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November 2014 Observations for the Pacific Northwest

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 05:52 PM

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Already down to 3 at Redmond.

 

Tonight should be a touch colder than last night east of the Cascades.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 05:52 PM

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( .. with reference to http://theweatherfor...p=42065)

More climatologically speaking (multi-decadal timeframe.) broader scope, fuller U.S. and beyond looked at more longitudinally, … With main and more primary cold's increasingly better consolidation (i.e. stores.) north through higher latitudes poleward over the years more recent, these more impressive temperatures registering, should logically continue to be the case. 
 
Slightly less "stable", and steered differently last year, the "polar vortex", ect. more through the East. This year, our getting more of a share of this more dense cold, perhaps. My thinking leastwise.


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 05:56 PM

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The cold airmass has reached Lakeview. They were 45 last night at this time, and 19 tonight.

 

http://www.wrh.noaa....aw=0&banner=off



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:10 PM

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Tonight should be a touch colder than last night east of the Cascades.


Could get pretty ridiculous in spots with deep snow cover.

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:13 PM

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Could get pretty ridiculous in spots with deep snow cover.

Seems like Seneca could get crazy cold.

 

They had a high of 35 yesterday and it was 19 at 6 PM and it got down to -23 last night.

 

Today their high was 6 and it's -4 at 6 PM.


Everett Snowfall

 

2018-19: 24.75"

2019-20: 10.5"

 

1/10: 0.5"

1/12: 5.5"

1/13: 1"

1/14: 1.5"

1/15: 2"

 

 


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:17 PM

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We were down in Salem to watch a cross country meet today. On the way home driving north on 205 through Portland and I was surprised to see some sleet or snow in the shade of some overpasses. It really surprised me. It could've just been some leftover frost.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:20 PM

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We were down in Salem to watch a cross country meet today. On the way home driving north on 205 through Portland and I was surprised to see some sleet or snow in the shade of some overpasses. It really surprised me. It could've just been some leftover frost.

 

Yeah there are still some left over patches of white in the shade from 11/13.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:24 PM

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The record low report from NWS this morning speaks to the power of 1955. Only four record lows this morning and three were from stations that missed 1955. Long Creek was not reporting that month, and Pelton Dam and Whitman Mission hadn't come online yet.

 

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PENDLETON OR
1042 AM PST SAT NOV 15 2014

...NEW DAILY RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES FOR NOVEMBER 15TH...

NOTE: STATIONS MARKED WITH * INDICATE THAT THE STATION REPORTS ONCE
PER DAY. FOR CONSISTENCY...THESE VALUES ARE CONSIDERED TO HAVE
OCCURRED ON THE DAY THE OBSERVATION WAS TAKEN BUT MAY HAVE ACTUALLY
OCCURRED (ESPECIALLY FOR MAX TEMPERATURE) ON THE PREVIOUS DAY.

STATION                  PREVIOUS        NEW        RECORDS
                         RECORD/YEAR     RECORD     BEGAN

*LONG CREEK, OR          11 / 1978       -8         1908
MEACHAM, OR             -12 / 1955      -16         1929
*PELTON DAM, OR           7 / 1978        5         1958
*WHITMAN MISSION, WA      7 / 1978        4         1962



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:27 PM

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pdx dls gradient dropped to 5 mb. pdx is at 34 currently it should get pretty cold there tonight.  I just notices that their record lows for the next 3 nights, including tonight is just 31. they should have no problem shattering that tonight.  the next record to watch for is there all time november low of 23.  I don't think they hit that tonight, but they may be flirting with it.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:30 PM

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I have seen a lot of references to 1955 this winter as they had a very cold november as well.  Wasn't that the mother of all winters in the NW?  I haven't seen the usual analog charts post yet this winter.  does anyone have access to those? and has 1955 popped up on any of those lately?



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:41 PM

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pdx dls gradient dropped to 5 mb. pdx is at 34 currently it should get pretty cold there tonight.  I just notices that their record lows for the next 3 nights, including tonight is just 31. they should have no problem shattering that tonight.  the next record to watch for is there all time november low of 23.  I don't think they hit that tonight, but they may be flirting with it.

 

I think their all-time November low is 8. With all due respect I think you were looking at October records...


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:41 PM

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OLY already down to 28.


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:42 PM

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I have seen a lot of references to 1955 this winter as they had a very cold november as well.  Wasn't that the mother of all winters in the NW?  I haven't seen the usual analog charts post yet this winter.  does anyone have access to those? and has 1955 popped up on any of those lately?

 

The winter of 1955-56 was a pretty good winter in the PNW. The most notable cold snap was in November while the biggest snow was in February. I only have the stats for seattle but Seattle got 24.2" of snow that winter with 6" in November, 6.1" in December, .4" in January, 9.4" in February, and 2.3" in March. 

In November it featured a mean temperature of 38.9, In december the mean temp was 38.4, January's mean was 39.0 and Februarys was 35.7. 
 

Here are some the highs and lows from the November 1955 cold snap at Sea-tac:

 

Date      High     Low     

11/11      38        15

11/12      21        13

11/13      23        14

11/14      23        9

11/15      24        6

11/16      31        21

11/17      31        23



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:46 PM

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The winter of 1955-56 was a pretty good winter in the PNW. The most notable cold snap was in November while the biggest snow was in February. I only have the stats for seattle but Seattle got 24.2" of snow that winter with 6" in November, 6.1" in December, .4" in January, 9.4" in February, and 2.3" in March. 

In November it featured a mean temperature of 38.9, In december the mean temp was 38.4, January's mean was 39.0 and Februarys was 35.7. 
 

Here are some the highs and lows from the November 1955 cold snap at Sea-tac:

 

Date      High     Low     

11/11      38        15

11/12      21        13

11/13      23        14

11/14      23        9

11/15      24        6

11/16      31        21

11/17      31        23

was it 1950-51 that was epic then?  I know there was one in the 50's that was huge



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:47 PM

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I think their all-time November low is 8. With all due respect I think you were looking at October records...

Im not sure what the best site for records is, but they seemed awfully warm so I wouldnt doubt these are wrong, but they say november. 

 

http://www.intellica...cation=USOR0275



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:51 PM

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OLY already down to 28.

 

OLM ;)



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:52 PM

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was it 1950-51 that was epic then?  I know there was one in the 50's that was huge

 

1949-50 was the holy grail of the "airport era".



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I think their all-time November low is 8. With all due respect I think you were looking at October records...

Upon further review, I don't know what the website that was the 2nd on google was thinking... It is way off. 13 tonight for pdx which it will not be close to.

 

In other news, I took a drive this evening in the hills near my house and the roads which are most shaded are still a sheet of ice, and have been since thursday.  it got up to 34 at my house today and everything untouched by the sun is frozen.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:53 PM

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34 and holding here.  Would love to see the wind stop for once overnight so we can get really cold.  It was close last night and I dropped to 21, but areas near Brush Prairie were 17, and even VUO was 19.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:54 PM

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Im not sure what the best site for records is, but they seemed awfully warm so I wouldnt doubt these are wrong, but they say november. 

 

http://www.intellica...cation=USOR0275

 

Try this:

 

http://www.wrh.noaa....imate/index.php



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:56 PM

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We were down in Salem to watch a cross country meet today. On the way home driving north on 205 through Portland and I was surprised to see some sleet or snow in the shade of some overpasses. It really surprised me. It could've just been some leftover frost.

 

I noticed the same thing coming into town late this afternoon. Does anyone know if PDX officially recorded any frozen precip?



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:56 PM

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I did end up with 40/18. Not bad. I decoupled almost immediately after sunset. Currently 20. 


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:00 PM

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Yes, the reported -SN Thursday morning and many instances of ice pellets etc.

 

I still have a dusting of snow in the shade here at my house. 

 

Funny how many times I remember several inches of snow going by the wayside in hours it seemed, yet a dusting can last days.

I noticed the same thing coming into town late this afternoon. Does anyone know if PDX officially recorded any frozen precip?



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:06 PM

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Yes, the reported -SN Thursday morning and many instances of ice pellets etc.

 

I still have a dusting of snow in the shade here at my house. 

 

Funny how many times I remember several inches of snow going by the wayside in hours it seemed, yet a dusting can last days.

 

I guess I'm curious if they actually measured anything "official".

 

It's pretty funny how tenacious the dusting around the metro area appears to have been. Thank the very dry air and cool temps. It's a shame Portland/Vancouver didn't receive a decent snowfall on 11/13. It would have stuck around for several days.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:06 PM

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was it 1950-51 that was epic then?  I know there was one in the 50's that was huge

 

50-51 was epic in the sense that Sea-Tac got 18.2" of snow in march but the winter you are thinking of is 49-50 which gave sea-tac 63.6" of snow for the season. 6" fell in December, 57.2" fell in January, and .4" fell in february with a trace in march and april. 

 

That winter has an average December temperature of 36.4 and an average January temperature of 24.9. 

 

Days with record cold temps set in January-February 1950

Date       High     Low    

1/2          24        6

1/3                      6

1/4                     14

 

1/13        19       11

1/14        16       8

1/15        21       15

1/16        22       13

1/17        24       15

1/18        25       9

 

1/24        26       10

1/25        24       7

 

1/28        22       7

1/29        24       6

1/30        22       7

1/31        20       0      All time low

2/1          27       1

2/2                     8

2/3                     8

 

Gaps are where record were set in other years. 



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:14 PM

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Already down to 26 degrees after a high of 40 and a low this morning of 20. My weather station was reading a Relative Humidity of 22% and a DP of 4 degrees. Not something you see very often in mid November! Tomorrow I plan on mowing my frozen Tundra before things start returning to normal dewy wetness.

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:18 PM

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-9 at Redmond on the hour.


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:25 PM

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Love all this seasonal variety!   

 

Gorgeous warm summer (probably the best ever) and now crisp and cold for a long time in November (of all months).

 

Just need some Christmas snow and it will be a perfect cap to an awesome year.

 

(Note that I celebrate both sides unlike some of you insanely single-minded individuals!)


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:27 PM

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Seneca and Crow Flat are at -9 as well out in E. Oregon. Prairie City is at -5 in the upper John Day valley. 


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:38 PM

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I have seen a lot of references to 1955 this winter as they had a very cold november as well.  Wasn't that the mother of all winters in the NW?  I haven't seen the usual analog charts post yet this winter.  does anyone have access to those? and has 1955 popped up on any of those lately?

1950 was the winter to compare all winters with in the Willamette Valley at least.  60+ inches of snow in Portland, with a couple of ice storms mixed in.  Many record lows were set, such as Oregon City at -2f Feb 1 or 2 (can't remember).  It was historic and I suppose the word epic could be used.  My Dad talked about that winter for as far back as I could remember.  I was born the next June so I just missed it. 



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:40 PM

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Seneca and Crow Flat are at -9 as well out in E. Oregon. Prairie City is at -5 in the upper John Day valley.

Seems like Seneca might have a shot at -30.

At this time last night they were at +18 and they dropped to -23. It's already -12 there!

http://www.wrh.noaa....32&num=72&raw=0


Everett Snowfall

 

2018-19: 24.75"

2019-20: 10.5"

 

1/10: 0.5"

1/12: 5.5"

1/13: 1"

1/14: 1.5"

1/15: 2"

 

 


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:40 PM

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.. Relatively mild here more south this evening. 55°F with more or less clear skies. 

 

-http://www.atmos.washington.edu/weather/sat.shtml


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:44 PM

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I guess I'm curious if they actually measured anything "official".

 

It's pretty funny how tenacious the dusting around the metro area appears to have been. Thank the very dry air and cool temps. It's a shame Portland/Vancouver didn't receive a decent snowfall on 11/13. It would have stuck around for several days.

 

In almost all cases, it was covered by a layer of ice be it by ZR or sleet making it a lot more hearty.  


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:46 PM

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In almost all cases, it was covered by a layer of ice be it by ZR or sleet making it a lot more hearty.  

 

 

I have snow last for a long time here in the shade... even when its in the 50s assuming the dewpoint is below freezing.  

 

One hour of rain and it disappears.


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:49 PM

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I have snow last for a long time here in the shade... even when its in the 50s assuming the dewpoint is below freezing.  

 

One hour of rain and it disappears.

 

Yeah, but in the case of Thursday, no one here got any more than a dusting, except for the Washougal highlands.  The crustiness gives it a nice fortitude.  In fact, most of the snow that fell in the Vancouver proper was predominantly mixed with sleet.  One of the unusual aspects of the event was the fact we kept the sleet profile for so long.  It's typically pretty transient.  


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 08:03 PM

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Yeah, but in the case of Thursday, no one here got any more than a dusting, except for the Washougal highlands.  The crustiness gives it a nice fortitude.  In fact, most of the snow that fell in the Vancouver proper was predominantly mixed with sleet.  One of the unusual aspects of the event was the fact we kept the sleet profile for so long.  It's typically pretty transient.  

 

There's still white accumulations of sleet and snow in shady areas of rooftops and lawns around here. On Thursday evening I went for a walk and the trees were crackling... there was definitely some significant ice accumulation on everything except the streets.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 09:11 PM

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OT, but has anyone watched the lake effect vids from last week? Some places in Wisconsin picked up over 5 feet of snow under 3-5"/hr rates. Next week looks even crazier in NY/PA.
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Posted 15 November 2014 - 09:13 PM

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Got down to 28 for a while around 6pm before east winds started. Up to 33.3 now. I guess I'm not gonna make it down to the teens tonight. :P 



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 09:15 PM

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OT, but has anyone watched the lake effect vids from last week? Some places in Wisconsin picked up over 5 feet of snow under 3-5"/hr rates. Next week looks even crazier in NY/PA.

 

Rule of thumb. If a post starts with "OT, but..." maybe you shouldn't post it.


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 09:24 PM

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00Z doesn't look very blocky.

 

Down to 27 here!



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 09:26 PM

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OT, but has anyone watched the lake effect vids from last week? Some places in Wisconsin picked up over 5 feet of snow under 3-5"/hr rates. Next week looks even crazier in NY/PA.

 

Relative of mine posted this from WI...

 

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 09:34 PM

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..... has anyone watched the lake effect vids from last week? Some places in Wisconsin picked up over 5 feet of snow under 3-5"/hr rates. Next week looks even crazier in NY/PA.

 

... Relevant to the PNW how exactly, as a general focus and preface fine .... but ....


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 09:47 PM

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I have snow last for a long time here in the shade... even when its in the 50s assuming the dewpoint is below freezing.  

 

One hour of rain and it disappears.

 

South wind is the biggest killer. Get some 30mph gusts and that'll kill a ton of snow in a hurry.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 09:55 PM

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South wind is the biggest killer. Get some 30mph gusts and that'll kill a ton of snow in a hurry.

 

 

True... that is probably the biggest way it disappears fast with rain or not.


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 10:08 PM

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My 25" of snow depth in January 2012 disappeared in about 36 hours. 


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Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 10:46 PM

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Redmond down to -14 now!



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 11:02 PM

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Anyone on here that attended the AMS Winter Weather Forecast Conference this year? They announced the "Snowflake Contest" winners today and I was curious if anyone on here took the 1st place prize!? Of course we all know that PDX recorded "-SN" on 11/13 at 5:53am. Looks like the winner predicted PDX's first snowflakes on 11/10. I was barely squeaked out of first place with a predicted date of 11/17. After recording a record warm early fall, I thought I was the only crazy one to predict snowfall so early in the season!


Cold Season 2019/20:

Total snowfall: 143.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 12.0"

Highest snow depth: 15.0"

Coldest high: 12.0º

Coldest low: -9.1º

Number of subzero days: 3

 

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 11:03 PM

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Redmond just hit -15, breaking the previous record of -14 for this date set in 1955.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 11:12 PM

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What is Redmond's all time November record? Didn't they come just one degree from breaking their all-time low last December?


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 11:15 PM

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-15 at Redmond appears to be a new all-time November record low.


Snowfall                                  Precip

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 36.14" 

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill!