Deweydog Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 How did Eugene manage to get this cold in 2013? Even with snow cover and arctic air, a 19/-10 day is insane. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, Doiinko said: How did Eugene manage to get this cold in 2013? Even with snow cover and arctic air, a 19/-10 day is insane. Salem AND Eugene hit -12 on the same date in 1972... It can happen under the right conditions. 2 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: Never been? Surprising! Haven't you lived in WA about 20 years? Andrew's negative views on impoverished central WA has kept us away. In fact... when we drive to MN every summer we intentionally go south and then east so we don't ever have to look at the horrors of Ellensburg and Moses Lake. I heard that Moses Lake is in an ugly basin with lots of agriculture and is run down and not wealthy. I never want to see that. 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 29 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Here is another fun fact: April 1-May 15, 2021: Driest such period on record at PDX April 1-May 15, 2022: Wettest such period on record at PDX Law of averages! 2 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Score for one for the GFS. Last weekend Jim was talking about a potentially nice weekend being shown on the GFS while the ECMWF was showing a washout. And now the ECMWF shows exactly what the GFS was showing... dry and mostly sunny both days. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 AAM integral peaks this week. Multiweek decline begins following next CCKW passage across the IPWP. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, TT-SEA said: Score for one for the GFS. Last weekend Jim was talking about a potentially nice weekend being shown on the GFS while the ECMWF was showing a washout. And now the ECMWF shows exactly what the GFS was showing... dry and mostly sunny both days. The GFS was projecting a deep trough here with a cat3 hurricane slamming New Orleans. It was nowhere close with the large scale pattern. A complete and utter failure. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, TacomaWaWx said: Good lord sometimes you can’t even talk about anything on here sometimes. Was much wetter here than at sea tac…was talking about my location. sorry for being an ass Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 On the way to class this morning there was windswept drizzle and visible sheets of it coming down. Now one of the most beautiful May days we get around here, sunny and damp and extremely luminous. Bipolar weather is back after a couple days of May normalcy! 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Phil said: The GFS was projecting a deep trough here with a cat3 hurricane slamming New Orleans. It was nowhere close with the large scale pattern. A complete and utter failure. Maybe not... but it did much better with the pattern in the West. The GFS properly showed the late week trough digging more which held off the return to zonal flow. The ECMWF went right into zonal flow by Saturday. It has since come around to the GFS idea. Score one for America. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Town Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 The forum is as lively as the weather this morning. Up to 57 with some sun breaks here. Pretty windy earlier but settling down a bit now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, TT-SEA said: Maybe not... but it did much better with the pattern in the West. The GFS properly showed the late week trough digging more which held off the return to zonal flow. The ECMWF went right into zonal flow by Saturday. It has since come around to the GFS idea. Score one for America. Except the D5 z500 skill scores are higher for the ECMWF. You’re going to be sorely disappointed if you’re placing your eggs in the GFS basket. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, Deweydog said: Power is out here. Had to pick up the kids from daycare. Apparently they have to be home when there is no electricity. Safer that way. 🫤 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: Power is out here. Had to pick up the kids from daycare. Apparently they have to be home when there is no electricity. Safer that way. 🫤 Minus 1 minute outages due to lightning strikes/etc we haven’t lost power since the 2012 derecho. All it took was some modest tree trimming and basic maintenance from PEPCO. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, T-Town said: The forum is as lively as the weather this morning. Up to 57 with some sun breaks here. Pretty windy earlier but settling down a bit now. Andrew needs some push back. He has been mocking cities in central WA for years because I made the mistake of going there and saying nice things. What is the point of that? He needs to announce every month that Pasco and Moses Lake and other places in central WA are run down and dumpy? He went on a rant on Easter Sunday about Moses Lake and Ritzville. And a little bit earlier when Randy told us about a house his family had on Moses Lake and how he wished they had kept it. Its a real hot button for Andrew. 1 1 3 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Phil said: Except the D5 z500 skill scores are higher for the ECMWF. You’re going to be sorely disappointed if you’re placing your eggs in the GFS basket. I have literally no expectations about the GFS performance. I just wanted to mention a small victory for the GFS which worked out well in our favor this coming weekend. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Phil said: Minus 1 minute outages due to lightning strikes/etc we haven’t lost power since the 2012 derecho. All it took was some modest tree trimming and basic maintenance from PEPCO. That will never happen here. Trees fall down when it’s windy. And most of this area is on bedrock, and underground utilities are kind of a challenge sometimes. I wouldn’t hold my breath for underground power anytime soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Out of staters often ask what there is to see in Oregon having only been to Portland and Corvallis. The go to response is usually Bend. I like to recommend Hood River area and southern Oregon / Rogue River country as well because everyone has heard about Bend a million times. I’ll make sure to recommend the wonderful Tri-Cities of Kennewick, Pasco, and Richland as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Paine Field in Everett had a 44 mph gust this morning at 10 AM. Pretty impressive for a warm season storm system. 2 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 12Z ECMWF is pretty decent for next week as well... holds of the rain until Wednesday now and then its dry again on Thursday. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, bainbridgekid said: Paine Field in Everett had a 44 mph gust this morning at 10 AM. Pretty impressive for a warm season storm system. SEA has been gusting to almost 40 mph as well. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, bainbridgekid said: Paine Field in Everett had a 44 mph gust this morning at 10 AM. Pretty impressive for a warm season storm system. In terms of warm season windstorms, nothing surpasses 8/29/15! Yes, the summer of 2015, of all seasons. 2 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 The few times I’ve been to Bend were all riddled with horribly dense smoke lol 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: That will never happen here. Trees fall down when it’s windy. And most of this area is on bedrock, and underground utilities are kind of a challenge sometimes. I wouldn’t hold my breath for underground power anytime soon. Most of the streets look like this here. Power lines underneath tall overhanging firs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: The few times I’ve been to Bend were all riddled with horribly dense smoke lol We usually go in late June early July and rarely run into smoke problems then. Right after the Sisters Rodeo and then we leave town just in time for St Paul Rodeo. Gotta wait until Pendleton... oh wait I'm going back to school by the time Pendleton comes around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 IMO bend is best in spring and autumn. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: In terms of warm season windstorms, nothing surpasses 8/29/15! Yes, the summer of 2015, of all seasons. That storm was insane. Just completely out of the realm of what I even thought possible in August here. Many places broke their May-September wind records by well over 10 degrees. The fact such a strong storm came right at the end of (at the time) the hottest Summer on record made it even more amazing. 2 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: IMO bend is best in spring and autumn. Spring is the only season I haven't been to Bend in. About to get that monkey off my back this weekend! I've already gushed enough about this... but if you get lucky and come in winter during a strong winter storm, like we did in December 2016 and December 2021, nothing beats that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Doiinko said: How did Eugene manage to get this cold in 2013? Even with snow cover and arctic air, a 19/-10 day is insane. Everything happens just right to maximize nighttime cooling. No nearby large bodies of water to help moderate temperature. Regarding (2), that -10 is colder than SEA, BLI, or YVR have ever recorded. 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: The few times I’ve been to Bend were all riddled with horribly dense smoke lol Me too, but it's still a nice place. I want to see it without the smoke though lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Everything happens just right to maximize nighttime cooling. No nearby large bodies of water to help moderate temperature. Regarding (2), that -10 is colder than SEA, BLI, or YVR have ever recorded. That makes sense, PDX hasn't been that cold ever either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Also, apparently PDX recorded 2 inches of precip on 1-19-1950 and only 4 inches of snow, despite staying below freezing the whole time? I'm probably looking at the wrong place though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Doiinko said: That makes sense, PDX hasn't been that cold ever either. PDX’s proximity to the Gorge tends hurt it when it comes to extreme minima. It is usually at least breezy there during outflow events. Prevents inversions from forming and amplifying the effects of the cold at the surface. 2 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: Most of the streets look like this here. Power lines underneath tall overhanging firs Yeah I can imagine those skinny softwoods would sway a lot during windstorms. Where my family lives in Everett there are houses surrounded by 150ft conifers with trunks merely 2ft in diameter. Astonishing they’re even upright. No way trees like that would survive a derecho. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doiinko said: Also, apparently PDX recorded 2 inches of precip on 1-19-1950 and only 4 inches of snow, despite staying below freezing the whole time? I'm probably looking at the wrong place though. Sleet or freezing rain would be a good guess. Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Sleet or freezing rain would be a good guess. Oops, I completely forgot about that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doiinko said: Also, apparently PDX recorded 2 inches of precip on 1-19-1950 and only 4 inches of snow, despite staying below freezing the whole time? I'm probably looking at the wrong place though. That storm was insane, but it was largely sleet that transitioned to 1-2" freezing rain, with another half inch or so falling on the 20th. Of course it was coming on top of a 10"+ snowpack so the trees were already weighed down. Probably the most devastating ice storm on record for Portland-Vancouver and the western gorge, along with February 1-2, 1916. The power was out in Clark County for about a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Phil said: Yeah I can imagine those skinny softwoods would sway a lot during windstorms. Where my family lives in Everett there are houses surrounded by 150ft conifers with trunks merely 2ft in diameter. Astonishing they’re even upright. No way trees like that would survive a derecho. It is only possible in a forested areas, where all the trees act collectively to keep the strongest winds well aloft. No isolated tree that spindly could stay standing for long. This also explains the blowdown phenomenon: once the wind gets strong enough to make a few trees fail in one locality, a huge tract of forest can get laid low. It’s a positive-feedback loop: the more trees that come down, the more the wind can get into the forest and take more trees down. 2 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 January 1950 had a few warm ups down here. Salem had a 55/44 on the 21st. https://climate.usu.edu/mapServer/reports/e15daily.php?stn=USW00024232&year=1950&month=1&unit=EN&network=direct:ghcn&sidebar=0 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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