:22 AM

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Globally yes, nationally no. Good chance it will exceed it though.

 

I think it already has nationally. Huge market crash, all sports essentially cancelled, most large public events, most large companies having their workers stay at home...

 

9/11 was more shocking and immediate. This has been more like a slow motion car crash, with fear, anxiety and impact ratcheting up gradually.

 

From an economic perspective, it's clear this will far exceed the brief dip seen from 9/11.


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 11:32 AM

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Iran is a good example of what happens without aggressive measures... Italy as well since they acted too late.

 

Hopefully the measures being taken now in the US slow this thing down...

 

https://www.npr.org/...he-u-s-does-not

 

Spain and France are following Italy's outbreak closely, just behind by about 4-5 days. The U.S., UK, and most of Europe are about 2-3 days behind that.

 

I hope I'm wrong, but everything now seems to point to this getting pretty ugly here within a week. But we still have time to prepare for the influx of patients in many areas.

 

There are now only 4 states with no confirmed Covid-19 cases.


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 11:48 AM

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Spain and France are following Italy's outbreak closely, just behind by about 4-5 days. The U.S., UK, and most of Europe are about 2-3 days behind that.

 

I hope I'm wrong, but everything now seems to point to this getting pretty ugly here within a week. But we still have time to prepare for the influx of patients in many areas.

 

There are now only 4 states with no confirmed Covid-19 cases.

 

I agree. And we still have people not taking this seriously. The fact the death rate in Italy is nearly 7% should also give us pause.


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2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 11:50 AM

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I agree. And we still have people not taking this seriously. The fact the death rate in Italy is nearly 7% should also give us pause.


Stop with fake stats... this a hoax. Read Rob's posts. Very suspicious stuff!

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 12:01 PM

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Update from my wife as of this morning...
People are nuts. Hopefully Mt. Vernon schools do not close. (Our 6yr old that attends a private school up there follows whatever Mt Vernon public schools do when it comes to delays or closures)
Me: We just need to hang low and try to avoid the public.
My wife: You are part of this fear driven nonsense.
Me: I’m glad schools are shutting down.
My wife: Kids are not affected.
Me: they can be carriers. Do you want your and my parents to potentially die from this?
My wife: This whole thing is dumb. Only people with compromised immune systems should take precautions.
Me: Yeah like my dad!

We have quite the spirited debate going on at home!
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 12:03 PM

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Update from my wife as of this morning...
People are nuts. Hopefully Mt. Vernon schools do not close. (Our 6yr old that attends a private school up there follows whatever Mt Vernon public schools do when it comes to delays or closures)
Me: We just need to hang low and try to avoid the public.
My wife: You are part of this fear driven nonsense.
Me: I’m glad schools are shutting down.
My wife: Kids are not affected.
Me: they can be carriers. Do you want your and my parents to potentially die from this?
My wife: This whole thing is dumb. Only people with compromised immune systems should take precautions.
Me: Yeah like my dad!

We have quite the spirited debate going on at home!


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 12:05 PM

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I know some excellent divorce attorneys.

 

You jest, but...https://www.business...e-cities-2020-3


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 12:06 PM

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Update from my wife as of this morning...
People are nuts. Hopefully Mt. Vernon schools do not close. (Our 6yr old that attends a private school up there follows whatever Mt Vernon public schools do when it comes to delays or closures)
Me: We just need to hang low and try to avoid the public.
My wife: You are part of this fear driven nonsense.
Me: I’m glad schools are shutting down.
My wife: Kids are not affected.
Me: they can be carriers. Do you want your and my parents to potentially die from this?
My wife: This whole thing is dumb. Only people with compromised immune systems should take precautions.
Me: Yeah like my dad!

We have quite the spirited debate going on at home!

 

Isn't she a nurse too?! 


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 12:07 PM

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You know things are getting weird when you glance and see the DOW dropped 2,352 points in one day and you think “eh...”
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#150
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 12:10 PM

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Just read an article saying the reason the death rate in Italy is so high is because of their demographics. 


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill!