April 2019 Weather Discussion in the PNW

[antipex]

Cool and clear this morning with a nice sunrise. 40.

 

39 here this morning... had to turn the heat back on!

[ShawniganLake]

I haven’t looked outside but the radar suggests it’s raining

[Jesse]

I haven’t looked outside but the radar suggests it’s raining

Might avoid driest April on record?

[TacomaWaWx]

Well Wednesday and Thursday look alright up here this week. Gonna go kayaking those days then been awhile since the weathers been decent enough. Cloudy morning here again and 45 with rain on the way in a few hours. Overall looking at the weather models it seems that there’s overall still chances for rain over the next 10 days but breaks in between which is nice. Seems Less persistent and gloomy than the pattern to start April off.

[ShawniganLake]

Might avoid driest April on record?

Will likely end up pretty close to average. I’m at a little over 2” on the month and average is about 2.75”.

[TT-SEA]

Will likely end up pretty close to average. I’m at a little over 2” on the month and average is about 2.75”.

 

 

We have only had 6 times as much rain as you this month here.  

[ShawniganLake]

We have only had 6 times as much rain as you this month here.

It’s a bit of an interesting part of our climate here locally as we do tend to dry out more notably in the spring than other parts of the area. On average we are slightly wetter than the parts of the lower Fraser valley, such as Abbotsford. But by the time we get to April, May and June we only get about 1/2 as much rain as that area.

[El_Nina]

We have only had 6 times as much rain as you this month here.  

You've had over a foot of rain this month?

[TT-SEA]

You've had over a foot of rain this month?

 

 

Just about.

[TT-SEA]

I often lay awake at night worrying about not getting enough rain here.   

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just about.

 

I find it very hard to believe you've had more rain than me. Or even half as much.

[Jesse]

I often lay awake at night worrying about not getting enough rain here.

I don’t think anyone has said your area is behind on rainfall for well over a year. Can’t understand your compulsion to view all regional rainfall talk as just pertaining to your backyard. It isn’t. You are just really self centered.

[TT-SEA]

I find it very hard to believe you've had more rain than me. Or even half as much.

 

Seriously?   

 

We have been through this.   It rained almost continuously here for a week straight starting two weeks ago.

 

The Cedar Falls station near me has not updated for a few days but its at 11.45 inches for April.   Not quite up to last April though which was the wettest ever. 

 

 

[Omegaraptor]

Seriously?   

 

We have been through this.   It rained almost continuously here for a week straight starting two weeks ago.

 

The Cedar Falls station near me has not updated for a few days but its at 11.45 inches for April.

 

Those are some impressive rainfall figures. Absolutely epic in the winter.

[TT-SEA]

Those are some impressive rainfall figures. Absolutely epic in the winter.

 

 

This year has started off way drier than last year.   Its been wetter than normal here since 2013... but this year has a chance to actually end up drier than normal.

 

This March was the second driest ever... only 1992 was drier and that April was also very wet.

[El_Nina]

Just about.

Must suck since you like dry weather.

[Kayla]

Seriously?   

 

We have been through this.   It rained almost continuously here for a week straight starting two weeks ago.

 

The Cedar Falls station near me has not updated for a few days but its at 11.45 inches for April.   Not quite up to last April though which was the wettest ever. 

 

I don't recall you getting almost any rainfall last July/August. That station shows over an inch on each of those months.

 

How close is that station to you??

[Kayla]

Looks like the models are converging on a more suppressed northern jet over the weekend rather than a deep western trough. Could still be decently chilly though.

[TT-SEA]

Must suck since you like dry weather.

 

 

I just appreciate the dry days more.   About half the days are dry here annually.    I enjoy the dry half of the climo equation... and almost never worry about not getting enough rain.      

 

October - December of last year was a little above normal in terms of total rain... but the number of days with rain was exactly normal.     Not one complaint from me in that period.   I enjoyed it... good balance.

[TT-SEA]

I don't recall you getting almost any rainfall last July/August. That station shows over an inch on each of those months.

 

How close is that station to you??

 

2 miles.

 

We had rain on 8 days total last July and August combined... but it was also really hot and it was not enough.    That was twice as many days with rain in that period as 2012 though.  

[Farmboy]

Looks like the models are converging on a more suppressed northern jet over the weekend rather than a deep western trough. Could still be decently chilly though.

I like the sound of the first sentence here.

[Kayla]

2 miles.

 

We had rain on 8 days total last July and August combined... but it was also really hot and it was not enough.    That was twice as many days with rain in that period as 2012 though.  

 

2 miles makes a worlds of difference in hilly terrain. 2 miles is even a huge difference here in much more rolling type terrain.

 

Time for you to get your own weather station!

[TT-SEA]

2 miles makes a worlds of difference in hilly terrain. 2 miles is even a huge difference here in much more rolling type terrain.

 

Time for you to get your own weather station!

 

 

Its not that different.   When it rains there... its usually raining here.    It just rains a little more there it total.    

 

It also rained on 8 days at the Snoqualmie Falls station last July and August... and that is down in the valley where they get significantly less rain than here.

 

I can easily walk to the Cedar Lake station... we have biked to that lake several times.    You can also see that area from here.

[Omegaraptor]

12z GFS looks very different from previous models. Let’s wait for the ECMWF and EPS.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I don't believe you Tim. You have unlimited resources yet refuse to set up a rain gauge at your home. 

[Jesse]

Glad to see Tim finally getting an opportunity to really get down to the nitty gritty about the details of rainfall near his location.

[Omegaraptor]

Must suck since you like dry weather.

Tim wanted rain all March.

[Kayla]

Its not that different.   When it rains there... its usually raining here.    It just rains a little more there it total.    

 

It also rained on 8 days at the Snoqualmie Falls station last July and August... and that is down in the valley where they get significantly less rain than here.

 

I can easily walk to the Cedar Lake station... we have biked to that lake several times.    You can also see that area from here.

 

I can see Belgrade from my house...that doesn't make it any more or less rainy/snowy. Heck, most days it's raining/snowing here it's also doing it there but it's the orographic's that make my location see double the amount of yearly precipitation compared to them, not the number of days of precip or whether or not I can see it.

 

Just get a weather station!!

[TT-SEA]

I don't believe you Tim. You have unlimited resources yet refuse to set up a rain gauge at your home. 

 

 

You don't believe what?   

 

I must not have complained enough about the rain this month.   It had a April 2018 vibe.   But I totally expected it after the dry March... not a big deal.   

 

And unlimited resources?    WTF?   My wife is already constantly telling me to stop wasting money on WB.

[TT-SEA]

I can see Belgrade from my house...that doesn't make it any more or less rainy/snowy. Heck, most days it's raining/snowing here it's also doing it there but it's the orographic's that make my location see double the amount of yearly precipitation compared to them, not the number of days of precip or whether or not I can see it.

 

Just get a weather station!!

 

 

The Snoqualmie Falls station just to my west in the valley is almost at 7 inches for April compared to a normal of 4.47 inches.

 

The Cedar Falls station just to my east is 11.45 inches compared to a normal of 8.20 inches (and has not updated for the last 5 days).

 

 

I am sure its been really dry here though.    Despite raining almost non-stop for a week straight on most days this month.  

 

Side note - I am not complaining at all.   I expected a very wet April and it has delivered.    But now I am being told that I am lying... which is just stupid.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

You don't believe what?   

 

I must not have complained enough about the rain this month.   It had a April 2018 vibe.   But I totally expected it after the dry March... not a big deal.   

 

And unlimited resources?    WTF?   My wife is already constantly telling me to stop wasting money on WB.

 

The fact is it just hasn't been that wet north of Salem. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I was in Tacoma on Saturday. It was sunny and there was no sign of rain or that it had rained.

[Kayla]

The Snoqualmie Falls station just to my west in the valley is almost at 7 inches for April compared to a normal of 4.47 inches.

 

The Cedar Falls station just to my east is 11.45 inches compared to a normal of 8.20 inches (and has not updated for the last 5 days).

 

 

I am sure its been really dry here though.    Despite raining almost non-stop for a week straight on most days this month.  

 

Side note - I am not complaining at all.   I expected a very wet April and it has delivered.    But now I am being told that I am lying... which is just stupid.

 

No one is saying that you are lying nor is anyone saying that it's been really dry there? I'm not sure where that is coming from??

 

I'm just making the point that your house is not Cedar Falls station and has likely has seen different (lower) precip amounts.

 

Hey I have an idea... Get a weather station to find out!!

[TT-SEA]

The fact is it just hasn't been that wet north of Salem.

Yep... dry month here.

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

12z continues the dry theme.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

No one is saying that you are lying nor is anyone saying that it's been really dry there? I'm not sure where that is coming from??

 

I'm just making the point that your house is not Cedar Falls station and has likely has seen different (lower) precip amounts.

 

Hey I have an idea... Get a weather station to find out!!

 

I didn't say he was lying. But I do think 12" of rain there is a HUGE stretch. We need a weather station. Preferably a manual gauge. A good one is $35.

[TT-SEA]

I didn't say he was lying. But I do think 12" of rain there is a HUGE stretch. We need a weather station. Preferably a manual gauge. A good one is $35.

 

So the Cedar Lake station is not over 12 inches?   

 

Because it has not even updated for last Friday when it rained hard most of the day here and its already 11.45 inches without that included.    It might be over 13 inches now. 

 

The perpetual warm front pattern we had earlier in the month heavily favors the hills around here.   There was numerous days when it was not that wet in the valley but very wet up here.   So I think my backyard is very close to the Cedar Lake station this month.    

 

And even the Snoqulmie Falls station is way above normal for the month.  

[TacomaWaWx]

I didn't say he was lying. But I do think 12" of rain there is a HUGE stretch. We need a weather station. Preferably a manual gauge. A good one is $35.

It honestly doesn’t surprise me that 12” of rain could fallen up there. Been lots of good convergence zones that have set up in the central cascades this month. The cedar lake station did also say it was close to 12” not long ago like tim said. Been much drier down here near the sound. However I do agree that getting a weather station is almost a necessity for anyone on this forum to be honest we all pay too much attention to the weather to not have one.

[Omegaraptor]

Tim lives in a wet foothill microclimate influenced by the Convergence Zone which did have an impact there as Cliff Mass said in an earlier article.

 

12” is probably a stretch, but I could easily believe 10”.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Ensembles are improving. Even if the operational was a total turd.