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Definitely picking up out there now. I'm guessing this obscure clipper will outperform yesterday.

This little vort definitely had overperformance potential l, especially because there’s just a little bit of low level cape which should increase rates in those squalls. Very small spatial extent, but should have fairly heavy rates.

2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha)

TOTAL: 10.2"

(12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") 

(1/1: 6.4")

 

 

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What the ****? To anyone on radar, look how the band literally DODGED Lincoln at the last moment. Story of our lives. Still not too bad here, Pretty thrilling even though we won't pick up much now.

I redact the bolded part. Maybe 5 minutes of moderate snow then it went away and the sun came out. It's ridiculous how that seems to happen every time there's a decent shot at good snow coming towards here.

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Picked up a solid inch overnight.  Nice to see on the ground.  Amazingly the NAM nailed this storm from almost the first time it came into it's range.  The Euro was back and forth and in the end was pretty far off for Eastern Iowa anyways.  Definitely missed the secondary wave today that is now hitting the Omaha area.  

 

THIS! x100

 

Did they fix the NAM or something? let's hope so, otherwise we'll rely on it next storm and be led off a cliff of despair, lol

 

Scored the white hatched zone on my first event. Hope that's a sign of the times

 

20181109 WPC d1 map.gif

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Definitely picking up out there now. I'm guessing this obscure clipper will outperform yesterday. 

 

y'all are giving me positive vibes for parts 2 & 3 of this storm over the Mitt

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Bumper to Bumper from west omaha all the way to downtown! What a nightmare.

The morning commute here was an absolute **** show, took me 70 minutes to go from 132nd and Harrison to 72nd and Ames (normally a 15-20 minute drive). It looks like we picked up over an inch of snow (maybe close to 2 in some spots where the heavier bursts lingered) from this clipper/system, the timing was perfect to wreck the morning commute for sure.

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y'all are giving me positive vibes for parts 2 & 3 of this storm over the Mitt

 

Liking this obscure Meso model I have rarely looked at, and the way it keeps the 997 SLP closer to Michigan over night. 12km NAM is similar and prolly the next best look. 

 

20181109 WRF-NMM 4am Sat.PNG

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Most of our half inch is gone already, despite the temp in the upper 20s.

 

Same here when I peeked out. The morning's snow was a stream running thru the parking lot

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Its a snowy day here in SEMI. Alittle ova an inch fell. More like 1.3" or so.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Liking this obscure Meso model I have rarely looked at, and the way it keeps the 997 SLP closer to Michigan over night. 12km NAM is similar and prolly the next best look. 

 

attachicon.gif20181109 WRF-NMM 4am Sat.PNG

I might be seeing that as well Jaster. Its going to get fun tanite.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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The morning commute here was an absolute **** show, took me 70 minutes to go from 132nd and Harrison to 72nd and Ames. It looks like we picked up over an inch of snow (maybe close to 2 in some spots where the heavier bursts lingered) from this clipper/system, the timing was perfect to wreck the morning commute for sure.

Holy cow that sucks! It took me all but 3 minutes to get to school this morning, just saying  :lol: ! Of course I only have to drive 6 blocks to work. Was the visibility that bad this morning for you or just the idiot drivers? 

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Holy cow that sucks! It took me all but 3 minutes to get to school this morning, just saying :lol: ! Of course I only have to drive 6 blocks to work. Was the visibility that bad this morning for you or just the idiot drivers?

The freeway was a literal sheet of ice and it was impossible to drive over 20 without sliding out.

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Holy cow that sucks! It took me all but 3 minutes to get to school this morning, just saying :lol: ! Of course I only have to drive 6 blocks to work. Was the visibility that bad this morning for you or just the idiot drivers?

Very icy roads (only saw one plow/sand truck) during my one hour plus commute, coupled with a bunch of commuters that completely forgot how to drive in winter weather spelled a disaster on the roads in Omaha this morning.

 

I have driven in much worse conditions in the past here in the city, and it hasn’t taken me half as long to get somewhere as it did this morning. The event timing was terrible to say the least.

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Per APX earlier today

 

 

 

It should get a bit more interesting this afternoon and tonight
however as aforementioned short-wave becomes negatively tilted and
digs through lower Michigan with surface low cyclogenesis
occurring across the northern lower Michigan/Lake Huron region.
Latest guidance continue to show a nicely defined theta-e
axis/trowal feature wrapping up through lower Michigan into the
tip of the mitt/straits/eastern U.P. this afternoon/evening
before pivoting back down through lower Michigan later tonight.
Combined with increasing low level convergence along the surface
low/trough...we should get a decent uptick in precip rates along
those features this afternoon and persisting through tonight.
Throw in lake enhanced elements coming off Lake Huron, as well as
off Lake Michigan pivoting back into parts of NW lower Michigan,
still believe STORM TOTAL amounts of 5 to 7 inches today/tonight
combined are doable across the tip of the mitt/NW lower Michigan
and the eastern U.P. Lesser amounts across the E/SE counties where
lower QPF totals and warmer daytime temperatures will play a
role.

No headline changes planned at this time. Will see how things play
out over the next several hours.

 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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The band coming onshore off Lake Michigan has been mostly a mix.  Nothing really sticking. 

 

Yikes. Worst timing tho with the marginal temps. 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Snow has ended, but its a raw, cold day w temps at 35F.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Ya ready?! :D

 

Are you? :lol:

 

http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/Surface36hr/r03_ICast.gif

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Are you? :lol:

 

http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/Surface36hr/r03_ICast.gif

You betta believe I am! :D WHOA.....looks impressive!

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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20ft visibility in ironwood mi area....saw a report claiming 6in in under an hour!

 

Epic stuff there wow!

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENational Weather Service Marquette MI929 PM EST Fri Nov 9 2018MIZ005-101200-/O.CON.KMQT.WS.W.0010.000000T0000Z-181110T1200Z/Marquette-Including the cities of Gwinn and Marquette929 PM EST Fri Nov 9 2018...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 AM ESTSATURDAY...* WHAT...Heavy snow and considerable blowing snow. Additional snow  accumulations of 4 to 10 inches are expected, greatest over  higher terrain from the Michigamme Highlands through Negaunee to  Skandia. Lesser amounts of 1 to 3 inches are expected south and  west of Republic and Gwinn. Winds gusting as high as 45 mph  will create localized blizzard conditions in blowing snow.* WHERE...Marquette County.* WHEN...Until 7 AM EST Saturday.* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel will be very difficult and is  discouraged. Widespread blowing snow will create whiteout  conditions at times.

 

For Da Yoopers, that's just code for "leave the truck, take the sled"

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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20ft visibility in ironwood mi area....saw a report claiming 6in in under an hour!

 

22" Report SW of Hurley

 

20181109 UP Snowfall.PNG

 

 

Can hear the winds kicking up here in Marshall now.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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22" Report SW of Hurley

 

attachicon.gif20181109 UP Snowfall.PNG

 

 

Can hear the winds kicking up here in Marshall now.

You've been getting pounded amigo!  I just saw the radar loop from last night and your area has been under that band since last night.  How much have you got so far?

 

 

Current conditions at Kalamazoo/Battle Creek International Airport (KAZO)Lat: 42.23°NLon: 85.55°WElev: 863ft.
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Heavy Snow Freezing Fog

26°F

-3°C

 

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You've been getting pounded amigo!  I just saw the radar loop from last night and your area has been under that band since last night.  How much have you got so far?

 

 

Current conditions at Kalamazoo/Battle Creek International Airport (KAZO) Lat: 42.23°NLon: 85.55°WElev: 863ft.
nsn.png

Heavy Snow Freezing Fog

26°F

-3°C

 

 

 

Haha amigo. It's early and I guess you will see my answer in the Nov thd. Thought when I came back in here I had left off in this thd. Prolly cuz I saw WMJim's post there, lol

 

I'll be interested to see BC's snow totals. They regularly double mby's since their recording station is on the NW side of town and they score a lot more LES. There's some down sloping effects due to the Kzoo river valley between there and here at my place in Marshall. If my elevation were higher than their's I'd likely do almost as well as them. As a for instance, in the Dec '09 bliz they scored a solid foot while here it was closer to 9" and that's perhaps the best LES hit since I've been here 10 yrs now.

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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ORD officially tacked on 1.0" of snow and that is the earliest 1" since Oct 19th 1989.

Also the first time there's been a 1" snow in the first 10 days of November since 1966. Looks like ORD benefitted from being farther away from the core of the city because Midway only had like 0.5"

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