[Missing] March 2022 PNW Wx Discussion

[Phil]

It was essentially nighttime when I walked to the bus stop in high school in spite of it being DST. Pointless concern IMO.

I’d argue school days are too long as is. No reason to keep students there more than 4-5hrs per day, staggering classes/subjects bi-weekly or each semester.

[Phishy Wx]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Backdoor BLAST.

yay highs in the 40s

[Thunder98]

How about just moving clocks up 30 minutes instead of permanent Daylight or standard time? Good compromise 

[Meatyorologist]

42 minutes ago, Thunder98 said:

How about just moving clocks up 30 minutes instead of permanent Daylight or standard time? Good compromise 

That cuts the actual benefits of DST in half, and makes the change seem exceedingly arbitrary. Almost like we're just changing the clocks because it's "what we've always done" or "it's the thing we do."

Also adding just half an hour is logistically annoying.

[Phishy Wx]

DST sux, keep standard instead

[JW8]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

It was essentially nighttime when I walked to the bus stop in high school in spite of it being DST. Pointless concern IMO.

I’d argue school days are too long as is. No reason to keep students there more than 4-5hrs per day, staggering classes/subjects bi-weekly or each semester.

There's unfortunately a very big reason (for elementary age)- childcare is FAR too expensive in this country. 

[Meatyorologist]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

It was essentially nighttime when I walked to the bus stop in high school in spite of it being DST. Pointless concern IMO.

I’d argue school days are too long as is. No reason to keep students there more than 4-5hrs per day, staggering classes/subjects bi-weekly or each semester.

They had us doing six courses at a time at my HS. Six.

There is no way a tired, perpetually annoyed 14-18y/o is going to learn all of that material effectively. Better to reduce the course count and provide a higher quality of education in each class. After all, a good 1-3 of those courses ended up being filler anyways.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Lots of HAWT daylight savings talk!

[Deweydog]

The only REAL solution to the child daylight issue during the winter months would be to simply fall back two hours each day at 4am and then spring forward after sunset.

Saving the life of even ONE child will make it entirely worth it.  

[FroYoBro]

We must destroy the sun. 
 

Vote for me in 2028. 

[Meatyorologist]

16 minutes ago, FroYoBro said:

We must destroy the sun. 
 

Vote for me in 2028. 

Summer would be chilly

[Phishy Wx]

8 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Summer would be chilly

so would winter

[Deweydog]

Ensembles look good

[TT-SEA]

26 minutes ago, 1000'NorthBend said:

Yesterday was a 38°F/45°F day, monthly rain up to 9.14". Should be a beautiful afternoon and evening. 

Cedar Lake station at 1,560 feet averages 8.10 inches of rain in March.     We might be due for some drier than normal months up here.  

[Phil]

2 hours ago, Phishy Wx said:

DST sux, keep standard instead

Hard pass. Who wants a 4AM sunrise? Insane.

1 hour ago, Meatyorologist said:

They had us doing six courses at a time at my HS. Six.

There is no way a tired, perpetually annoyed 14-18y/o is going to learn all of that material effectively. Better to reduce the course count and provide a higher quality of education in each class. After all, a good 1-3 of those courses ended up being filler anyways.

I wasn’t learning jack s**t in high school. I  admit I rarely showed to class up except for test days, and still got As and a few Bs. I was that dude smoking a joint outside the back of the school building every afternoon.  They basically regurgitated the same curriculum each year, very little new material. Useless.

Got fed up with it and dropped out in senior year, immediately got a GED and started work with a landscape company while taking night classes at MC and UMUC. Transferred to UMD 3 years ago to finish my meteorology degree (minor in physics). The math is challenging but that’s what makes it enjoyable for me.

In the end the decision to drop out held me back several years, but I picked up plenty of life skills along the way, which have proven very useful since. Definitely more-so than anything I learned in high school. Especially the humanities bulls**t.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Cedar Lake station at 1,560 feet averages 8.10 inches of rain in March.     We might be due for some drier than normal months up here.  

Not in this new normal. Down here we've been due to not have a bad fire season...neither have happened. At least we finally got some rain this month. A whole 2.68" which is above normal for March so far. You'd probly like the weather here from March-early July if you ever get a wild hair for a spring home.

July-Sept are generally a slog of numerous 90F+ days and not fun to run the AC constantly in our house with basically zero insulation.

[Phishy Wx]

23 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Ensembles look good

sweet analogs

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Spring is by far the nicest time of year here IMO. Though I don't consider March a spring month. It usually snows, and we average 9" of precip during the month. 6.15" so far this month. Not terrible. 

[The Ms. Anthrop]

4 hours ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

In regards to risk of students being hit, this also happens after school hours. I had to stay extra often to get some last minute work done, it got dark quick on standard in the early evening. 

There will always be mixed opinions on the subject, but overall I'm going for year round DST. For the students that need some extra credit after school hours, it'll stay light longer. 

I agree, and I work in education. Was a school nurse, am a social worker now. I've had two kids get hit this year, and both were in full daylight. The problem? Folks on their mobiles or otherwise not paying attention to the road. And honestly, with the way things are now, kids on the secondary side are coming home in the dark @4:30, so we are just switching one period of darkness for another. As it is, I go to work in the dark and come home in the dark. With permeant DST, I would at least get to see a sliver of daylight at the end of my day which would be amazing. LOL went to the dr a month ago and shocker, I'm vitamin D deficient due to the lack of light. I wasn't back in August. 

[The Ms. Anthrop]

2 hours ago, Meatyorologist said:

Summer would be chilly

I mean, if you really think about it, taking out the sun would help with the whole problem of rampant, out of control wildfires, right? And then all the folks who've fled CA and jacked up our housing prices can go back as it would no longer be a dystopian firescape. Plus we would would get more snow.....

Yeah, okay. Forget my earlier sun worshiping comments. @FroYoBro has my vote. Destroy the sun!

[MossMan]

2 hours ago, FroYoBro said:

We must destroy the sun. 
 

Vote for me in 2028. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

This may be my least favorite conversation of all time on here...

[Meatyorologist]

Currently taking in the sun on the back porch. It’s not even the equinox yet but the radiance is there. In between gusts and clouds it’s very nice. 53°F

 

[Deweydog]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This may be my least favorite conversation of all time on here...

At least it’s something we can do something about, unlike sun angles which still seem to be controversial every year.

[Front Ranger]

4 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Lots of HAWT daylight savings talk!

Whatever keeps the forum going this time of year...

[Front Ranger]

37 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This may be my least favorite conversation of all time on here...

I'd like to hear Jesse's thoughts.

[TacomaWaWx]

Today was pretty nice. 53/42…had some light showers earlier but didn’t amount to anything. 

[BLI snowman]

24 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Whatever keeps the forum going this time of year...

Pretty much the case for the next 6 months. At least this one is kind of sciency and stuff almost. 

[Meatyorologist]

18z almost gets there actually… Fairly decent marginal snow event for Vancouver BC.

[Anti Marine Layer]

Wow!

[The Swamp]

Wow!

[The Blob]

[Phil]

Dynamic final warming on the 00z GFS.

We’re not done with winter cold yet.

[Cloud]

Nice day!

[TacomaWaWx]

Leaving for orcas island Friday morning…was looking at the webcams today and it didn’t look like there was any snow at the top…maybe a chance on Sunday morning hopefully it works out. 

[seattleweatherguy]

6 minutes ago, Phil said:

Dynamic final warming on the 00z GFS.

We’re not done with winter cold yet.

Your telling me it could snow later this month into April? Maybe I should keep those snow tires on longer!

[TacomaWaWx]

Looking at the euro…through day 10 we would be at 2.80” for the month by 3/26. Figured this month would be wetter…but we did have over 4” of rain in the final 24 hours of February. Looking back on the last 60 days…if you take out the big rainstorm at the end of February it’s been pretty dry. 7.33” of rain in the last 60 days but 4” of that fell in 24 hours. 

[Front Ranger]

19 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Looking at the euro…through day 10 we would be at 2.80” for the month by 3/26. Figured this month would be wetter…but we did have over 4” of rain in the final 24 hours of February. Looking back on the last 60 days…if you take out the big rainstorm at the end of February it’s been pretty dry. 7.33” of rain in the last 60 days but 4” of that fell in 24 hours. 

Tim forbids it.

[TT-SEA]

27 minutes ago, seattleweatherguy said:

Your telling me it could snow later this month into April? Maybe I should keep those snow tires on longer!

You would never need snow tires in April in Bothell.   You rarely need them in the middle of the winter.  

[TacomaWaWx]

6 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Tim forbids it.

Lol, was a pretty impressive rainstorm here. Was actually the wettest day at my location since 2009. Most of January and February were pretty boring but the last week of February was pretty active.