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13 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Summer hasn't even begun yet and people are already acting like it's over.🙄 Most signs point to a dry July-Sept and I'm sure this Spring from hell (for some) will be long forgotten by mid July. 

It's a testament to how accustomed folks have become around here to blazing sunshine throughout the entirety of May and acting like that's the norm.

It's obviously been wetter and cloudier than usual... But May historically is just not a summer weather month. And neither is the first half of June. Grouping them with July and August just doesn't have a climo basis. 

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7 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

It's a testament to how accustomed folks have become around here to blazing sunshine throughout the entirety of May and acting like that's the norm.

It's obviously been wetter and cloudier than usual... But May historically is just not a summer weather month. And neither is the first half of June. Grouping them with July and August just doesn't have a climo basis. 

This is a complete exaggeration the other way.    I don't think anyone expects blazing sunshine through all of May.    7 of our 10 wettest Mays in Seattle have happened since 2000.   You are pretending every May for the last 20 years has been nothing but blazing sunshine and now we are finally having a typical May.    Its stupid.   The last 2 months have been quite unusual in terms of cold and persistent rain.   That is just a climo fact.     Even May in years like 1955, 1983, and 1993 had periods of sunny, warm weather.    Its very common.   No such luck this year... hence the negative perceptions.  

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

This is a complete exaggeration the other way.    I don't think anyone expects blazing sunshine through all of May.    7 of our 10 wettest Mays in Seattle have happened since 2000.   You are pretending every May for the last 20 years has been nothing but blazing sunshine and now we are finally having a typical May.    Its stupid.   The last 2 months have been quite unusual in terms of cold and persistent rain.   That is just a climo fact.     Even May in years like 1955, 1983, and 1993 had periods of sunny, warm weather.    Its very common.   No such luck this year... hence the negative perceptions.  

Down here in Portland this was our first wet May since 2013, so I think we were due here. In Seattle though it probably is different. In Portland we had a good number of dry days in the second half of the month, but I don't think you guys had as many up North.

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And as much as I like to point out that we were simply dew for a wet/cool spring, we are probably equally dew for a dry and ridgy September/October. 

The last really dry September under 1" of precip for PDX was 2014. We've had some warm Septembers since but none of them were wall to wall summer like as they sometimes can be.

2015 was the last time we had a really warm October. 2020 did have a ridgier September and October but September did still end up wet somehow and then the October warmth really wasn't too crazy at all. 

Makes sense that this year will probably go in that direction.

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1 minute ago, Doiinko said:

Down here in Portland this was our first wet May since 2013, so I think we were due here. In Seattle though it probably is different. In Portland we had a good number of dry days in the second half of the month, but I don't think you guys had as many up North.

Its been more reasonable for the last 7-10 days overall... but we are still missing that very common 4-6 day sunny stretch which happens almost every year in May. 

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2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

And as much as I like to point out that we were simply dew for a wet/cool spring, we are probably equally dew for a dry and ridgy September/October. 

The last really dry September under 1" of precip for PDX was 2014. We've had some warm Septembers since but none of them were wall to wall summer like as they sometimes can be.

2015 was the last time we had a really warm October. 2020 did have a ridgier September and October but September did still end up wet somehow and then the October warmth really wasn't too crazy at all. 

Makes sense that this year will probably go in that direction.

Fall of 2012 is calling... I could see persistent ridging like we had that year. Not sure the dam breaks in mid-October as it did that year though. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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I should also point out June 1952 and 1954 were very wet (And 1953 was about average, but the coldest June in the modern era), so it's not like the 50s were full of spectacular June's. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

This is a complete exaggeration the other way.    I don't think anyone expects blazing sunshine through all of May.    7 of our 10 wettest Mays in Seattle have happened since 2000.   You are pretending every May for the last 20 years has been nothing but blazing sunshine and now we are finally having a typical May.    Its stupid.   The last 2 months have been quite unusual in terms of cold and persistent rain.   That is just a climo fact.     Even May in years like 1955, 1983, and 1993 had periods of sunny, warm weather.    Its very common.   No such luck this year... hence the negative perceptions.  

Plenty of really wet and overwhelmingly cloudy or cool Mays around here historically, Tim. Look at Mays like 2011, 2010, 2005, 1998,  1996, 1991, 1984, 1978, 1977, 1974, 1968, 1964, 1962, 1960, 1953. Some of those years maybe had a couple of token warmer days thrown in but in the grand scheme of things the default weather was virtually the same as what it has been this year. It's a pretty common way that May can go in the PNW.

On the flip side.... 2021, 2018, and 2015 all unquestionably had historically dry and sunny stretches in mid to late spring recently and seemed to have skewed some expectations. It is what it is.

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9 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Fall of 2012 is calling... I could see persistent ridging like we had that year. Not sure the dam breaks in mid-October as it did that year though. 

I think we'll see an unusual ridgy stretch at least into October.

Also feeling a significant November cold spell this year. Feels like we are ready.

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9 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Plenty of really wet and overwhelmingly cloudy or cool Mays around here historically, Tim. Look at Mays like 2011, 2010, 2005, 1998,  1996, 1991, 1984, 1978, 1977, 1974, 1968, 1964, 1962, 1960, 1953. Some of those years maybe had a couple of token warmer days thrown in but in the grand scheme of things the default weather was virtually the same as what it has been this year. It's a pretty common way that May can go in the PNW.

On the flip side.... 2021, 2018, and 2015 all unquestionably had historically dry and sunny stretches in mid to late spring recently and seemed to have skewed some expectations. It is what it is.

Down here at least I remember 2011 being cloudier than this spring though April and May were not quite as wet. But even when it wasn't raining we had strong onshore flow and clouds. Also that March was a lot wetter and cloudier than this one. 

As chilly as this spring has been, it isn't even close to 2011 either. That spring featured our 2nd coldest April on record and coldest May by a wide margin. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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12 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Plenty of really wet and overwhelmingly cloudy or cool Mays around here historically, Tim. Look at Mays like 2011, 2010, 2005, 1998,  1996, 1991, 1984, 1978, 1977, 1974, 1968, 1964, 1962, 1960, 1953. Some of those years maybe had a couple of token warmer days thrown in but in the grand scheme of things the default weather was virtually the same as what it has been this year. It's a pretty common way that May can go in the PNW.

On the flip side.... 2021, 2018, and 2015 all unquestionably had historically dry and sunny stretches in mid to late spring recently and seemed to have skewed some expectations. It is what it is.

In recent memory from your list in 2010 and 2011 in the Snoqualmie Valley... there was a 10-day stretch with no rain in May 2010 and 14 totally dry days in May 2011.      We are aiming for 4 or 5 dry days this month.    Those nice stretches are often buried in cold/wet stats for the month overall but make a big difference in terms of perception.     Even in 1964 we managed 81 degrees on Memorial Day and 87 degrees the next day.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

In recent memory from your list in 2010 and 2011 in the Snoqualmie Valley... there was a 10-day stretch with no rain in May 2010 and 14 totally dry days in May 2011.      We are aiming for 4 or 5 dry days this month.    Those nice stretches are often buried in cold/wet stats for the month overall but make a big difference in terms of perception.     Even in 1964 we managed 81 degrees on Memorial Day.   

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Looking at the PRISM data this April was the 7th coldest here since 1895 and 5th wettest. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Pretty nice pattern being shown on the 12Z ECMWF from Tuesday - Saturday.    It looks warm and increasingly humid with multiple chances for convection but with plenty of sun mixed in as well.   

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Just now, Deweydog said:

Where’d you guyz end up going to escape nature’s wrath?

You missed the riveting discussion last night?  😃 

We decided to stay home... the east side did not look significantly better.   Apparently half the forum up here went east though.   Not a bad day here today and Monday might be decent.  And it is nice knowing there will be summery days coming up this week so we don't have to rush to find nice weather before the window closes.

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12 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Down here at least I remember 2011 being cloudier than this spring though April and May were not quite as wet. But even when it wasn't raining we had strong onshore flow and clouds. Also that March was a lot wetter and cloudier than this one. 

As chilly as this spring has been, it isn't even close to 2011 either. That spring featured our 2nd coldest April on record and coldest May by a wide margin. 

That's a good point about March this year. It was rather dry with a sunny/warm period towards the end. Many years don't get that and 2011 definitely didn't.

I really don't remember any sun in May 1998 either. We had the heatwave at the end of April and then the thunderstorm outbreak on the 1st and from there it felt like wall to wall clouds and rain for weeks. The whole late 1990s period from 1995 onwards was generally much cloudier and wetter than the last 4-5 years have been. No comparison.

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7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

You missed the riveting discussion last night?  😃 

We decided to stay home... the east side did not look significantly better.   Apparently half the forum up here went east though.   Not a bad day here today and Monday might be decent.  And it is nice knowing there will be summery days coming up this week so we don't have to rush to find nice weather before the window closes.

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12 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

In recent memory from your list in 2010 and 2011 in the Snoqualmie Valley... there was a 10-day stretch with no rain in May 2010 and 14 totally dry days in May 2011.      We are aiming for 4 or 5 dry days this month.    Those nice stretches are often buried in cold/wet stats for the month overall but make a big difference in terms of perception.     Even in 1964 we managed 81 degrees on Memorial Day and 87 degrees the next day.

A couple of token warm days really don't make that big of a difference in what the overall weather patterns are, and we'll probably have some more of those pretty soon anyways.

May 2010 felt very similar to this month here. A minor dry stretch but overwhelmingly cloudy with a lot of rain (mostly at the end of the month). I definitely seem to recall 2010 Tim agreeing. 

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3 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

That's a good point about March this year. It was rather dry with a sunny/warm period towards the end. Many years don't get that and 2011 definitely didn't.

I really don't remember any sun in May 1998 either. We had the heatwave at the end of April and then the thunderstorm outbreak on the 1st and from there it felt like wall to wall clouds and rain for weeks. The whole late 1990s period from 1995 onwards was generally much cloudier and wetter than the last 4-5 years have been. No comparison.

But there was a decent warm, dry spell at the end of April in 1998.     There was no rain here from 4/26 - 5/4 in 1998.   And 5 warm days in a row with a peak of 82 on two different days.   

And of course things turned quite a bit nicer in June 1998... only rained on 10 days here that month.    Then only 4 days in July and 2 days in August.   So 1998 is another good example of a persistently rainy May being rewarded.     There were WAY less days with rain in the JJA period in 1998 than there was here in 2019.    Its not even remotely in the same ball park.   

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4 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

A couple of token warm days really don't make that big of a difference in what the overall weather patterns are, and we'll probably have some more of those pretty soon anyways.

May 2010 felt very similar to this month here. A minor dry stretch but overwhelmingly cloudy with a lot of rain (mostly at the end of the month). I definitely seem to recall 2010 Tim agreeing. 

Mid May though mid June in 2010 was not nice.   But that was just a 30-day stretch.   We are working on a 60-day stretch here right now.   I have learned much more about our climate history since then.   I understand now that this is just how it works here.  

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Looks like March 2011 was the 10th wettest since 1895 here. This year we were about 1" below normal. 

I wasn't here in May/June 2010, but I remember my family telling me how wet and cool it was, and I remember certain folx on here freaking out. 

This year will end up significantly wetter than 2010, but probably about 2-3F warmer, that was the 3rd coldest May since 1895. 

June 2010 was also very chilly, 5th coldest, and pretty wet, wettest June here since 1984. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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34 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Looking at the PRISM data this April was the 7th coldest here since 1895 and 5th wettest. 

Hmmmm... Compared to Tim's location which was 10th coldest and 38th wettest, in the same period. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Hmmmm... Compared to Tim's location which was 10th coldest and 38th wettest, in the same period. 

Wettest is not the issue.   It's all about persistently wet.    That is the reason for people's perception.    For better or worse.   

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Wettest is not the issue.   It's all about persistently wet.    That is the reason for people's perception.    For better or worse.   

Perhaps, but I still laughed out loud when I saw that, it has been significantly wetter compared to climo here. I can't imagine if you had just had your 5th wettest April and were about to break the record for May.  

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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13 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Wettest is not the issue.   It's all about persistently wet.    That is the reason for people's perception.    For better or worse.   

October and November were historically wet at your location. October was the 16th wettest and November 10th. December and January were essentially normal, February below normal, and March and April were above normal, but not significantly. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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4 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

My wife wants to do an Alaskan Cruise... but I am too keen on cruises.   I have heard about lots of bad experiences.  Supposedly the rooms are tiny and everywhere you go on the ship is packed.   And the ships are basically petri dishes of different illnesses.   I am sure that is all exaggerated though.  

I was thinking the same, but I actually enjoyed my one and only cruise in January of 2008. It was a Baja Mexican cruise that left San Diego. Never slept so well in my life and I could always find an open lounge chair on the deck to relax and sip on a drink. Casino wasn’t too crowded either and the comedy shows were good. The food was also amazing. Had just finished having the Norwalk virus the week before going so I didn’t have to worry about catching that on the boat! 🤮🤣

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30 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Perhaps, but I still laughed out loud when I saw that, it has been significantly wetter compared to climo here. I can't imagine if you had just had your 5th wettest April and were about to break the record for May.  

I like rain records.    In terms of tangible weather... number of dry days is way more important.    February was awesome... all the rain came in 2 days!

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HRRR going with 1.15" overnight between 5p-5am. Should be a nice break this afternoon until about 9pm. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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32 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I like rain records.    In terms of tangible weather... number of dry days is way more important.    February was awesome... all the rain came in 2 days!

The wettest month at your location was December 1933. Rained over 30"!

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

The wettest month at your location was December 1933. Rained over 30"!

Don't remember that month.   😀

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2 hours ago, Kayla said:

Summer hasn't even begun yet and people are already acting like it's over.🙄 Most signs point to a dry July-Sept and I'm sure this Spring from hell (for some) will be long forgotten by mid July. 

I don’t know about July, but there are hints of a warm/dry signal in analogs extrapolated to Aug/Sep. The July pattern looks more like Apr-Jun.

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2 hours ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Not if it's another year like 1964.

Another volcanic year (Agung).

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So I haven't been paying attention to the volcanic thing. Do you really think it is having an impact Phil? Also do you know much about VPD? I don't know anything about it, but was looking at the PRISM charts and the maximum VPD in January has declined dramatically in recent years. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

So I haven't been paying attention to the volcanic thing. Do you really think it is having an impact Phil? Also do you know much about VPD? I don't know anything about it, but was looking at the PRISM charts and the maximum VPD in January has declined dramatically in recent years. 

What is VPD?

And yeah, the volcano is almost certainly affecting the system state..in fact there’s evidence it might have caused the niño transition to abort in January. Preliminary but fascinating if so.

As for what the specific effects are, and how they’re coming about, we’re still in observation mode.

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3 minutes ago, Phil said:

What is VPD?

And yeah, the volcano is almost certainly affecting the system state..in fact there’s evidence it might have caused the niño transition to abort in January. Preliminary but fascinating if so.

As for what the specific effects are, and how they’re coming about, we’re still in observation mode.

This is what I found on VPD...

Vapour-pressure deficit, or VPD, is the difference between the amount of moisture in the air and how much moisture the air can hold when it is saturated. Once air becomes saturated, water will condense out to form clouds, dew or films of water over leaves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vapour-pressure_deficit

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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3 minutes ago, Phil said:

What is VPD?

And yeah, the volcano is almost certainly affecting the system state..in fact there’s evidence it might have caused the niño transition to abort in January. Preliminary but fascinating if so.

As for what the specific effects are, and how they’re coming about, we’re still in observation mode.

That’s incredible if true. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

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+90 highs-0

 

 

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Looking like we will have our first sub 60 day in over a week today…55 and raining. 0.06” today and 3.70” this month. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This is what I found on VPD...

Vapour-pressure deficit, or VPD, is the difference between the amount of moisture in the air and how much moisture the air can hold when it is saturated. Once air becomes saturated, water will condense out to form clouds, dew or films of water over leaves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vapour-pressure_deficit

Interesting. I’ll read up on it.

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1 minute ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Looking like we will have our first sub 60 day in over a week today…55 and raining. 0.06” today and 3.70” this month. 

We hit 61 this morning, but it is down to 50 now. 0.30" of rain on the day. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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That eruption back in January was an amazing thing. On satellite it looked like a massive bomb had detonated. I remember we were in a very foggy pattern at the time and the Seattle NWS talking about how it actually briefly lifted the dense fog when the pressure wave hit. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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