June Gloom ..

[richard mann]

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A topic worthy of its on thread. ? .. You decide.
 
— I've figured it is.
 
... And to open up whatever discussion might perhaps ensue further here regarding this theme, here's what "Cliff Mass"—Prof. of Atmospheric Sciences, at the University of Washington—has had to say both, about this subject looked at more generally, together along with also a few things about the first week or so of this current June where looking at the PNW, within his main Blog online. 
 
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2014/06/june-gloom-why-does-it-occur-and-where.html
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mass.html

[TT-SEA]

Might not be a hot topic on here... its been an unusually sunny June this year so far.

[richard mann]

.. Some of the main reason that I'd included the initial note that I have opening it. 

 

This although you have, noted the recent changes to your west just out over the Pacific .. Right. ?

 

http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_vis.php?image=ir&inv=0&t=l12&region=he

 

— But in more direct response to what you've suggested here above Tim, I'd figured - irrespective, that this thread could be visited in and where considering future years perhaps, additionally, also.

[richard mann]

(.. cross-referenced from the main "General" thread the PWN for June. Generally related.)
 
http://theweatherfor...ussion/?p=28755
http://theweatherfor...ussion/?p=28759
http://theweatherfor...e-10#entry28768

[richard mann]

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Here below accessible, is a "gif-loop" sequence that I've generated, made up of 3-hrly images for the past three days, and covering the boarder N. Amer. with Eastern Pacific scope—enhanced IR, with main surface values, e.g. isobars together with main fronts, highs and lows.

http://www.proxigee.com/140610_0000z_satsfc-30.jpg
 
(Click on the image.) Takes a few moments to load in fully. It's 4.5 MB in size.

— Here next below, the chief focuses of my most recent broader scope colder air mass movement / distribution projection submitted.  

 

... main colder air (if only more "cool" at this season point.) [should] move gradually but steadily .. more south daily where finding more specific pathways making this idea possible, through the 12th of June. 
 
[This] ... while at the same time [more longitudinally]... through a period of gradually more slowed pace east where looked at from one day to the next, followed by near the 10th or so, its beginning to move at a more stepped up pace east, [also] through the 12th of June.

[snow_wizard]

This actually hasn't been a bad June at all so far.  A lot more sun than normal.

[richard mann]

This actually hasn't been a bad June at all so far.  A lot more sun than normal.

 

As I don't check them, with my .. minus the models ventured colder air mass projections submitted regularly Jim, ...

 

.. What are the models showing generally at this point where looking more forward. ?

[TheBigOne]

Down here it's been a bit on the humid side actually but a good chunk of the time it has been nice but we couldn't enjoy it due to being booted out of our house from the seller to the inspector looking at it before our move. 

[Jesse]

Down here it's been a bit on the humid side actually but a good chunk of the time it has been nice but we couldn't enjoy it due to being booted out of our house from the seller to the inspector looking at it before our move.

This June has had way less humidity than normal. Lots of Dps in the 40s.

[richard mann]

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Cliff Mass's Blog entry for the 13th.
 
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2014/06/cool-moist-weather-and-happy-seeds.html
 
— Working as a general synopsis conditions wise, centering on the date.

[stuffradio]

Might not be a hot topic on here... its been an unusually sunny June this year so far.

You had to say that. It has been the opposite since the first week of June.

[richard mann]

From "Cliff Mass's" Radio spots, aired on KPLU fridays. This one on June 27th. ...

 

http://www.kplu.org/post/dose-june-gloom-weekend-sunnier-outlook-fourth-july

[richard mann]

Just last year, with my at the time having felt that this topic might have been a good one to isolate more off to the side with having a thread of its own dedicated to it, more "running", I started this one. 

 

Any one from the PNW more main have any thoughts regarding this idea where looking at this June more current. ?

 

.. It would appear leastwise, that the general patterning moving over and impacting the PNW during the past week or so might, perhaps qualify to some extent. You tell me. I'm not there. 

[Abbotsford_wx]

It's been unusually sunny up here. I've had only five days this month with more cloud than sun (the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 12th, and 18th).

 

At this time last year, I'd had 14 days with more cloud than sun (through the 19th).

[Guest happ]

Marine layer has been weak/ disorganized lately.  Higher level cloudiness is forecast for later in the week via monsoon.

[richard mann]

Just for general clarification here regarding the term "June Gloom". 

 

.. Generally associated with the PNW—perhaps someone actually living there more centrally could outline the general aspects of it better than myself, living more south—I'd started this thread mainly with this perspective in mind. 

 

.. This though in fact and if new to me, in line with what "happ" has posted just above, apparently there's a "June Gloom" effect that visits the Coast at least, further south, near to Los Angeles and I'm thinking maybe San Diego more perhaps. 

 

More directed to "happ" more specifically, ... What are its main characteristics would you say "happ". ?

[Guest happ]

Just for general clarification here regarding the term "June Gloom". 

 

.. Generally associated with the PNW—perhaps someone actually living there more centrally could outline the general aspects of it better than myself, living more south—I'd started this thread mainly with this perspective in mind. 

 

.. This though in fact and if new to me, in line with what "happ" has posted just above, apparently there's a "June Gloom" effect that visits the Coast at least, further south, near to Los Angeles and I'm thinking maybe San Diego more perhaps. 

 

More directed to "happ" more specifically, ... What are its main characteristics would you say "happ". ?

 

Here's the common explanation of "June Gloom" in California.  How does this differ from the PacificNW?

 

June Gloom is a southern California term for a weather pattern that results in cloudy, overcast skies with cool temperatures during the late spring and early summer, most commonly in the month of June. Low-altitude stratus clouds are formed over the ocean, then transported over the coastal regions by the wind.^[1] The overcast skies often are accompanied by fog and drizzle, though usually not rain.

June Gloom in southern California is caused by the marine layer effect common to the West Coast,^[2] and is enhanced by the Catalina eddy local to southern California. May and June together are usually the cloudiest months in coastal Southern California.^[3] June Gloom has other colloquial names if the same weather pattern occurs in May, July, or August. June Gloom is stronger in years associated with a La Niña, and weaker or nonexistent in years with an El Niño. This weather pattern occurs in other parts of the world where climates and conditions are similar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_Gloom

[richard mann]

hey  Thanks "happ". 
 
(Academic follow up. That's what I like.)
 

Here's the common explanation of "June Gloom" in California.  How does this differ from the PacificNW?
 
June Gloom is  ...

Not in more specific answer to the main question that you've asked / attached here above more about the PNW definition of the term, but more my general take regarding the idea (theme) more, where looked at more broadly.

I'm figuring that the idea is pretty much the same where considering both regions where looked at more basically. A span of days 4 or 5 days or longer, where conditions are cooler and or wetter than might be hoped for where looking at what might be more in and during late Spring and early Summer.

— This if with, my main thinking here where asking about a better distinction perhaps where considering one region's "June Gloom" set against the other's here, having been certainly, more the idea of what elements more pattern-wise, or otherwise, are or might be involved in generating these conditions.

As I see this idea, where looking more southward to and at where you are more, it would be colder, and either whether or both air and or water's working to offset, where having met with, some main moisture having been generated and having moved up from the south, this if with that cold's not having been strong enough to press that moisture into precipitation. This with then where looking more northward, an episode of more "gloomy" conditions resulting more with a "dirty ridging" type of situation, with the more general building / amplification of whatever ridging not having been "tall" enough yet—with the earlier season still—to press moisture moving more in from the Pacific more westward, more northward. These ideas both and if again, merely my own more general impressions. (No "June Gloom" here where I am.)
 

[Guest happ]

hey  Thanks "happ". 

 

(Academic follow up. That's what I like.)

 

Not in more specific answer to the main question that you've asked / attached here above more about the PNW definition of the term, but more my general take regarding the idea (theme) more, where looked at more broadly.

 

I'm figuring that the idea is pretty much the same where considering both regions where looked at more basically. A span of days 4 or 5 days or longer, where conditions are cooler and or wetter than might be hoped for where looking at what might be more in and during late Spring and early Summer.

 

— This if with, my main thinking here where asking about a better distinction perhaps where considering one region's "June Gloom" set against the other's here, having been certainly, more the idea of what elements more pattern-wise, or otherwise, are or might be involved in generating these conditions.

 

As I see this idea, where looking more southward to and at where you are more, it would be colder, and either whether or both air and or water's working to offset, where having met with, some main moisture having been generated and having moved up from the south, this if with that cold's not having been strong enough to press that moisture into precipitation. This with then where looking more northward, an episode of more "gloomy" conditions resulting more with a "dirty ridging" type of situation, with the more general building / amplification of whatever ridging not having been "tall" enough yet—with the earlier season still—to press moisture moving more in from the Pacific more westward, more northward. These ideas both and if again, merely my own more general impressions. (No "June Gloom" here where I am.)

 

 

"(No "June Gloom" here where I am.)"

 

Looks like lots of 'June Heat' up in northern California. Have you exceeded 100F at your elevation yet?  With the spread of cumulonimbus clouds and much higher dew points later this week, the temps should lower down here [though minimums may stay on the warm side].

 

As ocean temps warm, stratus has a more difficult time forming down here by July.

[richard mann]

Looks like lots of 'June Heat' up in northern California. Have you exceeded 100F at your elevation yet?

About 90° currently here, more only.

 

93° in Chico down the hill and to the West.

 

Supposed to be 100°, and 103° in Chico, tomorrow and the next day.

 

— More main theme here, main cold air moving south and at a slower if significant pace more east, is appearing to be working to put the PNW under a situation somewhat like I'd described above, right now. (And so, to some perhaps approaching the idea of a "June Gloom".) For us further south, more working to "box in" or "corral" the main seasonal heat being generated, more south, with its general access more northward being restricted.

[Guest happ]

About 90° currently here, more only.

 

93° in Chico down the hill and to the West.

 

Supposed to be 100°, and 103° in Chico, tomorrow and the next day.

 

— More main theme here, main cold air moving south and at a slower if significant pace more east, is appearing to be working to put the PNW under a situation somewhat like I'd described above, right now. (And so, to some perhaps approaching the idea of a "June Gloom".) For us further south, more working to "box in" or "corral" the main seasonal heat being generated, more south, with its general access more northward being restricted.

 

Richard, what has been the hottest max so far this year in Paradise?  Only 95° [June 8th] here but 100 degree heat is fairly common at least once/ twice each month from July through October.  

[richard mann]

I think about right on 100°. 

[richard mann]

Cliff Mass's look at this year, "June Gloom" focused. 
 
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2015/06/june-without-gloom.html

[Guest happ]

Cliff Mass's look at this year, "June Gloom" focused. 

 

http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2015/06/june-without-gloom.html

 

Essentially the same conditions exist along the West Coast that cause 'June Gloom'.  But stratus doesn't reach as far inland in California compared to the PacificNW.   

[richard mann]

Right.

 

Add to what's been pointed to above more elemental "cause/s" wise, ...

 

.. More essentially (if you will.), whatever "June Gloom", being the result of main colder air mass, still holding significant sway where considering general conditions—where looked at either whether north or south.

 

.. Is what I'm noting. 

 

— This with its otherwise, finding some amount of significant moisture to offset, to varying degrees. ...