TT-SEA Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 February 1956 was pretty good up here. Snow cover all, but two days that month. http://climate.usurf.usu.edu/reports/e15daily.php?stn=USC00357809&year=1956&month=2&unit=EN&network=direct:ghcn&sidebar=0 Those measurements are so strange. 7.99 inches of snow on the ground?? How did you get that nice monthly view?? All I can get there are CSV and EXCEL files in an ugly format. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Those measurements are so strange. 7.99 inches of snow on the ground?? How did you get that nice monthly view?? All I can get there are CSV and EXCEL files in an ugly format. Yeah, Idk why all the measurements are like with the Utah State data. I get that monthly view on the Utah State climate site. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Through hour 90 the 12z is slightly faster with the cold air. I don't know that it is going to be any colder than previous runs though. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Very subtle differences through hour 117, but the differences that exist are slightly faster and colder. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Timing looks sped up a little on everything including overrunning. The overrunning looks a bit further south though on the 12z. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Timing looks sped up a little on everything including overrunning. The overrunning looks a bit further south though on the 12z. The further south that overrunning can go the better. Better chance for us to stay colder longer. Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 The 12z definitely looks better for the overrunning event. Northern Washington stays snow for quite a while on this run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 12z shows a huge snow storm for PDX. HR 180-186 PDX-DLS of at least 10mb with copious moisture. I also notice the low offshore hasn't progressed north much if any, yet. Hmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 12Z Canadian shows the undercut happening WAY south... like through California. http://weather.gc.ca/data/model_forecast/colour_images/12_054_G1_north@america@zoomout_I_4PAN_CLASSIC@012_144.jpg Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 12Z Canadian shows the undercut happening WAY south... like through California. http://weather.gc.ca/data/model_forecast/colour_images/12_054_G1_north@america@zoomout_I_4PAN_CLASSIC@012_144.jpgIf so, we stay way colder for much longer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 If so, we stay way colder for much longer.... Yep. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 12z WRF looks icy cold for PDX/Gorge7:00 AM Wednesdayhttp://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/2014020112/images_d2/slp.99.0000.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Here is the total snow through 72 hours going into the cold air mass per the 12Z WRF: http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/current_gfs/images_d2/msnow72.84.0000.gif Nada. GFS MOS has SEA at 40/27 on Monday with sunshine. That will seem like nothing but a nice day to the vast majority of people. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted February 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 12z has -15C 850s next Friday for up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Hole Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 At least for people near the gorge the map Tim posted has snow in the gorge and basin. It will help to keep temperatures down. Quote Winter 23-24: Total Snow (3.2") Total Ice (0.2") Coldest Low: 1F Coldest High: 5F Snow Events: 0.1" Jan 5th, 0.2" Jan 9th, 1.6" Jan 14, 0.2" (ice) Jan 22, 1.3" Feb 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Here is the total snow through 72 hours going into the cold air mass per the 12Z WRF: GFS MOS has SEA at 40/27 on Monday with sunshine. That will seem like nothing but a nice day to the vast majority of people. Unfortunately you are right. For most people this coming week will be cold yet pretty nice weather. Nothing really memorable without snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Finally something for you guys to track. Looks like I'll be making more visits over here to look at your guys' discussions. Hope you guys get some snowfall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Why show precip maps for Monday - Wednesday when no moisture or snow was really ever expected during that time frame. It'll be after day 7-8. Are you just literally looking for things to be negative about? Stop it. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Why show precip maps for Monday - Wednesday when no moisture or snow was really ever expected during that time frame. It'll be after day 7-8. Are you just literally looking for things to be negative about? Stop it. Thanks. Because there was some chance of snow going in. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Because there was some chance of snow going in. Well sure, but just a dusting maybe... low is tracking it appears too far inland to be of much help there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscz1140 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Because there was some chance of snow going in. There is still "some chance." (due to a convergence zone, a small low spinning up at the last second, etc.) The models are just models, it's not like it has already happened! There may not be a great chance, but it can't be totally ruled out at this point. ....and it's a good thing you don't work at the suicide hotline! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 There is still "some chance." (due to a convergence zone, a small low spinning up at the last second, etc.) The models are just models, it's not like it has already happened! There may not be a great chance, but it can't be totally ruled out at this point. ....and it's a good thing you don't work at the suicide hotline! Yes... there is a small chance. But we will not be going into this cold snap with snow cover... such as in 1989 which made a huge difference. Even if there was a dusting it would promptly melt in 40-degree sunshine on Monday. A total shame to waste the second arctic outbreak of the winter with absolutely nothing on the ground. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 There is still "some chance." (due to a convergence zone, a small low spinning up at the last second, etc.) The models are just models, it's not like it has already happened! There may not be a great chance, but it can't be totally ruled out at this point. ....and it's a good thing you don't work at the suicide hotline! Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 No snow going into the blast once again, this sucks. Without snow on the ground I really could care less about how cold it gets and cold temp stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Yes... there is a small chance. But we will not be going into this cold snap with snow cover... such as in 1989 which made a huge difference. Even if there was a dusting it would promptly melt in 40-degree sunshine on Monday. A total shame to waste the second arctic outbreak of the winter with absolutely nothing on the ground. Do you realize how you may be absolutely buried in snow with this? Don't rule out the possibility, but you'd rather look for negatives. Why do you do this? Is it nervousness about not getting anything? Like a [Weenie] tantrum of sorts, or what? It's getting annoying and kind of kills the atmosphere here. I've seen other say it so many times, and I never did, or perhaps didn't notice to that extent, but I do now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Do you realize how you may be absolutely buried in snow with this? Don't rule out the possibility, but you'd rather look for negatives. Why do you do this? Is it nervousness about not getting anything? Like a [Weenie] tantrum of sorts, or what? I won't be buried in snow until a transition event... which is not something that excites me. And I am fine with sunny and cold... but when comparing to events like 1989 this sort of sucks. I think its worth noting that we are mitigating (wasting) the potential here during the heart of the cold air with a bare ground almost everywhere. The difference it has on the tangible effect this week will be HUGE. What are the odds that this would happen twice in one winter?? Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I won't be buried in snow until a transition event... which is not something that excites me. I think its worth noting that we are mitigating (wasting) the potential here during the heart of the cold air with a bare ground almost everywhere. The difference it has on the tangible effect this week will be HUGE. What are the odds that this would happen twice in one winter?? Okay, I along with probably everyone else realizes we likely won't see much moisture/snow as the cold air and arctic front passes south. I get that. Oh well. No point continously focusing on this. So, what's wrong with moisture arriving after day 7? At least we get something. Would you prefer just to get nothing at all then. It seems like it. I prefer NOT to focus on negative aspect of things, but you can't get out your own way doing so. Why. Why. Why. Relax. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Just following up on what we thought was an incredible snow event for the lowlands next weekend... the 00Z WRF has the transition happening already by Saturday morning and the totals are not that crazy. http://s29.postimg.org/h3dzf1ao7/snow1.png Already scouring the cold air by 4 a.m. on Saturday: http://s27.postimg.org/djb1sdt83/snow2.png The flow is SW... not offshore... and that kills the snow chances quickly. ECMWF showed this as well. Models always show this. Yawn. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van city Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Do you realize how you may be absolutely buried in snow with this? Don't rule out the possibility, but you'd rather look for negatives. Why do you do this? Is it nervousness about not getting anything? Like a [Weenie] tantrum of sorts, or what? It's getting annoying and kind of kills the atmosphere here. I've seen other say it so many times, and I never did, or perhaps didn't notice to that extent, but I do now.Well said Rob, I think he needs to grow up a bit it's weather after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monty67 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I had a few wet snow flakes mixed in with some snow grains this morning. There was a trace on the deck railing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 It just is amazing to me that we could go into this cold of airmass with little to no snow again. Extreme, the question is what will the other end of extreme bring our way? ridiculous over running event? possible. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Winterdog Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Still chilly day 5: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 It just is amazing to me that we could go into this cold of airmass with little to no snow again. Extreme, the question is what will the other end of extreme bring our way? ridiculous over running event? possible. The ensemble mean shows 850s bottoming out at -17 now. That is the coldest at this time of year in a long time. There will probably be one or two days with highs in the 20s. The 850s don't go above -5C on the ensemble until the 9th. Going to be quite impressive from a cold stand point. Absolutely no way of knowing how much snow we may see at the end. The only real analog is 1932-33. That one had a slight dusting going into the Feb cold wave, but nothing coming out of it. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Still chilly day 5: -17C for Seattle. Colder than the December event. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 The ensemble mean shows 850s bottoming out at -17 now. That is the coldest at this time of year in a long time. There will probably be one or two days with highs in the 20s. The 850s don't go above -5C on the ensemble until the 9th. Going to be quite impressive from a cold stand point. Absolutely no way of knowing how much snow we may see at the end. The only real analog is 1932-33. That one had a slight dusting going into the Feb cold wave, but nothing coming out of it.I can tell you are excited with your crazy quoting format! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Models always show this. Yawn. Indeed. Way too eager to bring south winds into the interior. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I can tell you are excited with your crazy quoting format! With what? Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Winterdog Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 This appears like the cold is hanging on a bit longer than the last run although the temps reflect those at 4am as opposed to 4pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poulsbo Snowman Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 The only thing for sure this year is that the whole West Coast is in the midst of a winter drought. There's been both cold and torching, but dry. Venn diagram that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 With what?Oh, the first time the page loaded your reply was all mixed up within the quote you were replying too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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