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27 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

I'm sure those pictures don't nearly do the scale justice. In NOLA just after landing at the airport, there was a fairly distant but tall storm. Took up a solid portion of the sky yet was shrouded in humid haze nearly 50 miles away. That sense of scale for a cloud to take up was enormous, I'll never forget it. Very ominous.

Oh yeah, it never does. The photos are always disappointing. 

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Another nice day yesterday. Mostly sunny early then clouded up late in the afternoon. 61/37 spread.

Mostly cloudy and 48 this morning. Hasn’t rained much yet but looks like that could change later on.

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SEA has been below normal on 40 out of the last 42 days.

Currently running at -5.5 departure for May and is at 266% of normal rain month to date.    Per the ECMWF... there will be rain on 9 of the next 10 days and every day will be colder than normal.   

We might have been due... but there is nothing even close to normal about this spring based on climo despite a few people's memories of rain in the spring when they were kids.   

A straight up climo spring next year would be a massive improvement... and a major let down for those who think this is just normal.   👍

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Low of 46 this morning…just 0.01” so far today and 2.15” for the month. 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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Euro shows 1.7” of rain here in the next week. Over 2” in the next 10 days. Definitely think it’s possible we go over 4” of rain this month…which is even more than we saw in April (3.63”) 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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35 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

SEA has been below normal on 40 out of the last 42 days.

Currently running at -5.5 departure for May and is at 266% of normal rain month to date.    Per the ECMWF... there will be rain on 9 of the next 10 days and every day will be colder than normal.   

We might have been due... but there is nothing even close to normal about this spring based on climo despite a few people's memories of rain in the spring when they were kids.   

A straight up climo spring next year would be a massive improvement... and a major let down for those who think this is just normal.   👍

That’s what an out-of-season strengthening La Niña can do.

At least you’ll have the “overdue cold spring/summer” monkey off your back after this year.

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8 minutes ago, Phil said:

That’s what an out-of-season strengthening La Niña can do.

At least you’ll have the “overdue cold spring/summer” monkey off your back after this year.

Even 1975 had a week of dry weather and temps in the 70s here at the end of May and again during the second week of June.   In 1988 we had a really good stretch through the middle of May and a long 2-week stretch in during the middle of June.   It would be pretty nice to get similar breaks this year... but seems unlikely at this point. 

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10 minutes ago, Phil said:

That’s what an out-of-season strengthening La Niña can do.

At least you’ll have the “overdue cold spring/summer” monkey off your back after this year.

We will see about the cold summer part. I do think this summer will be different than most of the last 10 years but you never really know. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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3 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

We will see about the cold summer part. I do think this summer will be different than most of the last 10 years but you never really know. 

I would bet a nice sum of money that this summer will not be warmer than normal.     We are just in a cold cycle right now.   That does not mean it will be raining and dreary all summer... but to end up warmer than normal for JJA seems very unlikely.

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3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I would bet a nice sum of money that this summer will not be warmer than normal.  We are just in a cold cycle right now. That does not mean it will be raining and dreary all summer... but to end up warmer than normal for JJA seems very unlikely.

Jim? 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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Just now, TacomaWaWx said:

Jim? 

No... Tim.   Its a similar name so I can see why you got it confused.   😃

But its hard to deny the reality right now that its almost impossible to get even a normal day in terms of temperature.    And there is no sign of that changing.

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

No... Tim.   Its a similar name so I can see why you got it confused.   😃

But its hard to deny the reality right now that its almost impossible to get even a normal day in terms of temperature.    And there is no sign of that changing.

Yeah overall we’ve leaned below normal over the last 5 months…with March being the only exception. Even that month wasn’t really a torch. 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

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Who's in the purple area in Oregon?

No one.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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38 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Even 1975 had a week of dry weather and temps in the 70s here at the end of May and again during the second week of June.   In 1988 we had a really good stretch through the middle of May and a long 2-week stretch in during the middle of June.   It would be pretty nice to get similar breaks this year... but seems unlikely at this point. 

It would have been pretty nice to not have hit 115 last year... but seems unlikely at this point.

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31 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

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Who's in the purple area in Oregon?

Santiam Pass and McKenzie Pass over the Belknap Gap, which can see spillover of Arctic air down the McKenzie River valley in CCG mountain wave events like Feb 2014.

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 21-22 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 35F (Dec 27, 2021)
  • Coldest low: 17F (Feb 23, 2022)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Apr 17, 2022)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 17, 2022)
  • Total snowfall: 10.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) *Longest streak without a sub-freezing high on record*
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 30.7"

 

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6 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

It would have been pretty nice to not have hit 115 last year... but seems unlikely at this point.

It would have been very nice to not hit 115... or even 100 for that matter.

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0.20” of blessings so far this morning. Current temp 40.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Looking at the month to date departures in S. Oregon. They are very impressive. -7.4F at K-Falls, -5.6F at Medford. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Rain/snow mix here with 0.22" in the bucket so far this morning and sitting at 35F. 

And @TT-SEA @Omegaraptor If I hear another single word about your weather being "winter" or "winter like" I might blow a gasket!😝

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Cold Season 2021/22:

Total snowfall: 119.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 16"

Highest snow depth: 20"

Coldest high: -5ºF

Coldest low: -25ºF

Number of subzero days: 1

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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16 hours ago, Phil said:

Still can’t believe this is May. Looks like a midwinter ENSO.

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Crazy how cold that patch is off the immediate East Coast near you. Think that'll help keep things a bit more tolerable as Summer starts there?

Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

2021-22: 17.75"

-12/24: 0.5"

-12/26: 8.5"

-12/27: 1.5"

-12/29-30: 4"

-1/2: 2"

-1/5: 0.5"

-2/22: 0.25"

-2/24: 0.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

2019-20: 10.5"

2020-21: 14.5”

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Rain/snow mix here with 0.22" in the bucket so far this morning and sitting at 35F. 

And @TT-SEA @Omegaraptor If I hear another single word about like your weather being "winter" or "winter like" I might blow a gasket!😝

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Oh... I definitely understand it could be much worse! 

Typical winter weather here is rain on most days while its cold and snowing there.    So it actually is winter-like for all of us.  🙁

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2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

47 and steadily raining. Fairly windy earlier ahead of the precip.

Wintry.

One might say its winter-like.   

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Rains starting up here. Breezy southerlies warmed us up to 53…so no sub 50 high today but might not get much warmer than it is right now. 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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Looking at the models, tomorrow night is looking pretty wet. Next week looks mostly dry aside from some showers on Thursday/Friday. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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15 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said:

Crazy how cold that patch is off the immediate East Coast near you. Think that'll help keep things a bit more tolerable as Summer starts there?

Yeah the NE winds associated with the weekend ULL really cooled the waters over the continental shelf. Our marine layer has been overperforming as a result.

Might help us a bit over the next few weeks, but those waters (and those of the Chesapeake) are very shallow and will be quickly warmed by insolation and S/SW winds over the coming weeks. Seen this play out too many times. :lol: 

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20 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Rain/snow mix here with 0.22" in the bucket so far this morning and sitting at 35F. 

And @TT-SEA @Omegaraptor If I hear another single word about like your weather being "winter" or "winter like" I might blow a gasket!😝

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oh wow I guess I haven’t really been paying attention to the temp, I guess it *is* pretty chilly…and it was so nice yesterday.  We almost sat outside to eat dinner at Sidewall pizza.

One station near me is reporting 32 and another is reporting 36.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Chewbacca Defense said:

oh wow I guess I haven’t really been paying attention to the temp, I guess it *is* pretty chilly…and it was so nice yesterday.  We almost sat outside to eat dinner at Sidewall pizza.

One station near me is reporting 32 and another is reporting 36.

 

 

Yeah yesterday was lovely, today not so much! 

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Cold Season 2021/22:

Total snowfall: 119.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 16"

Highest snow depth: 20"

Coldest high: -5ºF

Coldest low: -25ºF

Number of subzero days: 1

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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The last two weeks have been very wet just about everywhere in the NW minus the hi-line. That still doesn't mean its winter, Tim!

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Cold Season 2021/22:

Total snowfall: 119.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 16"

Highest snow depth: 20"

Coldest high: -5ºF

Coldest low: -25ºF

Number of subzero days: 1

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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6 minutes ago, Kayla said:

The last two weeks have been very wet just about everywhere in the NW minus the hi-line. That still doesn't mean its winter, Tim!

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You are being way too literal lately.    Taking a cue from Chris?   😃

I think the vast majority of people in the PNW would say that this spring has felt like a continuation of winter.   

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

You are being way too literal lately.    Taking a cue from Chris?   😃

I think the vast majority of people in the PNW would say that this spring has felt like a continuation of winter.   

Just giving you a hard time! Got my 12 mile run in early this morning and now at work, grounded and feeling punchy!😜

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Cold Season 2021/22:

Total snowfall: 119.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 16"

Highest snow depth: 20"

Coldest high: -5ºF

Coldest low: -25ºF

Number of subzero days: 1

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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It's been quite dry up here for the last week actually. Significantly below normal even for precipitation. Since the 6th I've only picked up 0.21". I wonder when this drought will end.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.24 (2010)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 5.8"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5"

2021-22: 21.75" (12/24: Tr, 12/25: 5", 12/26: 3", 12/27: 1.5", 12/28: Tr, 12/29: 1", 12/30: 3", 1/5: 2.5", 1/6: 1", 2/2: Tr, 2/21: 1.5", 2/22: 0.75", 2/23: 1.5", 2/24: 1")

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3 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

A tale of two extremes. California bone dry, PNW sopping wet.

La Ninas suck.   We need something different.  

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1 hour ago, Kayla said:

The last two weeks have been very wet just about everywhere in the NW minus the hi-line. That still doesn't mean its winter, Tim!

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Is there now a 12000’ mountain range running almost exactly along the 42nd parallel I’m not familiar with?

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9 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

La Ninas suck.   We need something different.  

Sorry you had to suffer so much so the rest of the NW can get some drought relief this Spring.😉 

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Cold Season 2021/22:

Total snowfall: 119.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 16"

Highest snow depth: 20"

Coldest high: -5ºF

Coldest low: -25ºF

Number of subzero days: 1

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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1 minute ago, Kayla said:

Sorry you had to suffer so much so the rest of the NW can get some drought relief this Spring.😉 

Got that out of the way... time to switch it up now and focus on the SW!

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Hood Basin snowpack now 205% of median. Keep in mind this is median, not mean, however.

Could see Willamette Basin break 200% as well in the next couple days. They’re at 186% and adding more snowpack today. In addition by tomorrow every basin in Oregon should be over 100% of median.

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5 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

A straight up climo spring next year would be a massive improvement... and a major let down for those who think this is just normal.   👍

Agreed, I am ready for some neutral or el nino patterns that will produce a climo setup at least. As much as I love snow I am starting to despise cold spells in late spring more.  2020 had an average high of 70.8 with 14 days above 70 in May plus only 0.12in of rain, so here is hoping for 2023!

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10 minutes ago, joelgombiner said:

Quillayute down to 37 °F with moderate rain and a wind chill of 31 °F. 

https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KUIL&hours=72 

That's completely absurd. Nearly Noon in mid-May and it's almost snowing on the Coast.

This station at 700 feet North of Forks is down to 34 so the snow level out there is almost certainly under 1,000 feet.

https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA86

 

 

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

2021-22: 17.75"

-12/24: 0.5"

-12/26: 8.5"

-12/27: 1.5"

-12/29-30: 4"

-1/2: 2"

-1/5: 0.5"

-2/22: 0.25"

-2/24: 0.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

2019-20: 10.5"

2020-21: 14.5”

 

 

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Posted (edited)

Had a high of 49 degrees this morning before the rain started. Been getting nice moderate rain and down to 47 now. 
 

Nice to see the man baby is still having a tantrum. 

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Sure looks like snow on the Heckelsville Shed webcam on 101. I think it's around 900 feet.

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

2021-22: 17.75"

-12/24: 0.5"

-12/26: 8.5"

-12/27: 1.5"

-12/29-30: 4"

-1/2: 2"

-1/5: 0.5"

-2/22: 0.25"

-2/24: 0.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

2019-20: 10.5"

2020-21: 14.5”

 

 

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