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1 hour ago, bainbridgekid said:

That storm was insane. Just completely out of the realm of what I even thought possible in August here. Many places broke their May-September wind records by well over 10 degrees.

The fact such a strong storm came right at the end of (at the time) the hottest Summer on record made it even more amazing.

I think 2015 is still easily the hottest summer on record for the PNW overall.

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10 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Eugene Airport is in a pretty similar geographic/topographic predicament to Corvallis. Both spots are quite favorable for inversions and cold air damming. I think @SilverFallsAndrewonce said Corvallis is one of the best spots for snow and cold in the Willamette Valley.

Corvallis definitely did well in 2013/2014. My area can do really well sometimes when the east winds go over the west hills and meet the warmer air in a system. In onshore flow though we get rain shadowed.

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1 minute ago, Front Ranger said:

I think 2015 is still easily the hottest summer on record for the PNW overall.

2021 was second by 0.1 of a degree at PDX, and farther south it was much warmer. Up north in the Puget Sound though, 2015 was warmer I think.

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1 minute ago, Front Ranger said:

Almost certainly overdone, but this would be the largest snowstorm this late on record for the Denver area. Next closest would be the 15" that fell on 4/26/72. Could really use the precip.

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42 years ago today, the Cascades were doing some trolling…

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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6 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

2021 was second by 0.1 of a degree at PDX, and farther south it was much warmer. Up north in the Puget Sound though, 2015 was warmer I think.

It was closer than I thought overall but seems like easily more areas were +4-6 in the western lowlands in 2015. And near the sound and coastal areas were cooler in 2021.

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3 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Thanks for sharing, I only get precip totals for the Euro.

Unquestionably historic, if it happens.

This trough digging much more significantly than what was originally shown is win for here and there... gives us a gorgeous weekend and dumps precip on you.   

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20 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

This trough digging much more significantly than what was originally shown is win for here and there... gives us a gorgeous weekend and dumps precip on you.   

Yep. 

Everything is fully leafed out now even in the foothills, so definitely concerned about tree damage at this point.

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42 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

It was closer than I thought overall but seems like easily more areas were +4-6 in the western lowlands in 2015. And near the sound and coastal areas were cooler in 2021.

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Those 2015 departures are insane. I don’t think we’ve ever seen more than a +4 departure here in JJA.

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Just now, Phil said:

Those 2015 departures are insane. I don’t think we’ve ever seen more than a +4 departure here in JJA.

So nice that we paid for our warmest summer ever by soon following it up with the 2nd, 4th, and 5th warmest summers ever.

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2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Those 2015 departures are insane. I don’t think we’ve ever seen more than a +4 departure here in JJA.

SLE departures for 2015:

June: +6.6

July: +3.8

August: +2.0

 

PDX: 

June: 6.1

July: 3.7

August: 1.8

 

SEA:

June: 5.7

July: 4.1

August: 1.3

 

Pretty crazy summer. And the winters surrounding it were bad as well.

 

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2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

So nice that we paid for our warmest summer ever by soon following it up with the 2nd, 4th, and 5th warmest summers ever.

2015 was our 7th hottest summer on record as well. Those +TNH patterns are the f**king worst.

Similar story with the summer madness. 7 out of the top-10 hottest summers on record have occurred since 2010. At some point it has to end, right?

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So many summers over the last decade have been dominated by +TNH/warm pool forcing.

End result is broad Hadley Cell/4CH, which torches the coasts while dropping troughs into the Plains/Midwest. Worst possible pattern for the large population centers across the country.

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8 minutes ago, Phil said:

So many summers over the last decade have been dominated by +TNH/warm pool forcing.

End result is broad Hadley Cell/4CH, which torches the coasts while dropping troughs into the Plains/Midwest. Worst possible pattern for the large population centers across the country.

Mid June snowstorm across the country as payback for all of these warm summers???

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3 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Mid June snowstorm across the country as payback for all of these warm summers???

Hopefully. We need at least a decade of cool summers nationally.

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45 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Yep. 

Everything is fully leafed out now even in the foothills, so definitely concerned about tree damage at this point.

Currently 83 degrees in Fort Collins with a winter storm watch in effect. 

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This is an incredible compilation of videos of the Andover KS tornado.

Easy to see how deaths occur in these.

 

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7 minutes ago, Phil said:

12z EPS. Starting to match EOFs for MJO p7/8 under in-situ low AAM, similar to other guidance.

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I like that blue color from November thru March. Now I would rather see that pretty orange and red color! 
 

My post was WAY more technical than yours so take that!! 

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1 hour ago, Front Ranger said:

Almost certainly overdone, but this would be the largest snowstorm this late on record for the Denver area. Next closest would be the 15" that fell on 4/26/72. Could really use the precip.

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Pretty nice December followed.

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62F with the occasional shower. 0.06" so far today and 4.14" on the month so far.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 21-22 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 35F (Dec 27, 2021)
  • Coldest low: 17F (Feb 23, 2022)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Apr 17, 2022)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 17, 2022)
  • Total snowfall: 10.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) *Longest streak without a sub-freezing high on record*
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 30.7"

 

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14 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

Despite the wind, this is probably one of the nicest days this spring here so far.  Rain stopped late this morning and the sun has been out in full force for several hours in a row. 

Still dark and dank here. 

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Lots of rain earlier... partly sunny and fairly pleasant now.   We don't have nearly as much wind as places to the west of us.

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9 minutes ago, T-Town said:

 

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I can still clearly remember the big boom and running to my parents room slightly freaked out. I was 3.5yrs old. 

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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43 minutes ago, Phil said:

This is an incredible compilation of videos of the Andover KS tornado.

Easy to see how deaths occur in these.

 

And that's an EF3. The strength of EF5 winds is simply mind-blowing. 

Just as an example, in Smithville, MS on 4/27/11

"The remains of an SUV that was thrown half a mile into the top of the water tower seen in the background before bouncing off of it, traveling another 1/4 mile in the air, impacting the ground and eventually coming to rest near the parking lot of the E.E. Pickle Funeral Home on the opposite side of town"

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9 minutes ago, MossMan said:

I can still clearly remember the big boom and running to my parents room slightly freaked out. I was 3.5yrs old. 

I was a high school senior, was at work in the pro shop at Highlands Golf Course in Tacoma. I heard on the radio that the mountain blew, went outside and was able to see the ash plume. 
 

Unrelated to the eruption, I was fired from the golf course job a couple weeks later when I went to a grad kegger in ocean shores instead of going to work. #responsibility

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15 minutes ago, MossMan said:

I can still clearly remember the big boom and running to my parents room slightly freaked out. I was 3.5yrs old. 

I just vaguely remember coming out of my sister’s piano recital and it was snowing. Then immediately I remembered that thicknesses were wayyy above 1290dm and thought “hey, wait a cotton pickin’ minute!”

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By the way... Eugene and Salem were both slightly warmer in 2021 vs 2015.

Eugene JJA:

2015: 69.5

2021: 69.8

Salem JJA:

2015: 71.3

2021: 71.7

Salem beat 2015 in every month last summer, Eugene tied 2015 in June, was 0.1F cooler in July, but a full 1F warmer in August in 2021. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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1 hour ago, Doiinko said:

SLE departures for 2015:

June: +6.6

July: +3.8

August: +2.0

 

PDX: 

June: 6.1

July: 3.7

August: 1.8

 

SEA:

June: 5.7

July: 4.1

August: 1.3

 

Pretty crazy summer. And the winters surrounding it were bad as well.

 

…And those are 1991-20 anomalies. Anomalies from climo that includes 2015 itself, alongside other torrid 2010s summers. In reality add something like 1-3°F and you’ll get a more realistic representation of how far from climo those summers strayed.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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1 hour ago, Phil said:

2015 was our 7th hottest summer on record as well. Those +TNH patterns are the f**king worst.

Similar story with the summer madness. 7 out of the top-10 hottest summers on record have occurred since 2010. At some point it has to end, right?

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2015 was a lovely summer here. Below normal overall, and July was the coolest we've seen since 2009.

Winters are all over the place, but hot summers here are generally cool in the PNW and vice versa due to shorter wavelengths. 

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11 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

By the way... Eugene and Salem were both slightly warmer in 2021 vs 2015.

Eugene JJA:

2015: 69.5

2021: 69.8

Salem JJA:

2015: 71.3

2021: 71.7

Salem beat 2015 in every month last summer, Eugene tied 2015 in June, was 0.1F cooler in July, but a full 1F warmer in August in 2021. 

Yeah but most other stations up and down I-5 were warmer in 2015. Including Silverton and Silver Falls.

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7 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Yeah but most other stations up and down I-5 were warmer in 2015. Including Silverton and Silver Falls.

2021 also had that major June heat wave anomaly that beefs up those 2021 JJA numbers. 

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10 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Yeah but most other stations up and down I-5 were warmer in 2015. Including Silverton and Silver Falls.

Interesting... That does appear to be true. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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All this talk about eastern WA, I just HAD  to take a look for myself. 
 

Can confirm, it’s ugly. Dry as a sandbox with blowing dust everywhere. Sorry Tim!

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Cold Season 2021/22:

Total snowfall: 119.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 16"

Highest snow depth: 20"

Coldest high: -5ºF

Coldest low: -25ºF

Number of subzero days: 1

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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12 minutes ago, jcmcgaffey said:

2021 also had that major June heat wave anomaly that beefs up those 2021 JJA numbers. 

June 2015 did have 9 90+ days at SLE and hit 100 on the 26th. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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15 minutes ago, jcmcgaffey said:

2021 also had that major June heat wave anomaly that beefs up those 2021 JJA numbers. 

Good point as well. One week made a huge difference for the averages. Much more than one week most summers would.

I remember that being discussed as last summer concluded and people weighed the historical significance... 

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