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19 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

Fear is a more primal urge than compassion (however errant some of it might be), so the far right came first.  Basic evolution.

And he actually thinks that the extreme left is in power, which is hilarious.

Biden would be a center-right politician in most of the rest of the first world.

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2 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

And he actually thinks that the extreme left is in power, which is hilarious.

Biden would be a center-right politician in most of the rest of the first world.

The only people in power are the ones who abide by the rules set forth by the wealthy.  Party affiliation means nothing.

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21 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

The only people in power are the ones who abide by the rules set forth by the wealthy.  Party affiliation means nothing.

Well, sure. Political systems exist support the continued rule of the powerful. Any procedural democracy that might threaten that is in contravention of this principle, so such instances of democracy tend to be rare.

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1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

And he actually thinks that the extreme left is in power, which is hilarious.

Biden would be a center-right politician in most of the rest of the first world.

The extreme left is not in power, they are in the House of Representatives. That is the part where they should be voted out in order for rhe far right to be out next. Far Right out first emboldens them to do more what they want as long as the Democrats (their party) are in power. 

 

If the extreme left are in power, then we could be in serious trouble. 

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Apparently Trump is openly calling for the complete disregard of the Constitution. 

He's so completely lost it that I think he ends up burying himself before we even hit next summer, which is when most presidential contenders decide to throw their hat in the ring. That is if the legal battles don't get him first... 🤞

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2 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

Apparently Trump is openly calling for the complete disregard of the Constitution. 

He's so completely lost it that I think he ends up burying himself before we even hit next summer, which is when most presidential contenders decide to throw their hat in the ring. That is if the legal battles don't get him first... 🤞

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That almost made me not wanting to vote for him. (Unless the intention of something else, I think that he meant to say that the Democrats are wanting to wipe out the Constitution by using Elections as a weapon. (According to him))

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2 hours ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Where would the Founding Fathers be? 

Where are white supremacists on the spectrum of political ideology?  Because you D**n well know for sure they all were.

Aside from that, the "founding fathers" were not homogenous in their beliefs by any means.  State vs. Federal arguments were being had back then, too.

Somewhat related, John Adams was a great miniseries.  Highly recommend.

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1 hour ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Where are white supremacists on the spectrum of political ideology?  Because you D**n well know for sure they all were.

Aside from that, the "founding fathers" were not homogenous in their beliefs by any means.  State vs. Federal arguments were being had back then, too.

Somewhat related, John Adams was a great miniseries.  Highly recommend.

That political spectrum site is a joke anyway. I took the test and I was right in the middle, further left than Biden and Bernie Sanders.

True liberals are in favor of capitalism, meritocracy, are color blind (skin color does not matter), believe in individual responsibility and support equal rights. They are proud of our country despite its many flaws. They favor liberty over equality.

The left is anti-capitalist, collectivist, blames racism for all disparities and favors wealth redistribution and unequal treatment to achieve equal results. They are globalist and hate America. They favor equality over liberty.

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Hmmmm,  this is just developing, Apple is considering leaving China over the protests.   
American production of pharmaceuticals should come home too!

We make nothing here and are vulnerable. We need to bring as much as possible home.
Heard this on morning news quoting a Wall St. Journal article.  

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12 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

That almost made me not wanting to vote for him. (Unless the intention of something else, I think that he meant to say that the Democrats are wanting to wipe out the Constitution by using Elections as a weapon. (According to him))

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14 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

The extreme left is not in power, they are in the House of Representatives. That is the part where they should be voted out in order for rhe far right to be out next. Far Right out first emboldens them to do more what they want as long as the Democrats (their party) are in power.

The politics of the so-called Squad, which numbers under a dozen, approximates that of your average social-democratic party in western Europe (many of which have actually held a majority and governed at times). Not “extreme left” by any means, except perhaps to someone so far to the right that he doesn’t think Trump trying to become president for life of a fascist USA is enough of a reason to not support him.

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1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

The politics of the so-called Squad, which numbers under a dozen, approximates that of your average social-democratic party in western Europe (many of which have actually held a majority and governed at times). Not “extreme left” by any means, except perhaps to someone so far to the right that he doesn’t think Trump trying to become president for life of a fascist USA is enough of a reason to not support him.

Socialism is still being viewed as an extremist here. Someone once mentioned that Washington would have to triple it's money potential just to satisfy their demands. 

 

The Green New Deal is extremely dangerous and they are asking for mass blackouts and economic depression. Look at what is happening in California! That could be a warning to the rest of us on what will happen if we go to unreliable Green Energy too quickly. We currentky don't have the technology to have a energy source that is renewable and sustainable. Rush Limbaugh once said that we can go there once we find a sustainable resource that is renewable, but we are not there yet.

 

The current Green Energy produces far less energy compared to Oil, Fuel, and Natural Gas. We can't go to green energy yet until it produces a lot of sustainable energy. 

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1 hour ago, Iceresistance said:

Socialism is still being viewed as an extremist here. Someone once mentioned that Washington would have to triple it's money potential just to satisfy their demands.

Well, sure, the Squad is stupid for branding their politics as socialist. Would be much wiser to choose another label that does not have such a negative perception amongst so many US voters. No disagreement there.

But, stupid branding and extreme politics are two different things.

 

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The Green New Deal is extremely dangerous and they are asking for mass blackouts and economic depression. Look at what is happening in California! That could be a warning to the rest of us on what will happen if we go to unreliable Green Energy too quickly. We currentky don't have the technology to have a energy source that is renewable and sustainable. Rush Limbaugh once said that we can go there once we find a sustainable resource that is renewable, but we are not there yet.

The current Green Energy produces far less energy compared to Oil, Fuel, and Natural Gas. We can't go to green energy yet until it produces a lot of sustainable energy. 

Trying to change the subject again. Not biting.

It's called clown range for a reason.

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52 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

A religious man trying to find the humanity in someone who has none.  Or a bit of revisionism.  Or throwing the dog a bone.  Or a combination.

Trump's gonna Trump.

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10 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

I'm aware that this possibility is very low, but what if they were Russian Sabotagers taking down the grid by using the upcoming winter as a offensive (think of it as offense) weapon? This may be the first time that the Russians are using the bitterly cold winter as a weapon to their advantage. The other times they used it was as a defensive strategy against Napoleon in the 1800s and Germany in WW2. 

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6 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

I'm aware that this possibility is very low, but what if they were Russian Sabotagers taking down the grid by using the upcoming winter as a offensive (think of it as offense) weapon? This may be the first time that the Russians are using the bitterly cold winter as a weapon to their advantage. The other times they used it was as a defensive strategy against Napoleon in the 1800s and Germany in WW2. 

Would that be grounds for us to take out Putin?  If so, they can shoot at the substation right by my house for all I care 😈

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4 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

I just read about it. We’ve had a few of incidents like this over the years, usually only causing minor damage to electrical substation equipment with little impact on electrical services. This one looks to have been more successful.

No word on a motive yet. Could be people just etching to stir up trouble on any side, regardless of ideology. We have several “Boogaloo bois” plan to blow up a few substations in the summer of 2020 but they decided to kill some police officers instead.

 

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12 minutes ago, Reg said:

I just read about it. We’ve had a few of incidents like this over the years, usually only causing minor damage to electrical substation equipment with little impact on electrical services. This one looks to have been more successful.

No word on a motive yet. Could be people just etching to stir up trouble on any side, regardless of ideology. We have several “Boogaloo bois” plan to blow up a few substations in the summer of 2020 but they decided to kill some police officers instead.

Could be these:

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Or these:

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On 12/3/2022 at 7:14 PM, hawkstwelve said:

He's so completely lost it that I think he ends up burying himself before we even hit next summer, which is when most presidential contenders decide to throw their hat in the ring.

Extremely unlikely, IMO.  He has the nomination in the bag.

You should get the leadership of the republican party and people like IceResistance on the same train you are on.  Then the dam might actually break.

But far more remained silent, including Kevin McCarthy, the House minority leader who hopes to become speaker when Republicans take control of the chamber in January, and who made a point last month of declaring that Republicans would read the Constitution aloud on the House floor on their first day in charge. Two press representatives for Mr. McCarthy did not immediately respond to requests for comment on Sunday.

In an interview on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday morning, Representative David Joyce of Ohio illustrated Republicans’ unyielding loyalty to Mr. Trump.

Mr. Joyce dodged three questions from the anchor, George Stephanopoulos, about Mr. Trump’s comments and whether he would support Mr. Trump in 2024, saying that he believed Republicans would have a large field of candidates and that he wanted to focus on making the most of the party’s new House majority.

When Mr. Stephanopoulos pressed him a fourth time, Mr. Joyce said, “I will support whoever the Republican nominee is.” With visible discomfort, Mr. Joyce then sought to defend that commitment after Mr. Stephanopoulos asked incredulously, “You can’t come out against someone who’s for suspending the Constitution?”

“Well, he says a lot of things, but that doesn’t mean that it’s ever going to happen,” Mr. Joyce said. But Mr. Trump has followed through on many things that other Republicans insisted he did not really mean, including his effort to block the certification of Mr. Biden’s victory, which culminated in Trump supporters’ storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

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1 hour ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Extremely unlikely, IMO.  He has the nomination in the bag.

You should get the leadership of the republican party and people like IceResistance on the same train you are on.  Then the dam might actually break.

But far more remained silent, including Kevin McCarthy, the House minority leader who hopes to become speaker when Republicans take control of the chamber in January, and who made a point last month of declaring that Republicans would read the Constitution aloud on the House floor on their first day in charge. Two press representatives for Mr. McCarthy did not immediately respond to requests for comment on Sunday.

In an interview on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday morning, Representative David Joyce of Ohio illustrated Republicans’ unyielding loyalty to Mr. Trump.

Mr. Joyce dodged three questions from the anchor, George Stephanopoulos, about Mr. Trump’s comments and whether he would support Mr. Trump in 2024, saying that he believed Republicans would have a large field of candidates and that he wanted to focus on making the most of the party’s new House majority.

When Mr. Stephanopoulos pressed him a fourth time, Mr. Joyce said, “I will support whoever the Republican nominee is.” With visible discomfort, Mr. Joyce then sought to defend that commitment after Mr. Stephanopoulos asked incredulously, “You can’t come out against someone who’s for suspending the Constitution?”

“Well, he says a lot of things, but that doesn’t mean that it’s ever going to happen,” Mr. Joyce said. But Mr. Trump has followed through on many things that other Republicans insisted he did not really mean, including his effort to block the certification of Mr. Biden’s victory, which culminated in Trump supporters’ storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

The problem is they can’t win a primary without Trump and can’t win a general with him.

The solution is to dump Trump and wait for it to blow over. The bad news for Republicans is that it won’t blow over in time to win in 2024, which is why they won’t dump Trump now. If they dump Trump after losing in 2024, there would probably be enough time for it to blow over by 2028, so I would expect them to dump him then.

At least that’s my current best guess.

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4 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

The problem is they can’t win a primary without Trump and can’t win a general with him.

The solution is to dump Trump and wait for it to blow over. The bad news for Republicans is that it won’t blow over in time to win in 2024, which is why they won’t dump Trump now. If they dump Trump after losing in 2024, there would probably be enough time for it to blow over by 2028, so I would expect them to dump him then.

At least that’s my current best guess.

They could let him run in 2024 so he can use the 2nd term, after that. DeSantis will run in 2028. 

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5 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

The problem is they can’t win a primary without Trump and can’t win a general with him.

The solution is to dump Trump and wait for it to blow over. The bad news for Republicans is that it won’t blow over in time to win in 2024, which is why they won’t dump Trump now. If they dump Trump after losing in 2024, there would probably be enough time for it to blow over by 2028, so I would expect them to dump him then.

At least that’s my current best guess.

I don’t know about that. The “irksome”factor is pretty high with Biden.  Independents are not impressed and as the Biden/China connection gains notoriety in the news, and hearings begin potentially, there’s a good chance Trump may jump in.   If he doesn’t, DeSantis will.  

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I keep hoping a sane, practical Independent will gain attention. Preferably one with a sound background in economics.   
 

I can dream. 😴💤

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We’ll, I wasn’t going to compare but I can dip back into history… 

Nixon (yikes)

Johnson (eww) 

Bush (take your pick )

Clinton (creep-out)

The US can really crank out some real numbers in the White House.  They always say cream and crap rise to the top  if your aren’t the former, look in the mirror!! 😂

 

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Trump has gone batshit crazy.  I have no idea WTF is going on with him.  Even Dan Bongino had to call him out today.

Maybe he just snapped from the absolute endless attacks on him over the past 6 years.  Whatever the case I think he torpedoed his chances in 2024.  That is certainly a good thing.  My biggest fear is he might go third party which would be horrible for the Republican candidate.

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3 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

Trump has gone batshit crazy.  I have no idea WTF is going on with him.  Even Dan Bongino had to call him out today.

Maybe he just snapped from the absolute endless attacks on him over the past 6 years.  Whatever the case I think he torpedoed his chances in 2024.  That is certainly a good thing.  My biggest fear is he might go third party which would be horrible for the Republican candidate.

You keep saying this.  The only thing that has changed is you.  Trump is the same ^%*&(^(%(*%^&^(*&)(*&*(^&(^ he has always been.

And the best part is you will vote for him if he is the nominee.  So tell me:  what's his incentive to pretend to be sane?  He has his base in the bag, and people like you will vote for him as well.

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On 12/3/2022 at 7:14 PM, hawkstwelve said:

Apparently Trump is openly calling for the complete disregard of the Constitution. 

He's so completely lost it that I think he ends up burying himself before we even hit next summer, which is when most presidential contenders decide to throw their hat in the ring. That is if the legal battles don't get him first... 🤞

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This isn’t anything out of the ordinary for him nor is it any sort of game-changer.

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What I don’t like is there have been signals of election tampering on many levels from local to the top.  
Perhaps the entire manner in which elections are conducted needs to be reassessed and cleaned up.  
I’ve heard tampering talk for a decade or more.   Restoring confidence in elections is pretty important.  Maybe it’s time. 

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37 minutes ago, Andie said:

What I don’t like is there have been signals of election tampering on many levels from local to the top.  
Perhaps the entire manner in which elections are conducted needs to be reassessed and cleaned up.  
I’ve heard tampering talk for a decade or more.   Restoring confidence in elections is pretty important.  Maybe it’s time. 

[Sigh] Come on..... Talk about beating a dead horse that doesn't even exist.

All I can say is that you should read better material.  The power of trump's influence of your party and the media you consume is stronger than you even realize.

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2 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

[Sigh] Come on..... Talk about beating a dead horse that doesn't even exist.

All I can say is that you should read better material.  The power of trump's influence of your party and the media you consume is stronger than you even realize.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

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I don't subscribe to the widespread election fraud stuff, but states really need to be more efficient with vote counting.  It shouldn't take so many days and it helps to feed into a perception of shenanigans.  Whatever the state of Florida does should be the model.  They count quickly.

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9 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

I don't subscribe to the widespread election fraud stuff, but states really need to be more efficient with vote counting.  It shouldn't take so many days and it helps to feed into a perception of shenanigans.  Whatever the state of Florida does should be the model.  They count quickly.

It's one of the few things that is explicitly defined as a state matter in the Constitution.  There are states controlled by R's and D's making laws that make counting take longer.  Some make sense.  Some are weird.

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47 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

I don't subscribe to the widespread election fraud stuff, but states really need to be more efficient with vote counting.  It shouldn't take so many days and it helps to feed into a perception of shenanigans.  Whatever the state of Florida does should be the model.  They count quickly.

And the Oklahoma standard for voter rules! As a precaution against voter fraud. I could not vote because my State ID is missing. 

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Runoff counting has begun, Warnock is ahead as usual right now, but Walker has already won most of Southern Georgia, he must win some city counties for him to have a chance to win the Georgia senate. 

 

The current vote is 52-48 and getting tighter. 

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Good news... we are spared the embarrassment of Walker being a US senator.

Big red wave huh?    Democrats gained a senate seat.   Nice job!   

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