CentralNebWeather Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 12Z GFS splits the storm next week as it comes across then dry slots Nebraska as more wind comes through. This is just unbelievable at this point. If things aren't bad enough now, it may only get worse next week as rains don't come. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 The 12z GEFS has a Mean Supercell Composite of a 10 in Southern & Central Kansas 2 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 The latest GFS, GDPS, and UK all show little precip out of this entire system through much of Nebraska and Iowa. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 Sunday has a Marginal risk, this does need to be watched because if one of the storms manages to break the cap, we could have some isolated supercellular action from Texas to Oklahoma & to Missouri Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 Found this sounding over town (Tecumseh) for Next Tuesday on the 18z GFS & I'm going to get the storm shelter ready in a few days. Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Goodness gracious, this sounding on the 18z GFS over OKC on Next Tuesday is looking very dangerous for Powerful Supercells, parts of Kansas has slightly more favorable Shear, the offset is the LCL is much weaker, but this sounding over OKC does not have that issue. O_O 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Geeze, the 0z Euro is about as bad as it could get for @CentralNebWeather and OMA/LNK peeps...literally, a miss for those areas through THU... On the flip side of things, as a wx enthusiast, this system is going to be a Beast of a Blizzard tracking across the Upper MW/GL's for days on end as a blocked up pattern takes hold through Easter Weekend...parts of the N Rockies into the Black Hills was my original target area, but the shift NW is taking place as this system just bombs out somewhere over N MN. The 2nd cutter is showing up on the 0z EPS and it has a wintry component to it....#EasterSnowBunny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 I'm under a Enhanced risk for Tuesday Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 @AndieSlight risk with HATCHED area is over DFW & Texarkana for Next Monday 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 SPC D4 still a question if storms will be able to fire in the KC area. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Day 5 Valid 121200Z - 171200Z ...DISCUSSION... A substantial, multi-day severe thunderstorm event will continue on Day 4/Tuesday and Day 5/Wednesday across much of the central CONUS. Large to very large hail, damaging winds, and tornadoes should occur. ...Day 4/Tuesday: Southern/Central Plains into the Mid Mississippi Valley/Midwest... Medium-range guidance is coming into somewhat better agreement regarding the eastward progression of an upper trough across the western/central CONUS on Day 4/Tuesday. A deep surface cyclone is forecast to eject eastward across the central Plains through the day, reaching the vicinity of the Upper Midwest Tuesday night. Low-level moisture will advect rapidly northward ahead of the surface low and east of a dryline across parts of the southern/central Plains into the mid MS Valley. Rather steep mid-level lapse rates are expected to be present over much of the warm sector, which should aid in the development of moderate to strong instability east of the dryline by Tuesday afternoon. As mid-level height falls and related ascent preceding the upper trough overspread the southern/central Plains, convection will likely initiate along the dryline from eastern KS to central TX. Even with deep-layer shear forecast to remain fairly modest through the day, the large reservoir of buoyancy will likely support robust severe thunderstorms. Large to very large hail should occur with initially discrete convection, and damaging winds will be a concern as convection grows upscale Tuesday night. Greater tornado potential may focus across the central Plains into parts of the Midwest/mid MS Valley, where better low-level shear should be present owing to a strengthening low-level jet. A 30% severe area has been included where confidence is greatest in supercells occurring Tuesday afternoon/evening. ...Day 5/Wednesday: Southern/Central Plains into the Mississippi Valley/Midwest and Southeast... Convection still posing some severe threat may be ongoing Wednesday morning across parts of the lower MS Valley and Mid-South in a strong low-level warm advection regime. As the large-scale upper trough ejects eastward over the central CONUS, low-level moisture should continue to stream northward across the lower/mid MS Valley into parts of the Midwest. There are some differences in model guidance regarding the evolution of this upper trough on Day 5/Wednesday. Still, it appears likely that scattered to numerous severe thunderstorms will develop across the broad warm sector and to the east of a cold front/dryline through much of the day. Strong deep-layer shear should combine with adequate instability to support updraft organization Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: Starting to look like I will be too far SE for snow and too far NW for thunderstorms. Drats! There seems to be a consistent theme for the past few storms in this area - close but no cigar. You're literally getting dry slotted, it gets really old really quickly after repeated Dry Slotting. Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 47 minutes ago, Iceresistance said: @AndieSlight risk with HATCHED area is over DFW & Texarkana for Next Monday Well, I’m glad we’re dodging the main event. We’ll take the rain to avoid fire threats and drought however. 1 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Sitting on the western edge of the D4 (Tue) severe enhanced area. Precip probabilities are 20% Tuesday and 40% Tuesday night in MBY so nothing certain here. Just keeping an eye on things for now. 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 the 12z NAM has isolated development in Central Oklahoma Tomorrow afternoon, could be a sneaky event. 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Looks like the Euro caved to the GFS (again)…. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, OmahaSnowFan said: Looks like the Euro caved to the GFS (again)…. As has been the case all season. The models are an utter disaster for us. I would think more devastating fires are in our future. NWS Hastings disco was pretty pessimistic this morning about lack of rain and more wind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 The GFS still refuses to slow down the midweek front. It has the front moving through first thing Wednesday morning, while other models are more toward evening. That will greatly impact the high temp. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Iceresistance said: You're literally getting dry slotted, it gets really old really quickly after repeated Dry Slotting. Might become our new nickname, the dry slot state. I’ve watched it for going on 6 months now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 12z GFS show 2 storms next week. Both take about the same path with the Nebraska dry slot, but lots of wind. Frustrating and sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 12z RGEM has CAPE over 4000 in Oklahoma, & storms do indeed blow up in Western Oklahoma, mostly along US-81 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Slight risk now in place for Missouri tomorrow, appears that the cap is weaker there. Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Boy this is going to be quite the storm for North Dakota, as been the case all winter. URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Bismarck ND 231 PM CDT Sat Apr 9 2022 NDZ002>005-009>013-017>023-031>036-040>046-100345- /O.NEW.KBIS.WS.A.0003.220412T1200Z-220414T1200Z/ Burke-Renville-Bottineau-Rolette-Williams-Mountrail-Ward-McHenry- Pierce-McKenzie-Dunn-Mercer-Oliver-McLean-Sheridan-Wells-Golden Valley-Billings-Stark-Morton-Burleigh-Kidder-Slope-Hettinger- Grant-Bowman-Adams-Sioux-Emmons- Including the cities of Parshall, Hettinger, Fessenden, Wilton, Marmarth, Glenburn, Dunseith, Sherwood, Killdeer, Tappen, Dickinson, Minot, Mcclusky, Mandan, Beach, New Leipzig, New Town, Watford City, Columbus, Solen, Shell Valley, Hazen, New England, Underwood, St. John, Bismarck, Portal, Lignite, Harvey, Beulah, Rugby, Center, Bowman, Rolette, Selfridge, Drake, Towner, Velva, Linton, Mohall, Garrison, Medora, Washburn, Bowbells, Carson, Elgin, Fort Yates, Halliday, Goodrich, Steele, Rolla, Mott, Strasburg, Powers Lake, Stanley, Williston, Turtle Lake, and Bottineau 231 PM CDT Sat Apr 9 2022 /131 PM MDT Sat Apr 9 2022/ ...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING... * WHAT...Heavy snow and blizzard conditions possible. Total snow accumulations between 10 and 20 inches possible. Winds could gust as high as 40 mph. * WHERE...Most of western and central North Dakota. * WHEN...From Tuesday morning through Thursday morning. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Iceresistance said: Slight risk now in place for Missouri tomorrow, appears that the cap is weaker there. Just not alot of moisture available for mby with this storm. I think the Ohio Valley will be where the action is early next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, gabel23 said: Boy this is going to be quite the storm for North Dakota, as been the case all winter. URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Bismarck ND 231 PM CDT Sat Apr 9 2022 NDZ002>005-009>013-017>023-031>036-040>046-100345- /O.NEW.KBIS.WS.A.0003.220412T1200Z-220414T1200Z/ Burke-Renville-Bottineau-Rolette-Williams-Mountrail-Ward-McHenry- Pierce-McKenzie-Dunn-Mercer-Oliver-McLean-Sheridan-Wells-Golden Valley-Billings-Stark-Morton-Burleigh-Kidder-Slope-Hettinger- Grant-Bowman-Adams-Sioux-Emmons- Including the cities of Parshall, Hettinger, Fessenden, Wilton, Marmarth, Glenburn, Dunseith, Sherwood, Killdeer, Tappen, Dickinson, Minot, Mcclusky, Mandan, Beach, New Leipzig, New Town, Watford City, Columbus, Solen, Shell Valley, Hazen, New England, Underwood, St. John, Bismarck, Portal, Lignite, Harvey, Beulah, Rugby, Center, Bowman, Rolette, Selfridge, Drake, Towner, Velva, Linton, Mohall, Garrison, Medora, Washburn, Bowbells, Carson, Elgin, Fort Yates, Halliday, Goodrich, Steele, Rolla, Mott, Strasburg, Powers Lake, Stanley, Williston, Turtle Lake, and Bottineau 231 PM CDT Sat Apr 9 2022 /131 PM MDT Sat Apr 9 2022/ ...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING... * WHAT...Heavy snow and blizzard conditions possible. Total snow accumulations between 10 and 20 inches possible. Winds could gust as high as 40 mph. * WHERE...Most of western and central North Dakota. * WHEN...From Tuesday morning through Thursday morning. What are the chances that The Weather Channel sends Reynolds Wolf or even Cantore to Dickinson, ND? Like 1 in a million. 1 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 This guy is a pretty well known name in the chasing field. Used to be a forecaster for DDC too, and works in the private field now I believe. He’s normally very pragmatic and realistic when it comes to setups, so this is the strongest wording I’ve ever seen from him. I’m planning on chasing Tuesday probably down near/east of Wichita 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, OmahaSnowFan said: This guy is a pretty well known name in the chasing field. Used to be a forecaster for DDC too, and works in the private field now I believe. He’s normally very pragmatic and realistic when it comes to setups, so this is the strongest wording I’ve ever seen from him. I’m planning on chasing Tuesday probably down near/east of Wichita Sounds like fun. Don't get blown away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, OmahaSnowFan said: This guy is a pretty well known name in the chasing field. Used to be a forecaster for DDC too, and works in the private field now I believe. He’s normally very pragmatic and realistic when it comes to setups, so this is the strongest wording I’ve ever seen from him. I’m planning on chasing Tuesday probably down near/east of Wichita I don't know him very well, what does this usually mean? A potentially dangerous outbreak that even a strong cap would fail from keeping the storms from going? EDIT: Apparently, he's not very trustworthy. Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Iceresistance said: I don't know him very well, what does this usually mean? A potentially dangerous outbreak that even a strong cap would fail from keeping the storms from going? EDIT: Apparently, he's not very trustworthy. There’s actually a fairly decent sized area with minimal cap. And a cap under 50 can still be broken with the right atmospheric conditions which is what he’s saying above. Plus a little cap keeps storms more isolated and discrete. I have no idea what you’re referring to in your edit nor do I know him personally. I’m only referring to the storm chasing forum I’m been on with him and other chasers for 10+ years so I’ve seen how he forecasts setups and that is normally not one with the bias of everything is huge and going to be the biggest outbreak ever like a lot of other chasers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Grid’s been raised to 81 for a high on Tuesday 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 0z Euro flashing a Taste of Summer for the heartland on Tuesday... All a while, a Blizzard will more than likely be taking aim for the Upper MW just hours later...a bit of a shift Etowards N MN with the heaviest snows... @Beltrami Island Go Big or Go Home say the 0z Euro?? Meantime, the 0z GFS/Canadien say ND is the epicenter... Ya, looking deeper into the data, the 0z EPS certainly is shifting E with the heaviest snows in the last 24 hours...could be the Big Dog of the season for the Northwoods of MN... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 This is one of the largest Enhanced risks I've seen in a long time 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 The Euro continues to trend toward the GFS for us, which means lessening chance of storms Tuesday and an earlier frontal passage Wednesday. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 And my Storm Shelter is ready 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Local forecast for Tuesday, highs of 83-90 degrees with a south wind gusting over 40 MPH as the dry slot once again rears its ugly head. More fires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Top severe weather analog for this Tuesday 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, OmahaSnowFan said: Top severe weather analog for this Tuesday 1 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Local met from KFOR for Next Tuesday 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 The GFS continues to own the Euro wrt this system. For days the GFS has not budged an inch with its prediction of a sunrise frontal passage Wednesday, so no warm day or storms. Every run of the Euro, including the latest, gets closer to the GFS. The latest run has the frontal passage around noon, so the 70º day is now gone. Also, the latest Euro has the storms barely catching Cedar Rapids before they move east of the area. This morning's UK is even closer to the GFS and has no storms in eastern Iowa. 3 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: The GFS continues to own the Euro wrt this system. For days the GFS has not budged an inch with its prediction of a sunrise frontal passage Wednesday, so no warm day or storms. Every run of the Euro, including the latest, gets closer to the GFS. The latest run has the frontal passage around noon, so the 70º day is now gone. Also, the latest Euro has the storms barely catching Cedar Rapids before they move east of the area. This morning's UK is even closer to the GFS and has no storms in eastern Iowa. Did you somehow forget that there's an Enhanced risk just outside of Des Moines for Tuesday's system? Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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