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53F with heavy rain. 0.36" in just the last couple hours. Almost 4" on the month! Keep the fires away!

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 21-22 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 35F (Dec 27, 2021)
  • Coldest low: 17F (Feb 23, 2022)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Apr 17, 2022)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 17, 2022)
  • Total snowfall: 10.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) *Longest streak without a sub-freezing high on record*
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 30.7"

 

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A more organized frontal system arrives on Sunday.  Steady rain by day will turn to showers in the evening. Itappears another disturbance is behind that for Tuesday with a stronger front with widespread rain and wind on Tuesday!! Wednesday looks like showers as the trough settles in Thursday!  It's gonna be fun! 🤞

Saturday.

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Thursday

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Just now, NWbyNW said:

A more organized frontal system arrives on Sunday.  Steady rain by day will turn to showers in the evening. Itappears another disturbance is behind that for Tuesday with a stronger front with widespread rain and wind on Tuesday!! Wednesday looks like showers as the trough settles in Thursday!  It's gonna be fun! 🤞

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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Also, this is under 500'??!?

Apparently that whole valley is a great location for cold air damming, and the heavy precipitation plus nighttime timing made for one hell of a mid May snowfall. Near sea level.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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0.51” since midnight. 7.85 on the month. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Pretty amazing how cool overall the next week or so is looking, even though we warm up a little compared to the first few weeks of the month.

Snow levels were ridiculously low in spots with the trough that moved in Thursday. Widespread reports of snow below 1,000 out toward the coast. Fairly historic.

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17 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

0.51” since midnight. 7.85 on the month. 

That's incredible. Going to easily surpass 10" on the month.

Cold Season 2021/22:

Total snowfall: 119.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 16"

Highest snow depth: 20"

Coldest high: -5ºF

Coldest low: -25ºF

Number of subzero days: 1

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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Only 0.02” overnight…but the rains needed further south anyways. 2.31” of rain so far this month. 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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5 hours ago, NWbyNW said:

A more organized frontal system arrives on Sunday.  Steady rain by day will turn to showers in the evening. Itappears another disturbance is behind that for Tuesday with a stronger front with widespread rain and wind on Tuesday!! Wednesday looks like showers as the trough settles in Thursday!  It's gonna be fun! 🤞

Saturday.

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Thursday

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Maybe it will be a smoke free summer. 

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SEA has cracked 1 day above the maximum normal high this month. That occurred on May 4 with a high of 65. I’m starting to believe the rest of the month may not hit the maximum normal high.

Which is kinda absurd because by the end of this month, we should be near 70 for the normal. 
 

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Getting some more rain now. This has definitely been a very prolific La Niña spring and the euro looks to keep it that way going into the final week of May. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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FYI

Blood Moonrise Tonight.  
 

The entire eclipse will be over five hours long, starting at 9:32 p.m. EDT on Sunday, May 15, and lasting until 2:50 a.m. EDT on Monday, May 16.

However, the total phase of the eclipse, when the moon changes color, will last only about an hour and a half, starting at 11:29 p.m. EDT and ending at 12:53 a.m. EDT. The middle of the eclipse will be the best time to look at the moon and will occur at 12:11 a.m. EDT.

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2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4*

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6 minutes ago, Andie said:

FYI

Blood Moonrise Tonight.  
 

The entire eclipse will be over five hours long, starting at 9:32 p.m. EDT on Sunday, May 15, and lasting until 2:50 a.m. EDT on Monday, May 16.

However, the total phase of the eclipse, when the moon changes color, will last only about an hour and a half, starting at 11:29 p.m. EDT and ending at 12:53 a.m. EDT. The middle of the eclipse will be the best time to look at the moon and will occur at 12:11 a.m. EDT.

Sounds cool. Too bad it will be too cloudy for the PNW to see it.

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Moderate rain and 46 degrees. 
.14” so far on the day. 
Oh and quite breezy as well. 
Is todays date November 14th? 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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Seems like places up north got some pretty weak totals, yet the complaining is still strong.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Seems like places up north got some pretty weak totals, yet the complaining is still strong.

Rain is rain... totals are only important for statistics right now.     There is no additional benefit to putting more water on a sopping wet sponge.    It doesn't change anything.    If our vegetation prefers climo then some dry days would probably be beneficial.     But we seem to just get one extreme or the other.    

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This 3-year Nina is doing wonders.    The western US is completely out of balance.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Rain is rain... totals are only important for statistics right now.     There is no additional benefit to putting more water on a sopping wet sponge.    It doesn't change anything.    If our vegetation prefers climo then some dry days would probably be beneficial.     But we seem to just get is one extreme or the other.    

In the long run the more rain we get in the spring the better. Winter rain is heavier and has more of a tendency to just run off. Also there is a huge tangible difference between getting over an inch of rain and getting a few hundredths. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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I found water year statistics for SLE. Right now SLE is slightly above normal on the water year, if they can end up above normal it will be the first time since 2016-17. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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44 minutes ago, Andie said:

FYI

Blood Moonrise Tonight.  
 

The entire eclipse will be over five hours long, starting at 9:32 p.m. EDT on Sunday, May 15, and lasting until 2:50 a.m. EDT on Monday, May 16.

However, the total phase of the eclipse, when the moon changes color, will last only about an hour and a half, starting at 11:29 p.m. EDT and ending at 12:53 a.m. EDT. The middle of the eclipse will be the best time to look at the moon and will occur at 12:11 a.m. EDT.

Actually it's tomorrow night. 

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Looks like we just cruised past 8" of rain on the month. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

This 3-year Nina is doing wonders.    The western US is completely out of balance.

Looks like you’re about to reach the May monthly average rainfall within the hour!

https://www.northbendweather.com/WWL-mobile.php

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5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

In the long run the more rain we get in the spring the better. Winter rain is heavier and has more of a tendency to just run off. Also there is a huge tangible difference between getting over an inch of rain and getting a few hundredths. 

There is very little tangible difference between light rain and moderate rain... its wet either way.    And there would be absolutely no issues with a 4 or 5 day dry period which is perfectly normal at this time of year.   This is a silly discussion.    One where we pretend it normally rains every day and anything less is catastrophic for the environment.  🤪

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Just insane this is the middle of May. Actually a stronger -ENSO signature than any of the 2008-12 years. Even healthier than 1999 and 1988 at this time.

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3 minutes ago, Phil said:

Looks like you’re about to reach the May monthly average rainfall within the hour!

https://www.northbendweather.com/WWL-mobile.php

Yes... we have not talked about it much on here but its been pretty wet.    ;)

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

Looks like you’re about to reach the May monthly average rainfall within the hour!

https://www.northbendweather.com/WWL-mobile.php

Salem is at 3.23" now, average for May there is 2.25". Already their wettest May since 2011. All time record is 5.54" in 1896. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Also the WPAC warm pool is displaced farther S/W this year compared to 2011.

Hard to find a stronger cool western US signal at this time of year. At least during the satellite era.

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Also the WPAC warm pool is displaced farther S/W this year compared to 2011.

Hard to find a stronger cool western US signal at this time of year. At least during the satellite era.

Yeah... the persistence is very unusual.  

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Rain is shifting east now... should be a somewhat decent day.    At least we have a warmer air mass overhead for a couple days.

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9 minutes ago, Phil said:

Just insane this is the middle of May. Actually a stronger -ENSO signature than any of the 2008-12 years. Even healthier than 1999 and 1988 at this time.

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May 1985 looked similar... of course that was a ridiculously dry year here.

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

There is very little tangible difference between light rain and moderate rain... its wet either way.    And there would be absolutely no issues with a 4 or 5 day dry period which is perfectly normal at this time of year.   This is a silly discussion.    One where we pretend it normally rains every day and anything less is catastrophic for the environment.  🤪

No one is saying it needs to rain everyday. The fact is it has been wetter relative to average in Western Oregon, which is where a large surplus of rain was needed. 

In this area, after years of heat and long term drought, this is helpful for the native vegetation and fish. I have not fished at Silver Falls yet this year, but I worry most of the trout were boiled alive last summer as the creek was already at low summer flows when the park blew away their all time high and hit 108. Not to mention how hot it stayed the rest of the summer, if you don't understand, read the posts I put up last night about it. This spring though the creek is flowing with good volume and cold water the fish love. My Dad has several acres of Douglas Fir, they have been dying in alarming numbers the past couple of years due to heat/drought stress. This weather will help the remaining ones tremendously. 

Maybe you guys up there didn't need this, but we did. I've enjoyed the dry days we've had, if we get a few more that would be nice, but getting the rain and not torching is more important. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No one is saying it needs to rain everyday. The fact is it has been wetter relative to average in Western Oregon, which is where a large surplus of rain was needed. 

In this area, after years of heat and long term drought, this is helpful for the native vegetation and fish. I have not fished at Silver Falls yet this year, but I worry most of the trout were boiled alive last summer as the creek was already at low summer flows when the park blew away their all time high and hit 108. Not to mention how hot it stayed the rest of the summer, if you don't understand, read the posts I put up last night about it. This spring though the creek is flowing with good volume and cold water the fish love. My Dad has several acres of Douglas Fir, they have been dying in alarming numbers the past couple of years due to heat/drought stress. This weather will help the remaining ones tremendously. 

Maybe you guys up there didn't need this, but we did. I've enjoyed the dry days we've had, if we get a few more that would be nice, but getting the rain and not torching is more important. 

I totally understand your perspective given what you have been through down there.  

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5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

May 1985 looked similar... of course that was a ridiculously dry year here.

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1985 was the 2nd driest year on record at Salem. Also the coldest calendar year on record in the 1892-present period of record. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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10 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

May 1985 looked similar... of course that was a ridiculously dry year here.

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But that was cool everywhere. What really matters for tropical circulation as it relates to ENSO/etc is differential heating (IE: where are SSTs warm/cold relative to other places).

You can see a *relatively* warm off-equator NPAC in that image, in addition to a +SIOD, +SPMM, and -AMM. All of which are lacking this year. That’s basically the cold globe/post-eruption version of 2014. This year is more like an enhanced 2011 in the deep tropics.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

I totally understand your perspective given what you have been through down there.  

And don't get me wrong, a dry day would be nice. Our property has never been this muddy... Not even close, and we would like to get a garden in soon, and do other yard projects. But dry weather will come. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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23 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Actually it's tomorrow night. 

Yup. Got ahead of myself !!

Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes.

 

2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4*

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In other news, the upcoming post-extension -dAAMT is a big time severe weather signal at this time of year.

Someone is going to get smashed later this month.

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This upcoming week may be the driest of the month. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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15 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No one is saying it needs to rain everyday. The fact is it has been wetter relative to average in Western Oregon, which is where a large surplus of rain was needed. 

In this area, after years of heat and long term drought, this is helpful for the native vegetation and fish. I have not fished at Silver Falls yet this year, but I worry most of the trout were boiled alive last summer as the creek was already at low summer flows when the park blew away their all time high and hit 108. Not to mention how hot it stayed the rest of the summer, if you don't understand, read the posts I put up last night about it. This spring though the creek is flowing with good volume and cold water the fish love. My Dad has several acres of Douglas Fir, they have been dying in alarming numbers the past couple of years due to heat/drought stress. This weather will help the remaining ones tremendously. 

Maybe you guys up there didn't need this, but we did. I've enjoyed the dry days we've had, if we get a few more that would be nice, but getting the rain and not torching is more important. 

We need the rain, but it should happen during the night or during weekdays when we're stuck in the office.

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31 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

This 3-year Nina is doing wonders.    The western US is completely out of balance.

I notice the other day people were pissed with Larry Cosgrove in his comments section because he against the La nina ideas lol he still forecasting weak El nino by end of summer.

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15 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No one is saying it needs to rain everyday. The fact is it has been wetter relative to average in Western Oregon, which is where a large surplus of rain was needed. 

In this area, after years of heat and long term drought, this is helpful for the native vegetation and fish. I have not fished at Silver Falls yet this year, but I worry most of the trout were boiled alive last summer as the creek was already at low summer flows when the park blew away their all time high and hit 108. Not to mention how hot it stayed the rest of the summer, if you don't understand, read the posts I put up last night about it. This spring though the creek is flowing with good volume and cold water the fish love. My Dad has several acres of Douglas Fir, they have been dying in alarming numbers the past couple of years due to heat/drought stress. This weather will help the remaining ones tremendously. 

Maybe you guys up there didn't need this, but we did. I've enjoyed the dry days we've had, if we get a few more that would be nice, but getting the rain and not torching is more important. 

Didn't Salem break a record for 90 degree days? They even hit 100 again late in July. Portland had a lot of high 80s I think. 

 

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