May Winter Continue 2022 PNW

[mtep]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

I love his insight... best addition to the forum in years.  

I love reading his stuff even when he is talking about patterns that I don't like... he just sticks to the facts.

Totally agree. He's an insanely good writer too. Takes a smart person to be able to communicate complicated topics in an accessible way. Definitely helps people like me whos depth of knowledge in meteorology equates to about a puddle. 

[MV_snow]

I don’t mind troughy patterns generally if we can get sunbreaks. Except for the days with fronts that bring all day rain (like last Thursday and Friday), we’ve been doing decent in the sunbreak department. That said, I would not complain about a week of sun and 70s at this point. We’ve def earned it and the snowpack is in great shape here in WA.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Omegaraptor said:

There are a lot of people here on my campus… and I haven’t met a single person even remotely happy about this weather. Just complaining. Believe me - my opinion of it is probably higher than most other people I know, if just for an appreciation of the anomalies we’re seeing out of some of these airmasses.

There’s gotta be at least one person here who is legitimately enjoying it and wants it to be cold and wet every day… but I haven’t met them yet.

And generally people in the PNW like and appreciate the rain... but it seems this has been a bit much for almost everyone.   The issue at this point is that there is no end in sight.

[MV_snow]

Has anyone noticed the pattern getting stuck a lot more frequently in recent years? Endless ridges during the summer, endless rainy patterns in the fall and winter. Even Feb 19, as much as I loved it, was a result of a stuck pattern. This current pattern has been stuck since early April. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this or if I’m imagining it. I prefer a nice mix of weather myself so this hasn’t been a great development.

[RentonHill]

10 minutes ago, MV_snow said:

Has anyone noticed the pattern getting stuck a lot more frequently in recent years? Endless ridges during the summer, endless rainy patterns in the fall and winter. Even Feb 19, as much as I loved it, was a result of a stuck pattern. This current pattern has been stuck since early April. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this or if I’m imagining it. I prefer a nice mix of weather myself so this hasn’t been a great development.

 I remember @Deweydog saying something about pattern resets taking longer than before while we were all looking/hoping for a double dip in January after this past December

[Phil]

9 minutes ago, mtep said:

Totally agree. He's an insanely good writer too. Takes a smart person to be able to communicate complicated topics in an accessible way. Definitely helps people like me whos depth of knowledge in meteorology equates to about a puddle. 

Dude’s definitely smarter than me. I’m a s**t communicator, and always have been.

[Deweydog]

2 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

 I remember @Deweydog saying something about pattern resets taking longer than before while we were all looking/hoping for a double dip in January after this past December

I think there’s been a tendency for more in the way of “stuck” patterns over the last few years. Some have made comparisons to the 1930’s which seem pretty apt. Dynamic, just on a protracted timeline.

[Cascadia_Wx]

17 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

There are a lot of people here on my campus… and I haven’t met a single person even remotely happy about this weather. Just complaining. Believe me - my opinion of it is probably higher than most other people I know, if just for an appreciation of the anomalies we’re seeing out of some of these airmasses.

There’s gotta be at least one person here who is legitimately enjoying it and wants it to be cold and wet every day… but I haven’t met them yet.

Highly anecdotal observations like this usually seem to suffer from a lot of confirmation bias. We more readily see in others what we ourselves feel and tend to ignore information/evidence to the contrary. 

[Phil]

15 minutes ago, MV_snow said:

Has anyone noticed the pattern getting stuck a lot more frequently in recent years? Endless ridges during the summer, endless rainy patterns in the fall and winter. Even Feb 19, as much as I loved it, was a result of a stuck pattern. This current pattern has been stuck since early April. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this or if I’m imagining it. I prefer a nice mix of weather myself so this hasn’t been a great development.

I’m not sure. I remember some very “stuck” patterns out here in the 2009-12 period. Some of the recent summers have been “redundant” as well..endless humid SW flow with a trough in the middle of the country.

Summer 2021 was the first notable “break” in that regime locally, with more bouts of NW flow and severe weather as a result. Got almost 20” of convective rain in J/A/S alone.

Hoping that continues this summer. Though I fear the change will be towards something much hotter and drier instead.

[Phil]

The new EPS weeklies do look 1988-ish. Pretty much the nightmare scenario.

The PNW and northern New England are the only places with any hint at normalcy in the mean. Agreement is poor at-range but it’s not a pretty signal.

 

[Meatyorologist]

Y’all got me crying in the club tysm

[TT-SEA]

50 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Highly anecdotal observations like this usually seem to suffer from a lot of confirmation bias. We more readily see in others what we ourselves feel and tend to ignore information/evidence to the contrary. 

Yes... I am sure most people want it to rain every day.   Ask around.    This is just dismissing the reality that people grow tired of anomalous patterns when it drags on forever... warm or cold.    

[TacomaWaWx]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

Snowmizer wants to live in Alaska and he loves cool, wet weather and he is frustrated.     I am starting to think the only people who love rain every single day are posting on this forum and they are militant about it.  

I definitely understand most people who aren’t weather weenies like us on this forum are wanting sunshine and warmth. It has been a chilly wet spring. Here in Tacoma overall we’ve still managed some pretty decent days mixed in the last few weeks…so I’ve actually found it to be pretty pleasant. I know some other places around the region haven’t fared as well. Can’t deny the benefits of the rains and mountain snows for the ecosystem so that’s a plus.  I’m just a major rain/snow/cold fan so I’ve really enjoyed it. 

[T-Town]

3 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

I definitely understand most people who aren’t weather weenies like us on this forum are wanting sunshine and warmth. It has been a chilly wet spring. Here in Tacoma overall we’ve still managed some pretty decent days mixed in the last few weeks…so I’ve actually found it to be pretty pleasant. I know some other places around the region haven’t fared as well. Can’t deny the benefits of the rains and mountain snows for the ecosystem so that’s a plus.  I’m just a major rain/snow/cold fan so I’ve really enjoyed it. 

Ditto. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I haven’t heard anyone complain about the rain. I have heard several people mention how grateful they are for the bounty of the Lord.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I haven’t heard anyone complain about the rain. I have heard several people mention how grateful they are for the bounty of the Lord.

Praise the almighty!!  

[Deweydog]

19 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yes... I am sure most people want it to rain every day.   Ask around.    This is just dismissing the reality that people grow tired of anomalous patterns when it drags on forever... warm or cold.    

The only real concerted bitching I’ve heard has been from the spring sports folka, but those militant parents complain about everything. It’s kind of fun now being on the outside looking in after doing my time coaching while chilled to the bone back in the early to mid 10’s. Other than that it’s just your typical, mirthless conversation starter, like colorectal cancer.  

[Meatyorologist]

I can understand why those want warm weather… Though it would be disingenuous to say it hasn’t been beautiful. Convective Springlike weather with wintertime temperatures brings about very nice cumulus.

[TT-SEA]

Ozark completed.   Need some more suggestions.   

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Deweydog said:

The only real concerted bitching I’ve heard has been from the spring sports folka, but those militant parents complain about everything. It’s kind of fun now being on the outside looking in after doing my time coaching while chilled to the bone back in the early to mid 10’s. Other than that it’s just your typical, mirthless conversation starter, like colorectal cancer.  

Yeah... I try to avoid those inane conversations with strangers entirely.

[Deweydog]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Ozark completed.   Need some more suggestions.   

Have you done Severance?

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Have you done Severance?

I have not.    Checking it out now.

[Deweydog]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

I have not.    Checking it out now.

Highly recommended.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

52/34 with 0.00” of rain today.

[RentonHill]

21 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

The only real concerted bitching I’ve heard has been from the spring sports folka, but those militant parents complain about everything. It’s kind of fun now being on the outside looking in after doing my time coaching while chilled to the bone back in the early to mid 10’s. Other than that it’s just your typical, mirthless conversation starter, like colorectal cancer.  

Had a colonoscopy my senior year of college. It was hot out 

[TT-SEA]

Hey @Meatyorologist... check out those interesting cells cruising southeastward across southern WA with blow off heading northward.   Pretty cool looking.   

[MossMan]

48 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Ozark completed.   Need some more suggestions.   

Watch this! It will bring back the early 80’s windstorm pattern! 

[Phil]

8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Hey @Meatyorologist... check out those interesting cells cruising southeastward across southern WA with blow off heading northward.   Pretty cool looking.   

Hailing there again?

[T-Town]

9 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Watch this! It will bring back the early 80’s windstorm pattern! 

Pretty cool that you trained the dog to balance a ball on its back. 

[TT-SEA]

6 minutes ago, Phil said:

Hailing there again?

Not here... raining pretty hard now but can see bright sky to the west.  

[Phil]

Wow..still winter up in MI.

 

[Deweydog]

1 hour ago, RentonHillTC said:

Had a colonoscopy my senior year of college. It was hot out 

Sounds like a real pain in the a**.

[Meatyorologist]

7 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Sounds like a real pain in the a**.

My dad who got the colon cancer and ended up having an eliostomy started calling it his “semicolon”. Gotta love that guy.

Dude’s in his 50s chugging away, still faster than me on the trail, bag or no bag.

[Meatyorologist]

51 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Hey @Meatyorologist... check out those interesting cells cruising southeastward across southern WA with blow off heading northward.   Pretty cool looking.   

Nice. Terrain forcing some tall convection. LCL’s (cloud bases) out there around 7k feet.

[The Blob]

3 hours ago, smerfylicious said:

Can you throw me some tips? I'm trying for strawberry here as well but it just ain't growin'

I grow them in pots and most of the ones with a lot of flowers I've had for about 3 years.

[The Blob]

3 hours ago, Omegaraptor said:

I have a field trip scheduled to Bend area for my volcanism class on the 21st. It will be relocated if the pass is snowed in… and I have been looking forward to this field trip for a while… so I would greatly prefer if the pass was not snowed in. Hopefully not too much to ask.

I had that happen with a geology class. We were going to look for trilobites outside Goldfield NV, but there was already about 3in of snow with about 16 more to come.

[Meatyorologist]

57/40 at KSEA, good for a 48.5°F average and a -7.8°F departure. Should be similar the next two days.

[TacomaWaWx]

8 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

57/40 at KSEA, good for a 48.5°F average and a -7.8°F departure. Should be similar the next two days.

If the euros right…we’re due for another 2” of rain in the next week. Might finally get into the low 60s this weekend…but still even that’s below normal. Overall doesn’t look like any above average weather for atleast another week. 

[Meatyorologist]

Thursday could be a very Winterlike day. Temps briefly spike up to the low 50s late in the morning (overdone IMO) before a cold stratoform rain shield comes barreling into the Sound by 10. If there’s a day this month that will stay in the 40s, this one would be it.

[Meatyorologist]

2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Thursday could be a very Winterlike day. Temps briefly spike up to the low 50s late in the morning (overdone IMO) before a cold stratoform rain shield comes barreling into the Sound by 10. If there’s a day this month that will stay in the 40s, this one would be it.

Record low max for this date is 53°F in 1999. Absolutely feasible.