Anti Marine Layer Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Downtown L.A. might finally get above average by Thursday. High was 68 yesterday for Los Angeles Airport. Starting to be like 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Man I hate La Nina Summers, dealing with the constant gloom every morning is so annoying. I wish we could get a strong El Nino to form and have a repeat of Summer 2015 again, that was the best Summer ever with the unusually warm sst creating very warm overnight temps and consistent tropical/monsoonal moisture lasted all the way until October that year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Man I hate La Nina Summers, dealing with the constant gloom every morning is so annoying. I wish we could get a strong El Nino to form and have a repeat of Summer 2015 again, that was the best Summer ever with the unusually warm sst creating very warm overnight temps and consistent tropical/monsoonal moisture lasted all the way until October that year. I get what you are saying about gloom in the summer... but 2015 was a pretty extreme summer in the West. This is not exactly a Nina summer either. Its closer to neutral and the water off the CA coast is not that cold. Compare that to a summer like 2011: Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Lots and lots of clouds out there. Boating anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Lots and lots of clouds out there. Boating anyone?20202101810_GOES17-ABI-wus-01-2000x2000.jpgMy sons are taking the boat out today... of course we have clear blue skies here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 The geocolor satellite image has stopped updating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hot sun, cool breeze. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 LAX once again fails to reach 70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 I headed out to a remote section of the Santa Margarita River near Camp Pendleton today. It was hot and dry out there, but there was still flowing water in the river (which was too large in file size for this forum so I had to downsize it): 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Things could get quite interesting later this week with maybe a 30 degree difference between the beaches and 10-15 miles inland. Tough luck seeing any beach reach 70 for the next few weeks without some warming sea surface temperatures or offshore flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Heat advisory for all areas except near the beaches now. Will some beaches stay below 70 while places 10 miles inland get close to 100? Only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Northwest winds cause upwelling, below normal sea surface temperatures, and endless gloom at the beaches. Catalina is probably still closed down due to covid and the ocean temperatures may be approaching those of winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Northwest winds cause upwelling, below normal sea surface temperatures, and endless gloom at the beaches. Catalina is probably still closed down due to covid and the ocean temperatures may be approaching those of winter. Live view from Catalina... looks horrible. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Live view from Catalina... looks horrible. They have cleared out while the Los Angeles beaches have not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 55 degree sea surface temperatures at Scripps Pier. That's like San Francisco. Most beaches are low to mid 60s, however. Last year they were in the low 70s this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Good heavens! No wonder it’s so gloomy here. What changed? This is looking more and more like 2010 and it’s really getting to me. It hasn’t cracked 70 for almost a week here in Manhattan Beach and I’m starting to get seasonal affective-like symptoms. Lurked here for a while but decided to sign up today. I’m an armchair weather geek and I came here wondering what the hell turned our marine layer all the way up to ludicrous speed. What’s causing the NW winds to be so persistent this year? Feels more like May than almost August. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Good heavens! No wonder it’s so gloomy here. What changed? This is looking more and more like 2010 and it’s really getting to me. It hasn’t cracked 70 for almost a week here in Manhattan Beach and I’m starting to get seasonal affective-like symptoms. Lurked here for a while but decided to sign up today. I’m an armchair weather geek and I came here wondering what the hell turned our marine layer all the way up to ludicrous speed. What’s causing the NW winds to be so persistent this year? Feels more like May than almost August.Welcome! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Good heavens! No wonder it’s so gloomy here. What changed? This is looking more and more like 2010 and it’s really getting to me. It hasn’t cracked 70 for almost a week here in Manhattan Beach and I’m starting to get seasonal affective-like symptoms. Lurked here for a while but decided to sign up today. I’m an armchair weather geek and I came here wondering what the hell turned our marine layer all the way up to ludicrous speed. What’s causing the NW winds to be so persistent this year? Feels more like May than almost August.Welcome to the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 At the Serrano Creek Park near our house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Wore a jacket for my brisk after dinner walk, a rarity for late July even in my immediate coastal location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Highs today: 68 in Newport Beach, 86 in Fullerton, 100 in San Bernardino, 112 in Palm Springs. 112 is actually not that unusual for Palm Springs this time of year. Far from record breaking heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Highs today: 68 in Newport Beach, 86 in Fullerton, 100 in San Bernardino, 112 in Palm Springs. 112 is actually not that unusual for Palm Springs this time of year. Far from record breaking heat.As a heat lover, numbers like this make me jealous of inlanders. Unfortunately I’m in about the worst possible place you can be if you prefer heat: Manhattan Beach. 61 and foggy here...eugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 59 (!!) in Malibu. Is it July or late April? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Both LAX and Downtown LA have already fallen below their forecasted lows for tonight. They were warmer at the end of May. Low clouds are mysteriously absent here so far, but that did not stop temperatures from dropping quickly this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Heavy fog. Can’t even see across the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Downtown LA is expected to reach 86 today. If they manage to do so, it will end a 16-day streak of highs below normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Marine layer has actually deepened over Monterey and San Francisco this morning. Where is that strong ridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Bay Area forecast discussion this morning Will it actually rain for the beginning of August, or are they just referring to the usual marine layer drizzle? At the synoptic scale, as previously alluded to, the San FranciscoBay Area and Central Coast regions are currently positioned inthe southwesterly buffer region between a 555dm 500mb low pressuresystem off the PacNW to the NW and a 597dm 500mb high pressure ridgecentered over Arizona to the SE. These two systems and theirdescendants will take turns nudging into the vicinity of theforecast area over the next week in an attempt to challenge the"stratus quo", resulting first in a minor to locally moderatewarming/drying trends for the interior (now through the weekend),then a shift towards a cooler, wetter, breezier regime mid to latenext week as the low pressure digs into the vicinity. Breezynortherly winds will develop along shore and throughout some of theinterior late this weekend into this weekend as the northerlygradient strengthens in response to further subtle shifts in thehigh-low synoptic scale dichotomy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 9:15 AM and still totally socked in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Clearing out. Inversion must be mega strong; I could see steam from the nearby refinery doing a “loop-de-loop” as it rose and then sank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Clearing out. Inversion must be mega strong; I could see steam from the nearby refinery doing a “loop-de-loop” as it rose and then sank.I noticed something similar here on Monday when it was in the mid 90s. Someone was having a BBQ on the other side of the lake and instead of the smoke rising vertically like normal it was spreading out horizontally across the lake. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Looks like we’ll be stuck behind the “Sepulveda wall” for the fifth consecutive day at this rate. Sea breeze kicking in and the steam is swiftly following it now. When it comes to warming trends in Manhattan Beach particularly, I’m skeptical. Forecast high is 73. I’ll believe it when I see it. Our microclimate seems unusually exposed even for the coast. Sometimes we’re even cooler than the Santa Monica Pier. I’ve seen it countless times where it clears out literally everywhere else except a mile-wide stretch of the coastal strip from LAX to PV, roughly paralleling Sepulveda Boulevard, so I call it the Sepulveda Wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 The marine layer is deeper than expected once again and the it's cloudy past 11AM.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 The marine layer is deeper than expected once again and the it's cloudy past 11AM....Starting to roll back in here after an hour of sunshine. I miss 2015... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 The "fog shadow" holes in the clouds by each of the Channel Islands once again indicate persistent northwest winds. Normally the Four Corners High would prevent this from happening, but it's 2020 of course. Nothing is normal anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Gross. We still have hope for the high to do its thing in August and bring an end to the Bummer Summer Deluxe. It’s certainly weird. It feels like 2010 at the coast but unlike 2010, temperatures aren’t below normal away from it. Instead it feels like late spring during a weak heatwave, with insanely pronounced microclimates. MB is looking like a mere 64 for a high. Meanwhile it’s set to break 90 in Anaheim. Starting to remind me more of the Bay Area than normal mid-summer conditions for LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 64 in Manhattan Beach. 102 in Winnetka. Might be the most extreme spread I’ve ever seen this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Fog suddenly blew out of MB area. A few low clouds but mainly sunny and real breezy - W @ 16. Temp up to 68, unusual for it to climb any higher once the sea breeze kicks in with this microclimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 000ASUS46 KSGX 302311RWRSGXSAN DIEGO HOURLY WEATHER ROUNDUPNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA400 PM PDT THU JUL 30 2020NOTE: "FAIR" INDICATES FEW OR NO CLOUDS BELOW 12,000 FEET WITH NOSIGNIFICANT WEATHER AND/OR OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISIBILITY.CAZ042-043-060-061-PZZ750-775-310000-GREATER SAN DIEGO AREACITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSSAN DIEGO AP MOSUNNY 72 62 71 NW14G22 29.91FCHULA VISTA N/A 77 66 70 W5 29.80FBROWN FIELD SUNNY 78 62 57 W8 29.90FMONTGOMERY FLD SUNNY 79 62 56 NW12 29.91FGILLESPIE FLD SUNNY 88 59 37 W15 29.89FLEMON GROVE N/A 83 63 51 NW2 29.86F$$NORTH SAN DIEGO COUNTYCITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSCAMP PENDLETON SUNNY 79 59 50 SW8 29.89FOCEANSIDE AP SUNNY 73 65 75 W15 29.90FOCEANSIDE HBR N/A 68 64 87 W12 29.98FVISTA N/A 77 65 68 W2 29.88FCARLSBAD SUNNY 71 61 70 W12 29.91FENCINITAS N/A 73 66 77 NW7 N/ALA JOLLA SCRIP N/A 66 62 85 CALM 29.91FFALLBROOK FAIR 84 63 48 SW6 29.92FESCONDIDO N/A 86 65 49 CALM 29.87FSAN MARCOS N/A 80 66 61 W5 29.93FRANCHO BERNARD N/A 81 64 55 SW6 29.88FPOWAY N/A 90 65 44 W2 29.89F$$EAST SAN DIEGO COUNTYCITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSRAMONA SUNNY 94 59 31 NW9G18 29.93FLA MESA N/A 84 63 49 W6 29.84FJAMUL N/A 91 64 41 NE3 29.87FDESCANSO N N/A 98 49 18 SW9 29.86F HX 95CAMPO N/A 101 48 16 W17 29.94F HX 97$$ORANGE COUNTY AND THE LOS ANGELES BASINCITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSJOHN WAYNE AP MOSUNNY 79 59 50 SW9 29.91FLAKE FOREST FR N/A 88 59 36 W3 29.78FHUNTINGTON BCH N/A 71 64 77 W12 29.91FLOS ALAMITOS SUNNY 79 59 50 W9 29.91FFULLERTON SUNNY 89 58 34 MISG 29.89FLONG BEACH SUNNY 79 58 48 W13 29.91FL.A. AP MOSUNNY 69 57 65 W20 29.93FL.A. DOWNTOWN SUNNY 76 58 53 VRB3 29.91F$$THE INLAND EMPIRECITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSCORONA SUNNY 94 59 31 NW14 29.88FUPLAND AP FAIR 97 43 15 W12G17 29.94FCHINO SUNNY 103 50 17 W14 29.89F HX 100ONTARIO MOSUNNY 101 48 16 W13 29.90F HX 97RIVERSIDE AP SUNNY 101 49 17 W14 29.89F HX 98MORENO VALLEY N/A 106 44 12 W6 29.87F HX 101MARCH ARB SUNNY 103 51 17 NW14 29.93F HX 100HORSETHIEF CYN N/A 101 45 14 NE9 29.86F HX 96LAKE ELSINORE N/A 103 47 14 NW7 29.77F HX 99HEMET AP FAIR 107 38 9 NW13G18 29.92S HX 100FRENCH VALLEY FAIR 100 55 22 S9 29.91F HX 99TEMECULA N/A 102 57 22 S6 29.85F HX 101$$SAN BERNARDINO AND RIVERSIDE COUNTY MOUNTAINSCITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSBIG BEAR AP MOSUNNY 82 41 23 SW9G18 30.37SBIG BEAR LAKE N/A 83 46 26 S5 29.91FLK ARROWHEAD N N/A 91 39 16 CALM 29.85FWRIGHTWOOD N/A 85 45 24 CALM 29.81FANGELUS OAKS N/A 88 49 25 CALM 29.77FIDYLLWILD N/A 93 42 17 SE6 29.80SGARNER VALLEY N/A 99 54 21 W5 29.81F HX 97TORO PEAK N/A 75 39 26 S5 N/A$$SOUTHERN DESERT INCLUDING THE COACHELLA VALLEYCITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSPALM SPRINGS SUNNY 117 49 10 W9 29.77F HX 113THOUSAND PALMS N/A 115 54 13 SE5 29.70F HX 113PALM DESERT N/A 119 54 12 CALM N/A HX 116INDIO N/A 115 53 13 CALM 29.72F HX 112THERMAL SUNNY 116 48 10 VRB6 29.70F HX 111BORREGO AP FAIR 113 41 9 SE10 29.76F HX 107OCOTILLO WELLS N/A 116 47 10 CALM 29.67F HX 111CANEBRAKE N/A 111 43 10 SW3 29.67F HX 106IMPERIAL AP SUNNY 114 49 11 VRB3 29.71F HX 110YUMA AZ SUNNY 112 56 16 CALM 29.73F HX 111$$UPPER DESERTCITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSVICTORVILLE AP SUNNY N/A N/A N/A W12 30.01FHESPERIA N/A 101 43 14 W12 29.83F HX 96APPLE VALLEY N/A 99 52 20 NW10 29.86F HX 96PALMDALE SUNNY 102 29 7 W20G28 30.00F HX 95LANCASTER SUNNY 104 32 8 W20G26 29.97F HX 97EDWARDS AFB MOSUNNY 104 28 7 SW17G23 29.95F HX 97GRAY BUTTE AP FAIR 105 40 11 W15 29.98S HX 99DAGGETT SUNNY 109 36 8 VRB3 29.90F HX 10229 PALMS N CLOUDY 111 37 8 N9 29.96F HX 10429 PALMS JTNP N/A 110 37 8 NE3 29.68F HX 104NEEDLES PTSUNNY 119 28 4 NE10 29.76F HX 108$$REGIONAL REPORTSCITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSSANTA BARBARA SUNNY 73 57 57 SW13 29.92FLAS VEGAS NV MOSUNNY 109 37 8 SW8 29.91F HX 102PHOENIX AZ MOSUNNY 116 47 10 W10G18 29.72F HX 111TIJUANA SUNNY 77 63 61 W17 29.93FENSENADA NW N/A 77 32 19 E1 29.84F$$OFFSHORE ISLANDSCITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSCATALINA ARPT SUNNY 85 50 29 W6 29.99FSAN CLEMENTE I PTSUNNY 67 57 70 W14 29.97FSAN NICOLAS IS MOSUNNY 68 57 68 W22 29.95F$$MARINE AND OFFSHORE BUOY REPORTSSTATION/POSITION SKY/WX TEMP WIND PRES VSBY SWELL AIR SEA DIR/SP/G HT/PER/DIR (F) (DEG/KT/KT) (MB) (MI) (FT/S/D)TANNER BANKS 62 310/ 16/ 19 1014.6F 2/230/11S CLEMENTE BASIN 65 1013.0F 2/200/13SAN NICOLAS IS. 64 N/A 2/300/11SO. S. ROSA ISLA 60 63 1015.4F 2/260/11W. S. BARBARA CH 58 280/ 19/ 23 1014.7F 2/300/11M. S. BARBARA CH 60 60 260/ 14/ 16 1014.7FS. MONICA BASIN 64 68 270/ 10/ 14 1013.7F 2/260/ 6S PEDRO CHANNEL 64 N/AOCEANSIDE OFFSHR 69 N/A 2/190/13TORREY PINES OTR 67 N/A 2/180/13SAN DIEGO BAY 70 1012.3FPOINT LOMA SOUTH 70 N/A 2/200/13$$ 66 in La Jolla, 90 in Poway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pn1ct0g3n Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 MB now clear of low clouds. Glorious skies, around 66F with winds decreasing. Definitely a bit more July-like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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