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This feels like a spring version of February-March or September-October 2019… constant troughing in the NW. Both of those patterns lasted about a month and a half, and we’re about at a month of this pattern at this point. So hopefully we’re running out the clock.

Amazingly some of the deciduous trees around here are just barely budding… and it’s mid May. The vegetation is way behind schedule.

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3 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

This feels like a spring version of February-March or September-October 2019… everlasting troughing in the NW. Both of those patterns lasted about a month and a half, and we’re about at a month of this pattern at this point. So hopefully we’re running out the clock.

So we'll see a return to constant troughing in November/December and then a dry/cold January????

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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18z looked fairly moist. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

So we'll see a return to constant troughing in November/December and then a dry/cold January????

Certainly wouldn’t mind.

And for consistent extended cold patterns in December and January… we certainly saw that in 2016-17.

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2 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Certainly wouldn’t mind.

And for consistent extended cold patterns in December and January… we certainly saw that in 2016-17.

The storm on the 10th of January was absolutely insane for me. 13 inches of snow and 40+ mph winds, and thunder. And the snow lasted for a week.

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14 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

This feels like a spring version of February-March or September-October 2019… constant troughing in the NW. Both of those patterns lasted about a month and a half, and we’re about at a month of this pattern at this point. So hopefully we’re running out the clock.

Amazingly some of the deciduous trees around here are just barely budding… and it’s mid May. The vegetation is way behind schedule.

Yeah.. the fact that the vegetation can finish fully leafing out is really strange.   And as each day passes it gets more strange because the weather is not going to help at all for at least the next 2 weeks and probably longer.    

I do think we will suddenly break out of this pattern eventually... likely in early June and then it will suddenly feel like summer.    Not hot... but much more reasonable for the warm season.

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4 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

The storm on the 10th of January was absolutely insane for me. 13 inches of snow and 40+ mph winds, and thunder. And the snow lasted for a week.

I was in San Antonio on 1/10/17. It was 81 degrees. Flight back home got cancelled and we spent a night in Vegas waiting for them to clear the airport. So I didn’t watch the actual event unfold but I got back for the foot of snow on the ground.

However I was in Sunriver for the week around Christmas 2016. Only time I’ve ever witnessed the mercury drop below zero.

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SLE is over 2.5” on the month now. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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29 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

I thought they said that not enough SO2 was released to have a noticeable effect on our weather? I don't know much though.

Not enough SO^2 to lower global temperatures. But lots of other stuff was ejected as well, water vapor in particular. It could have a significant impact on the global heat/radiation budget and general circulation.

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Not a fan of the 18z puking a bunch of snow on the passes right before my field trip… but I’ve accepted that is the most likely outcome. We will probably go to southeast Portland instead and to Powell Butte and other features. The Boring Lava Fields are more interesting than I thought they were. Similar to the field in central Mexico that Paricutin is part of, actually.
 

On the bright side (and this is a pretty big bright side) the Southwest gets in on the party. Would significantly lessen CA’s drought going into summer.

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11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yeah.. the fact that the vegetation can finish fully leafing out is really strange.   And as each day passes it gets more strange because the weather is not going to help at all for at least the next 2 weeks and probably longer.    

I do think we will suddenly break out of this pattern eventually... likely in early June and then it will suddenly feel like summer.    Not hot... but much more reasonable for the warm season.

I don’t think it’ll be “sudden” at all. But at some point there has to be breaks in the troughing, right? I’m surprised how persistent it has been.

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Is anyone else sick to death of this pattern yet?  I like the below normal temps, but does it have to be THIS gloomy?

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Is anyone else sick to death of this pattern yet?  I like the below normal temps, but does it have to be THIS gloomy?

No this is fine. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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6 minutes ago, Phil said:

Impressive.

 

This is the kind of stuff a highly amplifed regime dishes out.  If it's going to be 1930s like I hope we eventually get into some of the cold / drier stuff we saw during that decade.  I expect we will see a number of rather extreme and persistent regimes set up over the next several years as we did back then.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Is anyone else sick to death of this pattern yet?  I like the below normal temps, but does it have to be THIS gloomy?

I am sure its most everyone in western WA at this point.  

Not going to change this month. 

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5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No this is fine. 

This is seriously cutting into the time of year we should be able to enjoy doing outdoor activities.  I've been doing stuff outside, but it's been in spite of less than favorable conditions.  Many times lately I have been the only one outdoors in my neigborhood.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

This is seriously cutting into the time of year we should be able to enjoy doing outdoor activities.  I've been doing stuff outside, but it's been in spite of less than favorable conditions.  Many times lately I have been the only one outdoors in my neigborhood.

Maybe if January and February hadn’t been so lame we wouldn’t have needed all this rain.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Maybe if January and February hadn’t been so lame we wouldn’t have needed all this rain.

We are about 8 inches above normal for the water... and SEA has received more than 40 inches of rain in the last 7 months.

We sure don't need any more rain up here.   So we get the worst of both worlds.    As usual.

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1 minute ago, Doiinko said:

The cold wave in Feb was nice. More precipitation then would've been better though.

Yes. I was speaking more of precip.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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According to some weather stations near me, we somehow managed a subfreezing high on the 27th of December? With a midnight high of 31-32 depending on the station. Looks like PDX recorded a high of 34 on that day. That's pretty nice considering most of the arctic air didn't make it down here. I hope the southern Willamette Valley can manage one at some point next winter.

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3 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

According to some weather stations near me, we somehow managed a subfreezing high on the 27th of December? With a midnight high of 31-32 depending on the station. Looks like PDX recorded a high of 34 on that day. That's pretty nice considering most of the arctic air didn't make it down here. I hope the southern Willamette Valley can manage one at some point next winter.

I was in Sunriver when that went down - one of the top stretches of winter weather I've seen. Just incredible amounts of snow especially on Mt Bachelor. Every snow forecast just massively overperformed.

Likewise, only thing that was kind of lame was getting shafted on Arctic air. Models were showing temps well below zero until a few days before... then rugpulled the Arctic air up into northern WA.

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1 minute ago, Omegaraptor said:

I was in Sunriver when that went down - one of the top stretches of winter weather I've seen. Just incredible amounts of snow especially on Mt Bachelor. Every snow forecast just massively overperformed.

Likewise, only thing that was kind of lame was getting shafted on Arctic air. Models were showing temps well below zero until a few days before... then rugpulled the Arctic air up into northern WA.

That must've been great to experience! Yeah, I'm hoping the arctic air can make it all the way next time.

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53/46 0.15” today. Today was our 6th day below 55 this month. We had 6 sub 55 highs in 2012. We had 8 sub 55 highs in 2010 and 2011. 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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Instead of moping around, we might as well cheer for records/extremes. One that we can still root for is the fewest spring days at SEA above 60F! We're currently at 9 and the record low number is 19 from 2011 and 1955. After today we'll have 19 days left to not pick up another 10. Currently it looks like Sat/Sun/Mon will be close, but then it appears that we may stay below 60F for the beginning of next week.

Average is about 35 so even if we hit 60F every day from now on out, we've thankfully dodged that bullet.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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1 minute ago, Skagit Weather said:

Instead of moping around, we might as well cheer for records/extremes. One that we can still root for is the fewest spring days at SEA above 60F! We're currently at 9 and the record low number is 19 from 2011 and 1955. After today we'll have 19 days left to not pick up another 10. Currently it looks like Sat/Sun/Mon will be close, but then it appears that we may stay below 60F for the beginning of next week.

One aspect of this recent stretch of weather has been the statistics of it. Everyone knows I’m big into the stats but this has been a very interesting run of fun records that have been set regionally. Not to mention what I thought was impossible snow event in mid April SW WA and Portland. We even got a little snow up here! 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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Sad to see PDX bumping into the upper 50s with clearing. Looks like the central and south valley hung onto clouds a little longer. We are down to 41 with the rain ending. Very wet day again. 0.90” on the day, up to 6.82” on the month. We are looking at another 1/2 to 1” tomorrow night, could get us into the top 10 for wet May’s. 46/39 today.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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43 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

When even a big time cold-weather fan like Jim starts griping about the below-normal temperatures, you KNOW it's been going on for a LONG time!

He differs from Jesse and I in that he prefers drier cold troughing... 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Gorgeous spring evening in Seattle.

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My sons are at UW frat party outdoors this evening.   My weather geek son asked me about c-zone placement this evening.  😀

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