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11 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

It’s in there. 

This week featured perhaps the lowliest and sleaziest treason accusations yet. On Sunday night, Gabbard posted a two-minute video online in which she said something completely indisputable: “indisputable” in the sense that the U.S. Government itself admits it and nobody contests it. She did not say that there are bio weapons labs in Ukraine: either ones funded by the U.S. or anyone else. What she did say — in her characteristically clear and blunt manner — is that there are labs in Ukraine in which dangerous pathogens are being cultivated and stored, and that it is reckless in the extreme for the U.S. and/or Ukraine not to have secured or disposed of them when Russian troops were massed on the Ukrainian border, indicating the high possibility of an invasion that could result in these pathogens being accidentally released during war.

 

BUT, the point of "all those words," is if we look at what the definition of treason is, it really doesn't matter what she said. And the treason smear is pretty meaningless, unless you are a Democrat, corporate media shill, then it means anyone who disagrees with you more than 1% of the time. 

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6 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This week featured perhaps the lowliest and sleaziest treason accusations yet. On Sunday night, Gabbard posted a two-minute video online in which she said something completely indisputable: “indisputable” in the sense that the U.S. Government itself admits it and nobody contests it. She did not say that there are bio weapons labs in Ukraine: either ones funded by the U.S. or anyone else. What she did say — in her characteristically clear and blunt manner — is that there are labs in Ukraine in which dangerous pathogens are being cultivated and stored, and that it is reckless in the extreme for the U.S. and/or Ukraine not to have secured or disposed of them when Russian troops were massed on the Ukrainian border, indicating the high possibility of an invasion that could result in these pathogens being accidentally released during war.

 

BUT, the point of "all those words," is if we look at what the definition of treason is, it really doesn't matter what she said. And the treason smear is pretty meaningless, unless you are a Democrat, corporate media shill, then it means anyone who disagrees with you more than 1% of the time. 

A book's worth of material about something she said and the writer literally never quotes her - just (mis)characterizes her words without even saying what her words are.  Bravo.

Also, the constitution legally defines the word treason for the US but the constitution is also not a dictionary and doesn't get to define words in the English language. 

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I just want to go on the record that Putin took crazy up a few notches when he began to speak in terms of his Stalinist philosophy.   
This business of purifying the race is dangerous and plain crazy.  But it explains why Russian troops are hitting hospitals, bunkers with children and civilians.  
 

He seems to believe it’s his duty & responsibility to cleanse the Russians of scum & bad blood and take back their “sovereign territory”.  
Let’s just say it… he’s F****** crazy! He may think he’s reinventing Mother Russia 2.0 but in a global economy now, that won’t work.   Modern Russians have this thing called the internet and the telephone and he can’t isolate them like Stalin did. 
 

This 1950 style exercise in political terror and propaganda will fail, but a lot of people will die and Ukraine will look like a moonscape before it’s over.
And who’s next?  Moldova? Latvia? Lithuania?   Part of Poland was Russia.  Where does it stop? 

I can now fully understand why Russian leaders in the past were considered mad and eliminated.  
 

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Short history lesson.  
 

Kyiv was founded in 882 on the Dnieper River. Moscow wasn’t founded for like another 250 yrs.  
Who’s sovereign over who?

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23 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This week featured perhaps the lowliest and sleaziest treason accusations yet. On Sunday night, Gabbard posted a two-minute video online in which she said something completely indisputable: “indisputable” in the sense that the U.S. Government itself admits it and nobody contests it. She did not say that there are bio weapons labs in Ukraine: either ones funded by the U.S. or anyone else. What she did say — in her characteristically clear and blunt manner — is that there are labs in Ukraine in which dangerous pathogens are being cultivated and stored, and that it is reckless in the extreme for the U.S. and/or Ukraine not to have secured or disposed of them when Russian troops were massed on the Ukrainian border, indicating the high possibility of an invasion that could result in these pathogens being accidentally released during war.

Or maybe — just work with me here — Russia should have planned for this, since it was they who planned to invade in the first place. Nah, fergeddit, let’s come up with ways to blame Ukraine and NATO for the invasion!

It's called clown range for a reason.

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17 hours ago, chrisahasasmallpp said:

A book's worth of material about something she said and the writer literally never quotes her - just (mis)characterizes her words without even saying what her words are.  Bravo.

Also, the constitution legally defines the word treason for the US but the constitution is also not a dictionary and doesn't get to define words in the English language. 

So basically treason to you is anything you disagree with or that is at odds with the Democrat Party and mainstream media? Okay got it!

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Picked up this for $3 at Goodwill yesterday. It is a bit absurd, or is it? You could argue convincingly in my opinion, that the invasion of Iraq was about as bad as the invasion of The Ukraine. In fact, at least Ukraine is of vital strategic interest to Russia. But I would encourage people to go back and read the Bush administration officials quotes before the war. Completely absurd. 

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Putin is going full on Stalin playbook.  
Attacking Russians now is exactly what his mentor Stalin did.  Starved Russians that disagreed with him.  Sent them to Siberian work camps.   
Starving enemies is So STALIN. Everything old is new again.  
Don’t look now Vladimir but your cray-cray is showing! 👹

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7 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Picked up this for $3 at Goodwill yesterday. It is a bit absurd, or is it? You could argue convincingly in my opinion, that the invasion of Iraq was about as bad as the invasion of The Ukraine. In fact, at least Ukraine is of vital strategic interest to Russia. But I would encourage people to go back and read the Bush administration officials quotes before the war. Completely absurd. 

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I wonder what your past self would say if he saw you reading that book.

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Putin’s on a 50’s style Purge-a thon.  
That means other Soviet owned nations and undesirables in those nations and in the homeland are targets. Stalins purge was horrifying.  

Today Putin has more people in prison than they had in 1976.  That’s the Real man. He won’t stop with Ukraine unless someone permanently stops him.  

What I’m curious about is how strong China will back him as they’re walking a very fine economic line.  
Lastly, India is another big economic partner and they’re backing Russia in this despite their war over Kashmir.  
 

All these guys are Frenemies….And we aren’t in that club.   

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15 hours ago, chrisahasasmallpp said:

I wonder what your past self would say if he saw you reading that book.

Yeah, 20 years ago I would be very upset... Not really, though I now recognize the folly of the Iraq War, I have always been interested in reading things I disagree with or from a different political perspective. I like reading centrist, conservative, and left wing perspectives. Might not agree, but it doesn't mean it's not worth reading. 

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16 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Well, well, well! Maybe this “Trump is a Kremlin asset” stuff actually has something to it after all.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/kgb-groomed-trump-as-an-asset-for-40-years-form-spy-says/

You know Trump would be over in Kyiv and Moscow brokering a peace deal if he was in the Oval Office. Can't stand the guy, but you have to recognize this mess would have never happened under Trump. If you don't recognize that you are just blinded by partisan hatred. 

And yes yes, the walls are closing in, Trump will be in prison in no time, blah blah blah. 

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45 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

You know Trump would be over in Kyiv and Moscow brokering a peace deal if he was in the Oval Office. Can't stand the guy, but you have to recognize this mess would have never happened under Trump. If you don't recognize that you are just blinded by partisan hatred. 

And yes yes, the walls are closing in, Trump will be in prison in no time, blah blah blah. 

Lock him and her up!!!

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They are reporting the use of white prosperous on civilians.  

It's yet another war crime. It can burn through bone.  There is no use for this in this campaign.  Goes to backing up Putin's desire to "cleanse" the Russian populace.  

You know when a leader begins to refer to some citizens as vermin, or insects, you're in holocaust territory.  Can we possibly be on the edge of a second holocaust within 100 yrs.?   WTF is wrong with mankind?

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One of my good friends lost a family member in Ukraine yesterday. 

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45 minutes ago, Andie said:

They are reporting the use of white prosperous on civilians.  

It's yet another war crime. It can burn through bone.  There is no use for this in this campaign.  Goes to backing up Putin's desire to "cleanse" the Russian populace.  

You know when a leader begins to refer to some citizens as vermin, or insects, you're in holocaust territory.  Can we possibly be on the edge of a second holocaust within 100 yrs.?   WTF is wrong with mankind?

Is white prosperity the same as white privilege?

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I posted a reply but it didn’t post. 
 

Anyway….. it’s “white phosphorus!”  😂
Spell check kept changing it.  Wtf! 
<sigh>. “There are days….…”

Putin is telling everyone in his Trump style rally that he’s ridding the nation of Nazis.

Are those people really that stupid?  Or that scared?
I mean many have relatives in Ukraine.  
What will Putin say when the body bags come home or no body comes home at all?

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Hello I'm russian

But I don't support the Putin's invasion to Ukraine. This is a war criminal to attack other country.

Putin should be tried at the International court for everything. He's definitely to be punished.

 

 

 

 

 

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On 3/18/2022 at 10:35 AM, SilverFallsAndrew said:

You know Trump would be over in Kyiv and Moscow brokering a peace deal if he was in the Oval Office. Can't stand the guy, but you have to recognize this mess would have never happened under Trump. If you don't recognize that you are just blinded by partisan hatred. 

And yes yes, the walls are closing in, Trump will be in prison in no time, blah blah blah. 

I have no doubt that Trump would give up  everything Americans have fought for to appease Putin.  So if you include things like giving up Ukraine territory to Russia, leaving NATO and not providing military aide to Eastern European countries as part of the "peace deal", you are absolutely right.

If you think Putin would not invade Ukraine because Trump asked him not to, you sir are the one blinded by partisanship.

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Trump sustained and enacted many policies that were directly against the interests of Russia (Putin, at least) during his presidency, people who believe that Trump and Putin were best buddies need to do more research. Trump boasting about his plan to assassinate Syrian president Bashar al-Assad (a firm ally of Putin, where Russia military has intervened on behalf of Syria since September 2015) and escalating the Ukraine conflict in Donbass by sending lethal military aid to Ukraine (where Obama only sent humanitarian aid) against pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass, all directly counters Russian interests in the region and is not something a "pro-Russian agent" would do. 

Obtaining verifiable information about the current war in Ukraine is quite difficult, as all sides involved are lying and have reason to do so. I do not believe Russian casualties are as high as Ukrainian+Western estimates would say, nor do I believe the Russian state (Kremlin) estimates of their own casualties and Ukrainian ones. Everyone is lying, mainly for morale reasons. 'The enemy always suffers high losses while we maintain very low losses or none at all' is typical of wars and war propaganda, and every faction involved does it. Foreign volunteers on Ukraine's side are learning about the reality of the situation, as they do not have the massive military support that they might be used to as part of any given US-led coalition in Middle-Eastern wars. Russia is the superior military foe in this war, despite how half-assed and occasionally incompetent their efforts have been thus far in this invasion. US intelligence had solid intel that this invasion was going to happen, and western powers (primarily the US and UK) did nothing to de-escalate tensions in the lead-up to this war. Now the entire world will pay the economic price, some more than others, and not a single one of your votes in your elections had a single say in it. Russia is not the only country with oligarchs.

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Enjoyed your post Reg.  It is indeed a very tangled knot of policy, lies, ego, long term plans, economic needs, even internal conflicts within each nation.   I have observed over many global conflicts dating back as far as the early Vietnam War that nothing is Asia t seems.  

God only knows what long term plans exist in this room egion.  Ukraine lies in a very sensitive part of Eastern Europe.  This reminds me so much of what I have read regarding pre-WW1 and it unnerves me.  Are we being sold a bill of goods? Or being sucked into a stewpot we can't escape.  I don't like in one damned bit and feel like we're being duped.  

For all the criticisms, Trump understood Putin better than we acknowledge.  International business has a way of educating us on a level policians refuse to ascend to.  It isn't all about politics.  I co built my own chemical processing plant in an extremely competitive business.  Was threatened physical harm due to it.  Not unlike global power struggles on a very small scale. I see this so clearly as do other entrepreneurs.  In politics, global economic dominance is always at play.  China and Russia are playing those cards in a hard ball game and America was until Biden got in office and began shutting that program down. It puts America back on its heels when I try should be leaning into the fight.  Where we go from her is a puzzlement as we do not have the leadership with the "manhood" to take the economic fight to the floor.  As always this is about global economic dominance posing as nationalism.  

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6 hours ago, Reg said:

Trump sustained and enacted many policies that were directly against the interests of Russia (Putin, at least) during his presidency, people who believe that Trump and Putin were best buddies need to do more research.

For the things that really mattered to Putin, Trump was firmly on Putin's side and against the West and even his own govt.

It has been said that Trump would have likely left NATO had he won reelection.

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This is true but Congress would fight back and it could become a  really ugly situation in DC.  
Pulling out might affect other military and international policy agreements.  Things are so interconnected a pull out might create a legal and security nightmare.  

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23 hours ago, chrisahasasmallpp said:

For the things that really mattered to Putin, Trump was firmly on Putin's side and against the West and even his own govt.

It has been said that Trump would have likely left NATO had he won reelection.

https://wapo.st/34Vt3QO

That would have been a good step. Why we continue to prop up these countries militarily and are bound by the NATO charter to defend them is beyond me. Is defending Estonia really in our national interest? 

Again I would say we should pivot hard towards the Western Hemisphere. Especially with China making inroads in Latin America. Leaving NATO we could focus more on the Indo-Pacific and return to pre-1917 relations with Russia. 

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I'm getting concerned Russia has something big planned for Mariupol. 

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I'm getting concerned Russia has something big planned for Mariupol. 

What’s on your mind, Andrew?

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Again I would say we should pivot hard towards the Western Hemisphere. Especially with China making inroads in Latin America. Leaving NATO we could focus more on the Indo-Pacific and return to pre-1917 relations with Russia. 

Also, considering China has been buying up great chunks of land in Africa as well it’s concerning to say the least.  
Whatever are they planning other than commerce?

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2 minutes ago, Andie said:

Also, considering China has been buying up great chunks of land in Africa as well it’s concerning to say the least.  
Whatever are they planning other than commerce?

Military bases? We have them all over the world too...

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8 minutes ago, Andie said:

What’s on your mind, Andrew?

I'm not sure, but they were really adamant about the surrender deadline. My guess is they are planning on total war for the city. I don't think they would hit it with a tactical nuke, but perhaps something with the same effect in terms of destruction. 

Mariupol is important because if they take Mariupol they can connect Crimea to the two breakaway Republics. If they control that area they would probably be good with negotiating a ceasefire predicated on keeping that region. 

Also from a national security perspective you would think Russia needs to make a statement. This war has been pretty embarrassing so far, they probably see a major show of force as necessary to save face. 

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13 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I'm not sure, but they were really adamant about the surrender deadline. My guess is they are planning on total war for the city. I don't think they would hit it with a tactical nuke, but perhaps something with the same effect in terms of destruction. 

Mariupol is important because if they take Mariupol they can connect Crimea to the two breakaway Republics. If they control that area they would probably be good with negotiating a ceasefire predicated on keeping that region. 

Also from a national security perspective you would think Russia needs to make a statement. This war has been pretty embarrassing so far, they probably see a major show of force as necessary to save face. 

I heard this morning they’re thinking of asking Putin’s mistress to go to Moscow and talk him into backing off. They think she may be the only person that can get through to him.  
 

On another front I heard there are reports that Russian Generals have shot themselves to get out of this siege. Now that’s low morale.  😄

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16 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I'm not sure, but they were really adamant about the surrender deadline. My guess is they are planning on total war for the city. I don't think they would hit it with a tactical nuke, but perhaps something with the same effect in terms of destruction. 

Mariupol is important because if they take Mariupol they can connect Crimea to the two breakaway Republics. If they control that area they would probably be good with negotiating a ceasefire predicated on keeping that region. 

Also from a national security perspective you would think Russia needs to make a statement. This war has been pretty embarrassing so far, they probably see a major show of force as necessary to save face. 

Great points.  
I’ve been amazed at how many Generals have disagreed with this incursion.  4 have died in battle (stunning). I’d love to listen to the conversations between Putin’s Oligarchs.  I don’t think they’re all on board unless they’re assured a profit.  
it’s all about the ruble. (worth 1 cent in US currency!) But their money is in Switzerland in Swiss francs. 

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On 3/21/2022 at 1:24 PM, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Again I would say we should pivot hard towards the Western Hemisphere. Especially with China making inroads in Latin America. Leaving NATO we could focus more on the Indo-Pacific and return to pre-1917 relations with Russia. 

So prop up latin American countries instead? And china has been making inroads all over the world (SE Asia and Africa especially) so I don't know how thats even a factor.

You sound like a Russian shill with a very large helping of Trump.

Fred was spot on.

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12 hours ago, chrisahasasmallpp said:

So prop up latin American countries instead? And china has been making inroads all over the world (SE Asia and Africa especially) so I don't know how thats even a factor.

You sound like a Russian shill with a very large helping of Trump.

Fred was spot on.

We should be moving our manufacturing back home and to Latin America, part of our plan to decrease our dependence on China. Also a more neutral stance towards Russia, as I said a pre-Bolshevik Revolution type of relationship would also work at preventing them from becoming essentially a colony of China in the next Century. Obviously we will want to maintain our Pacific Rim partnerships, but letting Europe handle their own affairs would be great. They are big boyz. 

And the whole Russian shill accusation is ridiculous, I could say you are a globalist neocon shill who likes to toss Chuck Schumer's salad, and it would be just as meaningless. 

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Just for grins, take a look at the old Soviet Union at its largest.  This is the territory Putin is wanting to restore to Mother Russia.  He's really crazy.

Now look at the territories in the southern Soviet Union.  A war down there would be seriously frightening. 

soviet_union_admin_1989.jpg

 

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Good article.  Most ignore his weaknesses and proclaim him to be a cross between Churchill and General Patton.  He's clearly neither.  Ambitious, Inexperienced, even naive.  His positives are great love of country, willingness to die for it (and just may), and his absolute faith is good triumphs over evil. 

I have found that in order for good to triumph over evil you have to use their own methods against them, but outwit them at it. I've been in that boat and my life was at risk, but I won.  It cost me a lot personally especially my faith in humankind. 

I don't believe Zelenskyy will live through this.  It's like he's embraced martyrdom.  His public legacy will be glossed over and papered in heroic terms.  However, it has been his early mishandling of things that contributed to this while the crime should be laid at Putin's feet, a far more treacherous chess player.

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4 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Meh.

He's a comedian that played a piano with his dick and then became president. Would anyone expect him to not make miscalculations, as if he isn't a seasoned politician, especially during the lead up to and subsequent invasion of his country? IMO, he's done what he's needed to do up to this point: rally the world behind him to impose strict sanctions on Russia and gain further military aide, boost the morale of his troops by standing alongside them instead of fleeing, and remained defiant and strong in the face of the destruction of his country. 

For a political novice he's handled this pretty well so far. Although time will tell whether that luck continues or he fumbles near the finish line, whenever that may come.

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4 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I swear you must be on the Russian disinformation list on your phone.

That author is a joke. 

https://asiatimes.com/author/james-carden/

Several articles about the conflict and nothing negative about the aggressor.

Snippet of an article before the invasion in 2021:

And on no subject is the bipartisan consensus more unshakable than on Russia. In the years since the start of the Ukrainian civil war in 2014, the US foreign-policy establishment adopted the position that Russia’s annexation of Crimea and its support for the rebellion in eastern Ukraine was only the beginning: They believed that Putin had his sights set on bigger things like seeking control of Eastern Europe and the Baltic states.

But was that really the case?

Mueller, citing the work of Robert Person, an associate professor at the US Military Academy in West Point, New York, notes that for Russia, Ukraine carries “deep symbolic meaning” as well as strategic importance due to the Russian naval base in Sevastopol, Crimea. But by contrast, Russia has “long recognized that the Baltics are culturally and historically different from Russia.”

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9 minutes ago, chrisahasasmallpp said:

I swear you must be on the Russian disinformation list on your phone.

That author is a joke. 

https://asiatimes.com/author/james-carden/

Several articles about the conflict and nothing negative about the aggressor.

Snippet of an article before the invasion in 2021:

And on no subject is the bipartisan consensus more unshakable than on Russia. In the years since the start of the Ukrainian civil war in 2014, the US foreign-policy establishment adopted the position that Russia’s annexation of Crimea and its support for the rebellion in eastern Ukraine was only the beginning: They believed that Putin had his sights set on bigger things like seeking control of Eastern Europe and the Baltic states.

But was that really the case?

Mueller, citing the work of Robert Person, an associate professor at the US Military Academy in West Point, New York, notes that for Russia, Ukraine carries “deep symbolic meaning” as well as strategic importance due to the Russian naval base in Sevastopol, Crimea. But by contrast, Russia has “long recognized that the Baltics are culturally and historically different from Russia.”

I don't disagree with that assessment of the Ukraine. And Crimea itself has long been considered Russian. 

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22 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I don't disagree with that assessment of the Ukraine. And Crimea itself has long been considered Russian

You don't disagree that Russia has no interest in Ukraine ie. Eastern Europe?

FFS stop reading pro-russian media.  They're trying to.overthrow a democratically elected government and you're sending us articles about how the president who is literally risking his life staying in kyiv actually sucks.

GTFO with this garbage.

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2 minutes ago, chrisahasasmallpp said:

You don't disagree that Russia has no interest in Ukraine ie. Eastern Europe?

FFS stop reading pro-russian media.  They're trying to.overthrow a democratically elected government and you're sending us articles about how the president who is literally risking his life staying in kyiv actually sucks.

GTFO with this garbage.

No, what I'm saying is the Baltic States are more distinct from Russia than Ukraine. Sorry for the confusion. 

Zelensky's unwillingness to deal unfortunately is causing the wholesale destruction of his nation, it's almost as if he's on a suicide mission. He is acting as if he has leverage he doesn't really have. The Ukrainian resistance has been inspiring, and he is winning the PR battle, but his country is being reduced to rubble, and in the end he's going to have to make meaningful concessions. Why not make them now and save lives. Acknowledge that Crimea is Russia, and give up the breakaway regions of Eastern Ukraine. Very simple, but he won't do it, which is why he is doing his best to start WWIII. 

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