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1 hour ago, hawkstwelve said:

Woah... Supreme Court is going to overturn Roe v Wade. That will cause some political shockwaves.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473

As big as overturning Roe may be, the bigger story may be the leaking of a draft opinion such as this. Big hit for a court that already has some serious credibility issues.

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53 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

As big as overturning Roe may be, the bigger story may be the leaking of a draft opinion such as this. Big hit for a court that already has some serious credibility issues.

Bigger story than overturning 50 years of precedent?  I don't see it.

Not to mention that the draft has its sites on other previous rulings that may have not been "rooted in America" - such as obergefell v. hodges, the thing that made gay marriage legal nationwide.

 

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1 hour ago, Deweydog said:

As big as overturning Roe may be, the bigger story may be the leaking of a draft opinion such as this. Big hit for a court that already has some serious credibility issues.

I would imagine the leak has to be somewhere from the liberal side of the Court. Trying to 'sound the alarms before it's too late' sort of thing. Can't imagine why the conservative majority would intentionally leak this right now. No real benefit. 

It will be really interesting to see the ramifications of this on the midterms, if there are any. I could see this helping Democrats fire up their sleepy base a bit. Schumer and Pelosi are already angling for this to be a fight in Congress and the sky is already falling on Twitter, Reddit, etc. 

I think we just plowed head first into the next culture war. Fun times!

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18 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

I would imagine the leak has to be somewhere from the liberal side of the Court. Trying to 'sound the alarms before it's too late' sort of thing. Can't imagine why the conservative majority would intentionally leak this right now. No real benefit. 

It will be really interesting to see the ramifications of this on the midterms, if there are any. I could see this helping Democrats fire up their sleepy base a bit. Schumer and Pelosi are already angling for this to be a fight in Congress and the sky is already falling on Twitter, Reddit, etc. 

I think we just plowed head first into the next culture war. Fun times!

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Yeah probably a clerk for one of the liberal judges trying to use the court of public opinion to sway someone's vote.  Not gonna happen.

Somehow conservatives have mastered the art of pushing for unpopular things and not face electoral consequences.  It defies logic.

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36 minutes ago, einsteinjr said:

Bigger story than overturning 50 years of precedent?  I don't see it.

Not to mention that the draft has its sites on other previous rulings that may have not been "rooted in America" - such as obergefell v. hodges, the thing that made gay marriage legal nationwide.

 

Roe has always been in danger of being overturned and many scholars have long believed it was just a matter of time. Part of that rationale is the overall politicization of the court itself. This situation, given the timing and unprecedented nature, will only take that to a new, toxic level.

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The leaker has become the lead.  

What a circus.  Dewey’s right. The toxicity just crossed the Supreme Courts silent door.  

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Unreal watching people melt down because they can’t murder infants. We must all pay for our sins. 

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On 5/2/2022 at 9:22 PM, einsteinjr said:

Yeah probably a clerk for one of the liberal judges trying to use the court of public opinion to sway someone's vote.  Not gonna happen.

Somehow conservatives have mastered the art of pushing for unpopular things and not face electoral consequences.  It defies logic.

You are surprisingly stoic about this. A lot of lefties are melting down they might not be able to throw babies in the garbage. 

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15 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

If they play it right, this could all be a huge electoral windfall for the Democrats this November.

Heck, it could be a huge windfall for the Democrats even if (as usual) they don’t play it right.

Have to overcome a lot of headwinds. People are more concerned about their soaring grocery and energy bill. 

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7 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

You are surprisingly stoic about this. A lot of lefties are melting down they might not be able to throw babies in the garbage. 

I'm of the opinion people's opinions are not going to change on this subject so there's literally no reason to talk about it in this kind of forum.

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34 minutes ago, einsteinjr said:

How exactly are you paying?

That is for me to know. You will learn in your own way and your own time. 

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1 hour ago, einsteinjr said:

You are such a fraud.

Only you take me seriously. Lol

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8 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Ironic that her departure paved the way for this present moment. 

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I’ve known 3 people that have had abortions. None are me. 
I can’t really say it affected them for the better.   They carried it all their lives.  So actions do have consequences, often consequences that are not anticipated at the time and painful all their lives. 
 

I’m sure there are those unaffected but I don’t know of any.  

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59 minutes ago, Andie said:

I’ve known 3 people that have had abortions. None are me. 
I can’t really say it affected them for the better.   They carried it all their lives.  So actions do have consequences, often consequences that are not anticipated at the time and painful all their lives. 
 

I’m sure there are those unaffected but I don’t know of any.  

I have a very close family member who chose to terminate their pregnancy. I know they agonized over it, I offered to take the child in if they had carried it to term, but in the end they made the choice they made. If you asked her she would probably say she is fine, but I can tell you that no one brings up abortion around her, or if they do they regret it. She gets very angry and defensive, just about the topic in general. It obviously still weighs on her, to me she is an unrepentant killer with a guilty conscience. 

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Ok time to get serious... 

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12 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Have to overcome a lot of headwinds. People are more concerned about their soaring grocery and energy bill. 

Remains to be seen (note I said could be in my post).

Loss aversion is a thing. (This is the well-known aspect of human psychology, demonstrated in numerous experiments, that people tend to regard losing something they already have as a worse bad outcome than gaining an equivalent something they never had as a good outcome. Also, fetuses don’t vote.)

It's called clown range for a reason.

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1 hour ago, Andie said:

I’ve known 3 people that have had abortions. None are me. 
I can’t really say it affected them for the better.   They carried it all their lives.  So actions do have consequences, often consequences that are not anticipated at the time and painful all their lives. 
 

I’m sure there are those unaffected but I don’t know of any.  

I don’t think many people, even those who have had one and perceive themselves as having benefited from it, see an abortion as a net positive thing in the abstract. It’s only seen as a positive in the context of the plausible alternatives.

I mean, I just don’t see girls commonly announcing that having an abortion someday is a goal in their lives when they grow up. Marriage, wealth, fame, a particular career, social esteem, etc., yes. An abortion, no.

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51 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I have a very close family member who chose to terminate their pregnancy. I know they agonized over it, I offered to take the child in if they had carried it to term, but in the end they made the choice they made. If you asked her she would probably say she is fine, but I can tell you that no one brings up abortion around her, or if they do they regret it. She gets very angry and defensive, just about the topic in general. It obviously still weighs on her, to me she is an unrepentant killer with a guilty conscience. 

How did the potential father handle it? 

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1 hour ago, Andie said:

I’ve known 3 people that have had abortions. None are me. 
I can’t really say it affected them for the better.   They carried it all their lives.  So actions do have consequences, often consequences that are not anticipated at the time and painful all their lives. 
 

I’m sure there are those unaffected but I don’t know of any.  

I would like to think that anyone with half a soul would be affected to some degree.  Sadly there are people out there who think its no big deal.  My high school girlfriend and I had a scare, and we lived in a wealthy area where "there was no teenage pregnancy"  I say that tongue in cheek of course....

For us, there was no discussion of abortion, we were going figure out how to make it work.  Fortunately for us, she was just very "late" (you could usually set your watch by her cycle).  I say fortunately because in all reality, we were not ready to be parents, and she would not have been able to continue at our school.  She is MENSA level smart and we were in one of the top 3 public schools in the state. 

At the time of the scare, I believe the law on the books at time time required the woman to come in for counseling, and then there was a 1-2 day waiting period.  I think that is a reasonable process, and maybe it would get through to some of those women who think it is no big deal.

A long litany of polls indicate that 60%+ of people want Roe to stand.  That does not mean that 60%+ are "pro abortion."  It means that 60% of people recognize that this is a woman's personal private decision.

 

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1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Remains to be seen (note I said could be in my post).

Loss aversion is a thing. (This is the well-known aspect of human psychology, demonstrated in numerous experiments, that people tend to regard losing something they already have as a worse bad outcome than gaining an equivalent something they never had as a good outcome. Also, fetuses don’t vote.)

Would-be liberals who get aborted also don't vote.

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It’s a very personal decision and I’m certain they experienced a mix of feelings over their action.  
I can’t judge them. I just know they were neither completely pleased about it nor upset about it.  
Im just thankful I never found myself in that position.  

I knew one of the men as well.  I gave my word to keep my mouth shut and I did.  But years later as he was dying of an illness they couldn’t cure he said in a magazine article, published after his passing, that he regretted never having children.  He was a successful artist. Fulbright scholar and all. My heart just broke for him.  

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40 minutes ago, Chewbacca Defense said:

 

A long litany of polls indicate that 60%+ of people want Roe to stand.  That does not mean that 60%+ are "pro abortion."  It means that 60% of people recognize that this is a woman's personal private decision.

 

Varies wildly by state, though. The problem many see with Roe v. Wade is that it was a federal decision that basically outlawed states from making their own choices - as determined by the citizens of those states and/or their representatives.

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12 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Varies wildly by state, though. The problem many see with Roe v. Wade is that it was a federal decision that basically outlawed states from making their own choices - as determined by the citizens of those states and/or their representatives.

Well, that’s what they say currently, anyhow.

I rather suspect that if Roe gets overturned, the next goal for the anti-abortion crowd will be to Federalize the issue in their direction. I mean, if abortion is murder, you really don’t want states deciding that legalized murder is OK, do you?

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The Federal level and Supremes may be sick of this soccer ball and kick it to the States.  Let’s them deal with it.  
Opinions do vary regionally and it would be off their docket once and for all.   
(Or until some State gets it’s knickers in a twist)

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13 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Varies wildly by state, though. The problem many see with Roe v. Wade is that it was a federal decision that basically outlawed states from making their own choices - as determined by the citizens of those states and/or their representatives.

Taken on its merits, Roe vs. Wade was pretty poorly argued and at best it’s a shaky example of American jurisprudence. The reason it’s survived this long is that despite it not being “settled law” overturning it will be an overt act that removes personal freedoms. SCOTUS has always been very wary of those types of maneuvers.

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2 hours ago, Deweydog said:

How did the potential father handle it? 

He was kind of in denial, he didn’t believe her that she was pregnant, then begged her to keep it, but I think his initial reaction kind of made it hard for her to believe that he was going to step up. 

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At least she’s living her values. 

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Ok. Sorry guys.

im done here

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I’ve lost track how many times this issue has been litigated.  It’s like the 7 headed hydra.  
Just won’t settle down. 

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Elon Musk has made some well funded political enemies with his talk of free speech.  
Big money has bellied up to the bar to squash him.  Here we go.  
 

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“It is important precedent of the Supreme Court that has been reaffirmed many times,” Kavanaugh said in response to one of a slew of questions on abortion during his confirmation hearings. Furthermore, Kavanaugh underscored that the core tenets of the landmark 1973 decision were upheld nearly two decades later: “It is not as if it is just a run-of-the-mill case that was decided and never been reconsidered.”

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1 hour ago, einsteinjr said:

Perjury?

“It is important precedent of the Supreme Court that has been reaffirmed many times,” Kavanaugh said in response to one of a slew of questions on abortion during his confirmation hearings. Furthermore, Kavanaugh underscored that the core tenets of the landmark 1973 decision were upheld nearly two decades later: “It is not as if it is just a run-of-the-mill case that was decided and never been reconsidered.”

That was several years ago, opinions change. 

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23 hours ago, Andie said:

I’ve known 3 people that have had abortions. None are me. 
I can’t really say it affected them for the better.   They carried it all their lives.  So actions do have consequences, often consequences that are not anticipated at the time and painful all their lives. 
 

I’m sure there are those unaffected but I don’t know of any.  

There are cases where it's needed to save the woman's life (Ectopic pregnancy) or if they got attacked and became pregnant.

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19 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

He was kind of in denial, he didn’t believe her that she was pregnant, then begged her to keep it, but I think his initial reaction kind of made it hard for her to believe that he was going to step up. 

So in a perfect world, would he also be criminally culpable?

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6 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

So in a perfect world, would he also be criminally culpable?

No, he never encouraged the abortion or supported it. 

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9 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No, he never encouraged the abortion or supported it. 

But it was his hot dog in the bun, right?

From a legal perspective, the “but for” test is pretty common when culpability becomes more proximate. If we slide into a world where a fetus at any stage takes on the role of a victim, things will get very complicated. Fun times ahead!!?!

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12 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

But it was his hot dog in the bun, right?

From a legal perspective, the “but for” test is pretty common when culpability becomes more proximate. If we slide into a world where a fetus at any stage takes on the role of a victim, things will get very complicated. Fun times ahead!!?!

You have a point, he did knock her up, and he clearly couldn't get his woman in line. 

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That was several years ago, opinions change. 

Fair point, I guess the only caveat to that is if he (or any other SC Justice nominee) had made contradictory statements prior to the hearings.  I can't honestly say if that is the case here, but if it was it would definitely raise questions on credibility.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

But it was his hot dog in the bun, right?

From a legal perspective, the “but for” test is pretty common when culpability becomes more proximate. If we slide into a world where a fetus at any stage takes on the role of a victim, things will get very complicated. Fun times ahead!!?!

Now if we did restrict abortion, I would support a father's financial obligation beginning earlier... So if a state restricts abortion at 15 weeks, then child support would begin at that point. 

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2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That was several years ago, opinions change. 

lol.  So I guess the SC nominees get to say whatever the f*ck they want under oath because...opinions change?

I wonder if his opinion that he's never gotten black-out drunk in his life also changed.

Gimme a break.

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Now if we did restrict abortion, I would support a father's financial obligation beginning earlier... So if a state restricts abortion at 15 weeks, then child support would begin at that point. 

That’s all civil though, and would be a drop in the bucket. States are extremely limited in their ability to criminally enforce non-payment, despite it appearing or promoting otherwise.

The criminal test would the question of but for the fact the spreader spread his seed, would the murder have taken place. You’d have a bit of a hill to climb from a mens rea perspective, but any decent prosecutor, or even me, could make it work. Like I said, it’ll be fun to watch. Let the horny beware!

 

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5 hours ago, einsteinjr said:

lol.  So I guess the SC nominees get to say whatever the f*ck they want under oath because...opinions change?

I wonder if his opinion that he's never gotten black-out drunk in his life also changed.

Gimme a break.

Blasey Ford and Amber Heard are two pathological peas in a pod. They’re transparent af about it too yet gullible morons fall for it each time. 

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