April 2022 Observations & Discussions

[snowstorm83]

Boooooring outlook. At least temps look pleasant, mostly 50s and 60s.

[Tom]

45 minutes ago, james1976 said:

I drove all day and night from Virginia. Rained turned to very heavy snow just south of Waterloo. Heaviest I have seen all season. I was able to make it home just after sunrise. Looked like a couple inches of very wet snow. And now it's all melted. 41°.

My band's tour ended 3 days early due to an illness so we did a 20hr drive home. That one took a lot of coffee.

Did you switch drivers?  I’ve done the trip from from AZ to Chicago in 27 hours straight but no way with one driver.  That’s just to much….20 hours straight is pushing the limit for me!

 

Meantime, it’s snowing again but this time it’s in April.  The only good thing about this type of weather…???  Great napping!

 

 

 

[gimmesnow]

One of the biggest snowfalls of the season, while I'm waiting to get jet skis, kayak, and sailboat ready, can't snowmobile, can't snowboard, what a waste. This winter was so cruel, give me 60s and rain in the end of February to make the snow suck at ski hills, then give me snow when it's useless to me.

 

Pretty close analog, I hope 22-23 isn't like 03-04 because that winter was garbage too. I have about 3.5 inches on my deck right now and it's still coming down. I have half an idea to take my crappy snowboard and find a sledding hill lol.

[Tom]

It’s actually snowing hard enough to accumulate…big fatties flying…perfect timing to wake up from a nap ski…

 

 

[OmahaSnowFan]

[CentralNebWeather]

58 minutes ago, OmahaSnowFan said:

Disgusting maps. My future seems to be Red Flag Warnings and High Wind Warnings. Forecast for moisture in the next 2 weeks looks pitiful around here. 

[Mr Marine Layer]

2 hours ago, OmahaSnowFan said:

Snow drought

[gimmesnow]

3 hours ago, OmahaSnowFan said:

 

Wow thanks, I've been looking for something that shows how bad this has been.

[Tom]

ORD officially had 0.1" of snow on both April 1st and 2nd (32.6 season total)...and a Trace of snow on March 31st....3 days in a row with snow in the air, ok...I think that's enough, don't ya think?  Well, it appears that nature doesn't wanna let go of winter just yet for the GL's region later tonight into tomorrow and then again later in the week when yet another powerhouse cutoff low inundates the GL's.

0z GFS...

 

03z RAP...

 

On the flip side of Winter, Mother Nature will showcase some weather whiplash as the Sub Forum enters a potentially warm pattern in the Day 8-10 period.

0z Euro...this is going to bring forth a real Spring like pattern that will fuel storm action across the central Sub mid the following week.  Buckle up...things look interesting....oh, what about Easter weekend???  Well, let's not focus on that right now b/c it ain't trending rather nice.  The LR clues I've been leaning on are point towards that ugly way.

 

[westMJim]

Here in MBY I recorded 0.11" of rain/melted snow yesterday and overnight. The overnight low both here and at GRR was 33. The official high at GRR yesterday was 41 At this time it is mostly cloudy and 35 here.

[westMJim]

2 hours ago, Tom said:

On the flip side of Winter, Mother Nature will showcase some weather whiplash as the Sub Forum enters a potentially warm pattern in the Day 8-10 period.

I sure hope it indeed warms up. The baseball season starts here on April 8th the home opener for Grand Rapids is on April 12th and as I work for the local minor league baseball team (West Michigan Whitecaps) I sure hope it warms up. It in always cold in April and even early May but so far this year it has been very cold. And even though we have had a lot of rain and the grass is turning a little green it is still not spring like green yet. They do put a warming tarp on the field and that looks great.

[Clinton]

A nice spring day is expected here with temps in the upper 60s. A quick line of rain moves through this evening.

[Tom]

2 hours ago, westMJim said:

I sure hope it indeed warms up. The baseball season starts here on April 8th the home opener for Grand Rapids is on April 12th and as I work for the local minor league baseball team (West Michigan Whitecaps) I sure hope it warms up. It in always cold in April and even early May but so far this year it has been very cold. And even though we have had a lot of rain and the grass is turning a little green it is still not spring like green yet. They do put a warming tarp on the field and that looks great.

The Cubs home opener is scheduled for this Thursday and the weather looks ugly.  It’ll prob be postponed if the forecast holds.

[Niko]

Picked up 1.8" here in the Detroit Metro region this weekend. Wow. It just keeps coming in pieces. It has all melted off, but was kinda nice I guess seeing it, b4 Spring really kicks in.

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ASUS63 KDTX 031459
RTPDTX
MORNING TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION SUMMARY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
1059 AM EDT Sun Apr 3 2022


.BR DTX  0403  ES DH00/TAIRZX/DH08/TAIRZP/TA/PPDRZZ/SFDRZZ/SDIRZZ
:SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN -- TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION STATIONS
:....................................................................
:       STATION              MAX / MIN  / 8 AM  / 24-HR / SNOW/ SNOW
:        NAME                TEMP/ TEMP / TEMP  / PRECIP/ FALL/ DEPTH
:....................................................................
WHKM4: NWS White Lake      :   44 /  28  /  32  / 0.02  /  0.1 / T
ADG  : Adrian Airport      :   45 /  32  /  35  /
123M4: Ann Arbor           :   46 /  32 /   33  / 0.17  /  1.1 / 1
BAX  :*Bad Axe Airport     :   42 /  32  /  32  /
CFS  :*Caro Airport-Tuscola:   45 /  32  /  34  /
DET  : Detroit City Airport:   46 /  35  /  37  /
DTW  : Detroit Metro Airprt:   45 /  34  /  36  / 0.18  /  1.8 / 1

[CentralNebWeather]

8 hours ago, Tom said:

ORD officially had 0.1" of snow on both April 1st and 2nd (32.6 season total)...and a Trace of snow on March 31st....3 days in a row with snow in the air, ok...I think that's enough, don't ya think?  Well, it appears that nature doesn't wanna let go of winter just yet for the GL's region later tonight into tomorrow and then again later in the week when yet another powerhouse cutoff low inundates the GL's.

0z GFS...

 

03z RAP...

 

On the flip side of Winter, Mother Nature will showcase some weather whiplash as the Sub Forum enters a potentially warm pattern in the Day 8-10 period.

0z Euro...this is going to bring forth a real Spring like pattern that will fuel storm action across the central Sub mid the following week.  Buckle up...things look interesting....oh, what about Easter weekend???  Well, let's not focus on that right now b/c it ain't trending rather nice.  The LR clues I've been leaning on are point towards that ugly way.

 

But no rain around here. GFS with not a drop the next 10 days. Pastor at church today praying for rain. 

[CentralNebWeather]

NWS Hastings talking about blowing dust concern Wednesday. My goodness. 

[james1976]

On 4/2/2022 at 2:55 PM, Tom said:

Did you switch drivers?  I’ve done the trip from from AZ to Chicago in 27 hours straight but no way with one driver.  That’s just to much….20 hours straight is pushing the limit for me!

 

Meantime, it’s snowing again but this time it’s in April.  The only good thing about this type of weather…???  Great napping!

 

 

 

Yeah for like 3 hours haha. It was tough. Unfortunately I think I have the flu bug now. 

Some nice spring weather sounds good right now but that prolly isn't happening this week. 

[jaster220]

On 4/2/2022 at 4:02 PM, gimmesnow said:

One of the biggest snowfalls of the season, while I'm waiting to get jet skis, kayak, and sailboat ready, can't snowmobile, can't snowboard, what a waste. This winter was so cruel, give me 60s and rain in the end of February to make the snow suck at ski hills, then give me snow when it's useless to me.

 

Pretty close analog, I hope 22-23 isn't like 03-04 because that winter was garbage too. I have about 3.5 inches on my deck right now and it's still coming down. I have half an idea to take my crappy snowboard and find a sledding hill lol.

On 4/17/20 (after like 6 wks of warmth) I suddenly got a decent snowfall. It was a very wet and heavy snow that was falling on warm ground and compacting a lot. I was so past winter, I wasn't even taking the time to measure at proper intervals. When I finally had to brush my car off to go somewhere, I measured the 4" of cement on the roof. I just put 4.0" in my log, but it may well have been more like 5 or 6 prior to all the compaction. 

[jaster220]

7 hours ago, Niko said:

Picked up 1.8" here in the Detroit Metro region this weekend. Wow. It just keeps coming in pieces. It has all melted off, but was kinda nice I guess seeing it, b4 Spring really kicks in.

000
ASUS63 KDTX 031459
RTPDTX
MORNING TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION SUMMARY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
1059 AM EDT Sun Apr 3 2022


.BR DTX  0403  ES DH00/TAIRZX/DH08/TAIRZP/TA/PPDRZZ/SFDRZZ/SDIRZZ
:SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN -- TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION STATIONS
:....................................................................
:       STATION              MAX / MIN  / 8 AM  / 24-HR / SNOW/ SNOW
:        NAME                TEMP/ TEMP / TEMP  / PRECIP/ FALL/ DEPTH
:....................................................................
WHKM4: NWS White Lake      :   44 /  28  /  32  / 0.02  /  0.1 / T
ADG  : Adrian Airport      :   45 /  32  /  35  /
123M4: Ann Arbor           :   46 /  32 /   33  / 0.17  /  1.1 / 1
BAX  :*Bad Axe Airport     :   42 /  32  /  32  /
CFS  :*Caro Airport-Tuscola:   45 /  32  /  34  /
DET  : Detroit City Airport:   46 /  35  /  37  /
DTW  : Detroit Metro Airprt:   45 /  34  /  36  / 0.18  /  1.8 / 1

That must've been a pretty narrow band of snow (N-S) as I had nothing/nada/zilch here in Canton just 8 miles north of DTW. Driving west on 94 this early pm, I did see snow covered ground and temps around 36F west of AA. Go spring! 

[Niko]

Here we go again.......

Chance for snow tonight

Chance of snow for tomorrow and rain/snow mix for later in the afternoon

 

 

[Niko]

25 minutes ago, jaster220 said:

That must've been a pretty narrow band of snow (N-S) as I had nothing/nada/zilch here in Canton just 8 miles north of DTW. Driving west on 94 this early pm, I did see snow covered ground and temps around 36F west of AA. Go spring! 

Yes sir. Was definitely a very narrow band hovering over the Metro area. Not sure, but I think more snow has fallen here in April than back in December. Crazy.

Hopefully, mild air will when out in the coming weeks.

[jaster220]

11 minutes ago, Niko said:

Here we go again.......

Chance for snow tonight

Chance of snow for tomorrow and rain/snow mix for later in the afternoon

 

 

Sorry amigo, but I had to down-vote that since it is April, and won't be like a real snowstorm, just more nuisance level stuff. 

[Niko]

Just now, jaster220 said:

Sorry amigo, but I had to down-vote that since it is April, and won't be like a real snowstorm, just more nuisance level stuff. 

You are absolutely correct. I don't blame ya. A double down-vote from me as well

[jaster220]

1 minute ago, Niko said:

Yes sir. Was definitely a very narrow band hovering over the Metro area. Not sure, but I think more snow has fallen here in April than back in December. Crazy.

Yep. At least for mby, 3.2" (so far) in April, and just 2.5" back in December

[Niko]

5 minutes ago, jaster220 said:

Yep. At least for mby, 3.2" (so far) in April, and just 2.5" back in December

That is just insane. Unimaginable. I don't know what happened to December anymore. It just does not want to snow anymore during that given month. How many years has it been like this now?? .......3rd, 4th year in a row?....5th? Just absurd. I remember Decembers being snowy and frigid.

[IMoveALot_Weather]

To my surprise, I'm getting heavy slush right now. 36°F.

[Madtown]

looks like an over performer tonight

[Phil]

Another day with 40+mph winds. Have had a lot of those lately.

Soaking rain likely Tues-PM/Wed-AM, then another round likely Thur-PM, possibly more convective in nature. 

[Tom]

Next week looks quite interesting as we enter a more typical climo pattern heading into mid April.  Teleconnections support a hard cutter up into the Upper MW...I smell a late season Blitz for the N Rockies/Black Hills/Dakotas.  Could @hawkstwelveget involved??  Could be close for ya...

Gosh, it does appear the longstanding idea wrt Easter Weekend are not trending nicely....

 

 

On the warm side of things, the warmer and active pattern setting up is poised to setup a multi day severe wx threat.  The battle of the seasons looks interesting.

 

[Clinton]

I picked up .25 inches of rain overnight and have thick fog this morning.  The home opener for the Royals looks miserable with cloudy damp conditions and temps in the 40s.  Looking forward to the second half of the month as temps should rise and the big thunderstorms hit.

[WinterSquall23]

11 hours ago, Niko said:

That is just insane. Unimaginable. I don't know what happened to December anymore. It just does not want to snow anymore during that given month. How many years has it been like this now?? .......3rd, 4th year in a row?....5th? Just absurd. I remember Decembers being snowy and frigid.

2017 was a good year, we lived at Union Lake.  One of the best Christmas snows I can remember.  In November I think it was near 80s.  The. one day like a switch, winter hit early December.  Totally agree the last few have been snoozers for us in the metro area. 

[OttumwaSnomow]

On 4/2/2022 at 7:02 PM, OmahaSnowFan said:

That seasonal  snowfall map is woefully inaccurate. I meticulously  measured 30" here near Ottumwa  Iowa. On a snow board according to standards. I find  snow  measuring  to be inaccurate  often, cocorahs or observers  that measure at 6 am only?  Probably mostly based on radar?  Ive found 3 sources for average annual  snowfall for my town online, why? Also  spots west  of Hagerstown  md with only 6 inches? Etc etc

[IMoveALot_Weather]

Woke up to a surprise 2" on the ground. I was just supposed to get rain.

[Hawkeye]

I received 0.33" of rain yesterday.

[Madtown]

9 hours ago, Madtown said:

looks like an over performer tonight

 

[westMJim]

Most of the overnight the temperature was at 40 or in the upper 30's the low so far today is the current temperature of  34. At this time there is moderate snow falling but with the temperature of 34 and a warm ground the snow is not sticking. 

[Timmy Supercell]

It's happening! Gorillas. 

@Phil@Andie

[snowstorm83]

2 hours ago, OttumwaSnomow said:

That seasonal  snowfall map is woefully inaccurate. I meticulously  measured 30" here near Ottumwa  Iowa. On a snow board according to standards. I find  snow  measuring  to be inaccurate  often, cocorahs or observers  that measure at 6 am only?  Probably mostly based on radar?  Ive found 3 sources for average annual  snowfall for my town online, why? Also  spots west  of Hagerstown  md with only 6 inches? Etc etc

Yeah these maps aren't always the best, though I can say it's pretty accurare for eastern Nebraska so the contrast from most of IA should be even greater than that map shows ugh lol. 

[CentralNebWeather]

45 minutes ago, snowstorm83 said:

Yeah these maps aren't always the best, though I can say it's pretty accurare for eastern Nebraska so the contrast from most of IA should be even greater than that map shows ugh lol. 

100% accurate here. 

[Timmy Supercell]

3 hours ago, OttumwaSnomow said:

That seasonal  snowfall map is woefully inaccurate. I meticulously  measured 30" here near Ottumwa  Iowa. On a snow board according to standards. I find  snow  measuring  to be inaccurate  often, cocorahs or observers  that measure at 6 am only?  Probably mostly based on radar?  Ive found 3 sources for average annual  snowfall for my town online, why? Also  spots west  of Hagerstown  md with only 6 inches? Etc etc

It did well for the PNW IMO. Last two La Nina's were predominantly Washington Cascades producers leaving most of Oregon south of about Mt. Hood in the dry.

Northeastern KY at best averages 12-18" and as the map shows around that much fell. My notes match with what has fallen and what the map shows. I guess it really depends where you live and may not reflect some micro climates. 

[CentralNebWeather]

 

[james1976]

7 hours ago, MSP_Weather said:

Woke up to a surprise 2" on the ground. I was just supposed to get rain.

Yup that's about what we had here in Vadnais Heights. It's all melted now.

[hawkstwelve]

12z Euro showed 1200+ jules of CAPE for early next week with 2200+ not too far away in SE SD/NE Nebraska. Might make things a little interesting!

I think the most J/kg I achieved in the PNW was 500-800 J, maybe 1000 in our more "extreme" events. Never got even close to 2000. 

[Bellona]

7 hours ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

It's happening! Gorillas. 

@Phil@Andie

Uhm...just wondering here, what is a wind bag? Lol I know what one is but, never heard it referenced in weather.

[OmahaSnowFan]

20 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

12z Euro showed 1200+ jules of CAPE for early next week with 2200+ not too far away in SE SD/NE Nebraska. Might make things a little interesting!

I think the most J/kg I achieved in the PNW was 500-800 J, maybe 1000 in our more "extreme" events. Never got even close to 2000. 

wait until the dog days of summer when it's in the 90s and dews in the 70s and you can get CAPE over 7k-8k!! Most of those days are sunny and humid with no storms as there's nothing to trigger any development.

[Timmy Supercell]

24 minutes ago, Bellona said:

Uhm...just wondering here, what is a wind bag? Lol I know what one is but, never heard it referenced in weather.

Relatively new term for me as well. May have heard it once but I'm convinced Reed invented a few of these.

There's supposed to be a chaser term called bird fart but other than Reed I've never seen another chaser on video use it. lol

[CentralNebWeather]

From bad to worse. Drought and damaging winds. Fire weather and blowing dust most of the week. 

 

[OmahaSnowFan]

Yes please!

[bud2380]

4 hours ago, Bellona said:

Uhm...just wondering here, what is a wind bag? Lol I know what one is but, never heard it referenced in weather.

For that matter what is gorilla hail? Just a sensationalist term to describe large hail? 

[Bellona]

21 minutes ago, bud2380 said:

For that matter what is gorilla hail? Just a sensationalist term to describe large hail? 

That's exactly all it is. Make it sound as bad as we can. Lol