May Winter Continue 2022 PNW

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

You literally just did a total weenie whine right above this sentence in response to Joshua.   Nice work.   

At least my post was reporting on what has actually happened compared to normal.    You are whining about something that hasn't even happened yet!

Regardless... we have been far from climo the last couple of months.   And a climo spring is going to seem very nice when it happens again.   

 

Not really a whine. What i described is typical of the dry season. There is always a chance we get a little rain in June, but once it’s over it won’t be back until late September or October. 

[TT-SEA]

14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This line of light mist has pushed us to 0.22” on the day and 8.50” On the month... which is nothing compared to the pain Seattle has experienced. Or so I am told. 

So stupid... it was a straight up factual post.   There was nothing about pain.    You just don't like the realization that this spring is not something that is likely to be repeated very often and bristle at posts that point out that its been pretty far from climo.   

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Not really a whine. What i described is typical of the dry season. There is always a chance we get a little rain in June, but once it’s over it won’t be back until late September or October. 

It was a total weenie whiny post.     Way more whiny than reporting SEA stats.

[TacomaWaWx]

Good lord

[TT-SEA]

Just now, TacomaWaWx said:

Good lord

Andrew is in full troll mode again.   

[TacomaWaWx]

We’ve picked up 0.15” this morning…up to 3.18” for the month. Getting a little breezy. Interested to see how windy we get today. 

[TacomaWaWx]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Andrew is in full troll mode again.   

Lol, I was more responding to Joshua. it was only a matter of time before we had more than one or two dry days at a time. Euro still shows some rain in the longer range so I wouldn’t really say that summer has started yet either. 

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Lol, I was more responding to Joshua. it was only a matter of time before we had more than one or two dry days at a time. Euro still shows some rain in the longer range so I wouldn’t really say that summer has started yet either. 

No doubt... even a long overdue break which should be totally expected at this point brings out the complaining.     Even May 1955 had a decent break.    It almost always happens even in the coldest and wettest years.    Obviously its very likely that we get significant rain in June and probably July this year.   And of course there will be plenty more rain later this month as well.     

[TacomaWaWx]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

No doubt... even a long overdue break which should be totally expected at this point brings out the complaining.     Even May 1955 had a decent break.    It almost always happens even in the coldest and wettest years.    Obviously its very likely that we get significant rain in June and probably July this year.   And of course there will be plenty more rain later this month as well.     

We’ve still got an outside chance at 4” of rain this month here…we will see about June or July but the way it’s been recently I just don’t see us flipping into prolonged warm dry weather soon. 

[Doinko]

4 hours ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

I truly believe this winter 22-23 will blow our fuckkin minds.

Let's hope!

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

We’ve still got an outside chance at 4” of rain this month here…we will see about June or July but the way it’s been recently I just don’t see us flipping into prolonged warm dry weather soon. 

If I had to bet... I would guess our annual dry period runs from mid-July through September this year.   And its hard to imagine it being very warm even in that period.

[TacomaWaWx]

14 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

If I had to bet... I would guess our annual dry period runs from mid-July through September this year.   And its hard to imagine it being very warm even in that period.

There will be some periods of nice weather for sure. I also agree with the backloaded summer idea. Even during the summer of 2019…we had plenty of 10-14 day dry streaks mixed in. We’re already getting to the time of year where it’s difficult to string together consistent rainfall. I’ve certainly enjoyed all the rain but won’t be upset with the possibility of maybe getting to 70 again or a few warm days (average) which is normal this time of year. 

[TacomaWaWx]

Wind is starting to crank a bit. Gusting to 37 at OLM and Tacoma narrows. 

[Phil]

42 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

If I had to bet... I would guess our annual dry period runs from mid-July through September this year.   And its hard to imagine it being very warm even in that period.

I actually think August or September could end up warmer/drier than average. There’s a consistent signal for late summer/early autumn ridging in ENSO/low pass analogs.

[Phishy Wx]

Oh you guys...

[Chewbacca Defense]

On 5/16/2022 at 4:24 PM, Kayla said:

First severe warned storm of the season about to hit here! Looks to be packing some big hail...

 

 

Looks like we missed out on the fun!  We got on the freeway about 3:15-3:30.  Definitely lots of interesting clouds/storms on our drive.  We stopped in Three Forks to gas up and in that time, it went from "breezy" to high winds in a matter of minutes.

It mellowed out over the pass, then got really bad between Anaconda and the big bend where the freeway turns "left" to start going east/west again between Deer Lodge and Drummond.

Over dinner with the family at the ranch, they said this has been the windiest winter/spring that anyone can remember.

 

[Phil]

It’s raining at Tim’s house.

https://www.northbendweather.com/WWL-mobile.php

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

It’s raining at Tim’s house.

https://www.northbendweather.com/WWL-mobile.php

So strange!    

Ironically... its actually stopped raining now at my house and its become quite windy.

[Deweydog]

4 minutes ago, Phil said:

It’s raining at Tim’s house.

https://www.northbendweather.com/WWL-mobile.php

Do my house now!

[Skagit Weather]

Breezy and mostly dry up here this morning. Just had a gust to 35 mph which is probably about as high as we'll go. Looks like the windiest places have maxed out with gusts in the 50s including Bellingham (55 mph), Camano Island (53 mph), Lopez Island (52 mph), and Whidbey Island (51 mph).

[MossMan]

Wind! 
.09” on the day. 

[Meatyorologist]

1 hour ago, TacomaWaWx said:

There will be some periods of nice weather for sure. I also agree with the backloaded summer idea. Even during the summer of 2019…we had plenty of 10-14 day dry streaks mixed in. We’re already getting to the time of year where it’s difficult to string together consistent rainfall. I’ve certainly enjoyed all the rain but won’t be upset with the possibility of maybe getting to 70 again or a few warm days (average) which is normal this time of year. 

haha saying “even during summer 2019” shows just how warped your perception of a “bad summer” really is

wait until a june 1953 repeat lol

[ShawniganLake]

On the way to dropping the kids off this morning my 5 year old asked “when is the hot summer weather coming?”  And then proceeded to list all the things she wanted to do when summer arrives.  0.54” of rain this morning and the rain is currently pounding sideways into the front windows.  

[TT-SEA]

14 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

haha saying “even during summer 2019” shows just how warped your perception of a “bad summer” really is

wait until a june 1953 repeat lol

2019 was one of the most persistently rainy summers ever in my area.    And yes.... I realize it was also warmer than normal.   But in terms of days with rain... it was top tier.    And that was his point.    There are not many summers which get progressively wetter in JJA... but that actually happened in many places in 2019.   It happened for TacomaWaWx that summer and he has mentioned that several times.

It rained on almost half the days in July and August in 2019 out here at the Snoqualmie Falls station.    That is pretty rare even during wet summers.

[TT-SEA]

25 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

haha saying “even during summer 2019” shows just how warped your perception of a “bad summer” really is

wait until a june 1953 repeat lol

Looked it up... June 1953 was pretty bad.   But then it only rained on 13 days out here in July and August of that year which is about half of what occurred in 2019 in those months.  

[Phishy Wx]

Rain and 53

 

suppose to get some 30-40mph gusts later

[TT-SEA]

12Z GFS sticking with the nice weekend theme... and holds off the rain until next Thursday.     Also backs off again on the deep troughing later next week compared to its 00Z run.

[TacomaWaWx]

30 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

haha saying “even during summer 2019” shows just how warped your perception of a “bad summer” really is

wait until a june 1953 repeat lol

I’m well aware that 2019 wasn’t historically bad…I’m just saying even during a wet summer we get 10-15 day dry spells. That summer was probably my favorite summer ever. 

[TT-SEA]

Just now, TacomaWaWx said:

I’m well aware that 2019 wasn’t historically bad…I’m just saying even during a wet summer we get 10-15 day dry spells. That summer was probably my favorite summer ever. 

That was the only summer in our 20 years here when did not need to water anything at all.    It was quite exceptional in that regard.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I looked up 2019 because I didn't remember it being REALLY WET. Oh that's because it wasn't. More like it actually rained a couple times. 

Seattle:

July - 7 days with measurable precip. 1.15" +0.45"

Aug - 5 days with precip. 1.20" +0.32

Total: 12 out of 62 days with measurable precip. 2.35" total +0.77"

PDX:

July - 6 days with precip. 0.80" +0.15"

Aug - 7 days with precip. 1.23" +0.56"

Total: 13 out of 62 days with precip. 2.03" total +0.71

SLE:

July - 3 days with precip. 0.42" -0.04"

Aug - 5 days with precip. 0.32" -0.13"

Total: 8 out of 62 days with precip. 0.74" total -0.17.

Of course June was very dry. If we look at JJA for Sea Tac they ran a +0.10" precip departure. SOGGY. 

[Phil]

One of the last nice days of the spring here and I’m stuck in an office building under florescent lighting.  

[TacomaWaWx]

Good lord sometimes you can’t even talk about anything on here sometimes. Was much wetter here than at sea tac…was talking about my location. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, TacomaWaWx said:

Good lord sometimes you can’t even talk about anything on here sometimes. Was much wetter here than at sea tac…was talking about my location. 

Sure thing. But reading you and Tim talk about it one would think we were talking about 1993 or 1983. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

September 2019 was fairly moist... If that makes everyone feel better. 

[Phil]

6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z GFS sticking with the nice weekend theme... and holds off the rain until next Thursday.     Also backs off again on the deep troughing later next week compared to its 00Z run.

Looks better than 06z to me. Especially out here.

[TT-SEA]

Just now, TacomaWaWx said:

Good lord sometimes you can’t even talk about anything on here sometimes. Was much wetter here than at sea tac…was talking about my location. 

And here too.    Like I said... we have had to water the yard and garden every summer here except 2019.   Even in 2008 and 2011.  

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Sure thing. But reading you and Tim talk about it one would think we were talking about 1993 or 1983. 

There was 19 days with rain at Snoqualmie Falls station in July and August of 1993.

And 25 days in those months in 2019.   

1993 was less persistently rainy... also significantly cooler.    

[TacomaWaWx]

2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Sure thing. But reading you and Tim talk about it one would think we were talking about 1993 or 1983. 

Never said anything about those years…I just somehow get dragged into some trolling BS y’all got going with Tim. Was just talking about climo I’m not trying to be involved in some preference crap don’t care if anyone likes rain or sunshine or whatever. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Never said anything about those years…I just somehow get dragged into some trolling BS y’all got going with Tim. Was just talking about climo I’m not trying to be involved in some preference crap don’t care if anyone likes rain or sunshine or whatever. 

Not trolling at all. I posted facts, not anecdotes about how green my lawn was. 

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Not trolling at all. I posted facts, not anecdotes about how green my lawn was. 

That part was anecdotal but it was pretty interesting.

I also posted stats for my area.   There was more days with rain in July and August in 2019 than in 1993.   That is just a fact.   And I actually didn't really mind 2019... there was plenty of nice days between the rainy days.   

[Phishy Wx]

15 minutes ago, Phil said:

One of the last nice days of the spring here and I’m stuck in an office building under florescent lighting.  

Offices are such a thing of the past

[TT-SEA]

12Z GFS also sticks with the troughy holiday weekend idea... which seems like a forgone conclusion if we actually get significant break in the rain over the next week.

[Omegaraptor]

2019 was fairly sunny and most of the rainy days were convective/stormy. Barely saw any of that in 2020 and 2021.

As a result we also avoided a bad fire season both here and in CA. Yeah central Oregon and inland CA are always bone dry in the summer, but they’re not always single digit humidity with downsloping winds every single day either. Went to Mt Shasta in late August and they were even watering the grass and skies were completely clear.

[Anti Marine Layer]

Winter needs to be shown the door.

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Omegaraptor said:

2019 was fairly sunny and most of the rainy days were convective/stormy. Barely saw any of that in 2020 and 2021.

As a result we also avoided a bad fire season both here and in CA. Yeah central Oregon and inland CA are always bone dry in the summer, but they’re not always single digit humidity with downsloping winds every single day either. Went to Mt Shasta in late August and they were even watering the grass and skies were completely clear.

Yeah... I think 2019 was basically a smoke free summer and fall.   

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Nice mix of sun and showers on the 12z GFS.

[Meatyorologist]

42 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

2019 was one of the most persistently rainy summers ever in my area.    And yes.... I realize it was also warmer than normal.   But in terms of days with rain... it was top tier.    And that was his point.    There are not many summers which get progressively wetter in JJA... but that actually happened in many places in 2019.   It happened for TacomaWaWx that summer and he has mentioned that several times.

It rained on almost half the days in July and August in 2019 out here at the Snoqualmie Falls station.    That is pretty rare even during wet summers.

I don’t remember summer 2019 being distinctly rainy. All I remember was it being fairly warm and the grass staying green into late July. There must have been a harsh east-west gradient.

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Meatyorologist said:

I don’t remember summer 2019 being distinctly rainy. All I remember was it being fairly warm and the grass staying green into late July. There must have been a harsh east-west gradient.

Probably.   It was unusually rainy in Tacoma and out here... so probably lots of SW flow and shadowing in Seattle.  

[BLI snowman]

3 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Winter needs to be shown the door.

Been a long, brutal, arduous winter in Lake Forest, CA.

[BLI snowman]

As long as we stay below 76 the rest of the month, I'm happy.

Also want a cold, wet Memorial Day weekend so that Tim can send us some nice pictures of Toppenish.