May Winter Continue 2022 PNW

[Mr Marine Layer]

3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z EPS and control run are a little better moving the trough east by Memorial Day.   The control run is significantly better.   There might still be a small chance it gets better by Monday.

Control run... 00Z run for Memorial Day on top and new 12 run on the bottom.  

 

Will there be snow in Whistler, British Columbia? I remember the Winter Olympics had a snow shortage there.

[TT-SEA]

71 in North Bend now.

[Deweydog]

Your moment of zen. 

[T-Town]

6 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Your moment of zen. 

 

[Omegaraptor]

70°F with hazy sunshine Corvallis

[NWbyNW]

Beautiful day.  Port Gardner is packed with boats, sail boats, jet skis.  Parks are packed of people.  It's blue skies here, but certainly a high cloud deck coming in with filtered sunlight.  There are now more clouds than sunshine even since just an hour ago.  It cracked 60F and is now 62F.  I will be curious if it gets warmer or not, or if the clouds will keep Everett's temps down.

Have a super Sunday everyone!

 

Was also checking on Bellingham.  They appear to be all filtered sun with high clouds.  Still makes for a nice day there.  Currently 64F at the Bellingham waterfront.

 

[Doiinko]

 

[Mr Marine Layer]

19 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

 

Halo

[Cascadia_Wx]

12z EPS is looking pretty good. The mean is in line with the operational for the troughing in the 5-8 day range 

[Meatyorologist]

Not going to have a 70-less May or break the record for lowest monthly high temp (67°F in 1962), but I’m not really throwing a fit as it is once again another gorgeous (and quite earned!) day. Tomorrow could be cloudy and drizzly all day due to a weak system drifting in aloft.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Splendid 18z run.

[Deweydog]

Breezy!

 

[Meatyorologist]

24 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Splendid 18z run.

nearly sends in a crazy airmass for early June at the end but instead pops up a ridge with eventual tstm chances

[SilverFallsAndrew]

+ 1 departure at SLE today. 

[NWbyNW]

We tapped out at 64F as the high today.  High clouds getting thicker.

[Cascadia_Wx]

Looks like 76 at PDX today. They were about a week away from tying their longest streak at or below 75 on record (last 75+ day there was September 25th)

74/44 here with a mix of sun and high clouds. Another nice day 

Edited May 23 by Cascadia_Wx

[Meatyorologist]

71°F at KSEA. Still a -0.3°F departure on the day though lol with a 71/46 spread.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Nice day in silverton. 

[TT-SEA]

28 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

71°F at KSEA. Still a -0.3°F departure on the day though lol with a 71/46 spread.

Pretty amazing... climo feels like summer right now.   Seriously craving some climo.   Another 10 days of unusually cold with rain every day sounds awful if I am being honest.

[Deweydog]

48 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Looks like 76 at PDX today. They were about a week away from tying their longest streak under 75 on record (last 75+ day there was September 25th)

74/44 here with a mix of sun and high clouds. Another nice day 

PDX hit 75 on 4/7 and 5/4.

[TT-SEA]

73 for a high in North Bend.

[Timmy Supercell]

From what I see on NWS Spokane's facebook page, 5/21/1896 holds their latest 70+ degree day record, and GEG hasn't hit 70 yet this year.

Color me surprised, their climate isn't drastically different from K-Falls and they hit 80 in mid-April, but cooled immediately afterwards of course. 

[Doiinko]

1 minute ago, Timmy Supercell said:

From what I see on NWS Spokane's facebook page, 5/22/1896 holds their latest 70+ degree day record, and GEG hasn't hit 70 yet this year.

Color me surprised, their climate isn't drastically different from K-Falls and they hit 80 in mid-April, but cooled immediately afterwards of course. 

Spokane still hasn't hit 70? That's impressive!

[Doiinko]

1 hour ago, Meatyorologist said:

nearly sends in a crazy airmass for early June at the end but instead pops up a ridge with eventual tstm chances

I've been unlucky this spring with thunderstorms at my house in Bethany, I hope we get some full on light shows at some point!

[Timmy Supercell]

Edited that to say 5/21 was their latest, so today would be their new record on that. 

[Doiinko]

4 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

Edited that to say 5/21 was their latest, so today would be their new record on that. 

I just noticed your Klamath Falls data in your signature, and saw some interesting stuff! In 2013/2014, you only had 9 inches of snowfall, which is actually about how much I got that winter!

[Doiinko]

Maybe PDX can manage the latest 80 on record?

[Meatyorologist]

44 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Pretty amazing... climo feels like summer right now.   Seriously craving some climo.   Another 10 days of unusually cold with rain every day sounds awful if I am being honest.

Yep, today was nice. Got to wear my t shirt again instead of my light jacket. The whole biosphere being green as ever really helped Seattle’s “style” points today, too.

[Meatyorologist]

Not going to lie though, tomorrow’s cooldown sounds nice. I am not acclimated at all for summer yet 

[Cascadia_Wx]

17 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

From what I see on NWS Spokane's facebook page, 5/21/1896 holds their latest 70+ degree day record, and GEG hasn't hit 70 yet this year.

Color me surprised, their climate isn't drastically different from K-Falls and they hit 80 in mid-April, but cooled immediately afterwards of course. 

Their climate may not be different numbers wise but the two locations are several hundred miles apart and subject to differing weather patterns 

[Timmy Supercell]

2 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

I just noticed your Klamath Falls data in your signature, and saw some interesting stuff! In 2013/2014, you only had 9 inches of snowfall, which is actually about how much I got that winter!

My coldest month in that area was Dec 2013 but that was pretty dry. Some of the snows were localized, I had friends from back in Beaverton who told me they had more snow in the Feb 2014 event. 

I used to live in Bethany from 1999-2004 when I was in elementary school. I'd say they had more summer t'storms than Milwaukie, but some of my memory might not have been the greatest when I was younger.

[Cascadia_Wx]

36 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

PDX hit 75 on 4/7 and 5/4.

They didn’t exceed it though. Until today. I think the record was for days at or below 75.

[Doiinko]

Just now, Timmy Supercell said:

My coldest month in that area was Dec 2013 but that was pretty dry. Some of the snows were localized, I had friends from back in Beaverton who told me they had more snow in the Feb 2014 event. 

I used to live in Bethany from 1999-2004 when I was in elementary school. I'd say they had more summer t'storms than Milwaukie, but some of my memory might not have been the greatest when I was younger.

That's nice! We've done pretty good when it comes to snow here in the past few years. 2013/14:~8-10 inches. 2014/15: 0 inches. 2015/16: 1 inch. 2016/17: 18 inches. 2017/18: 5 inches. 2018/2019: 4 inches. 2019/2020: 1 inch. 2020/2021: 4.5 inches. 2021/2022: 6 inches.

When it comes to thunderstorms, the only one I really remember well is from September 2019 I think. That had a ton of lightning and hail. There was also a tornado a few miles away apparently.

I think the Bethany area can get a lot windier when the east wind accelerates down the West Hills than other places in the west metro area.

[Doiinko]

Just now, quacksax said:

Is it currently 6/12/2010? I’m struggling to find any records prior to 1941. 

I think that's the latest, not sure though.

[Timmy Supercell]

2 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

That's nice! We've done pretty good when it comes to snow here in the past few years. 2013/14:~8-10 inches. 2014/15: 0 inches. 2015/16: 1 inch. 2016/17: 18 inches. 2017/18: 5 inches. 2018/2019: 4 inches. 2019/2020: 1 inch. 2020/2021: 4.5 inches. 2021/2022: 6 inches.

When it comes to thunderstorms, the only one I really remember well is from September 2019 I think. That had a ton of lightning and hail. There was also a tornado a few miles away apparently.

I think the Bethany area can get a lot windier when the east wind accelerates down the West Hills than other places in the west metro area.

I just had my first bigger t'storm last night in my new area. Overall eastern Kentucky gets less severe ones, and I think most of the tornadoes that make up the 21 average annually are up until you get to I-75 or just after. But a few noteworthy ones can happen. An EF3 happened in March 2012 within 50 miles of here. Mayfield was on the other side of the state. In fact, none of those big lines that came thru last Winter had any lightning here at my place. 

[Omegaraptor]

7 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

I think that's the latest, not sure though.

At this point we might as well go for it. Have something to show for this spring in the record books.

[Doiinko]

6 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

I just had my first bigger t'storm last night in my new area. Overall eastern Kentucky gets less severe ones, and I think most of the tornadoes that make up the 21 average annually are up until you get to I-75 or just after. But a few noteworthy ones can happen. An EF3 happened in March 2012 within 50 miles of here. Mayfield was on the other side of the state. In fact, none of those big lines that came thru last Winter had any lightning here at my place. 

That's nice that you had a large thunderstorm! 

Also, I think Milwaukie had a huge downpour a few weeks ago, like 2.2 inches of rain in a few hours. Not sure if that had any lightning though.

[Doiinko]

7 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

At this point we might as well go for it. Have something to show for this spring in the record books.

Well we did have the latest snowfall on record at PDX and wettest April. Has CVO set any records?

[Phil]

12 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

I just had my first bigger t'storm last night in my new area. Overall eastern Kentucky gets less severe ones, and I think most of the tornadoes that make up the 21 average annually are up until you get to I-75 or just after. But a few noteworthy ones can happen. An EF3 happened in March 2012 within 50 miles of here. Mayfield was on the other side of the state. In fact, none of those big lines that came thru last Winter had any lightning here at my place. 

We had 60mph winds this evening. Your area does better than mine for severe I think, so yours should be coming.

Snapped this pic as the wind front arrived. It was…loud.

 

[Timmy Supercell]

5 minutes ago, Phil said:

We had 60mph winds this evening. Your area does better than mine for severe I think, so yours should be coming.

Snapped this pic as the wind front arrived. It was…loud.

 

First hail should be in the near future. There's been several times it sounds like hail wants to fall, stops and then its just a downpour when it starts dumping. 

[Phil]

11 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

First hail should be in the near future. There's been several times it sounds like hail wants to fall, stops and then its just a downpour when it starts dumping. 

Have you been under a severe warning yet? Don’t recall any in E-KY yet but my memory could be failing me.

[Timmy Supercell]

13 minutes ago, Phil said:

Have you been under a severe warning yet? Don’t recall any in E-KY yet but my memory could be failing me.

Not Boyd County, but the storm I had last night briefly was warned right before crossing into the county line. 

Jackson has been in one or two. 

[Thunder98]

This is very interesting. Cadillac, MI sees about the same amount of precip days as Olympia, WA. MI sees a lot more precip days than I thought.

[The Swamp]

weekends like this are just gross.  Sunshine Saturday and Sunday? WOW!

I hope we can break this streak and get some cold soaking rain for the upcoming three day weekend.

fingers crossed

[Omegaraptor]

57 minutes ago, Thunder98 said:

This is very interesting. Cadillac, MI sees about the same amount of precip days as Olympia, WA. MI sees a lot more precip days than I thought.

Cadillac is right downwind from Lake Michigan which while not like the Pacific is basically an inland sea. They are within the lake effect snowbelt. Nearby Traverse City gets about 100" of snow a year, probably a bit less in Cadillac.

They still manage 12F average lows in January with 18 precip days, and they're at the same latitude as Eugene and just above 1000' elevation. Very cold winters for its latitude... but still warm compared to east Asia.

Coastal city at the same latitude as Roseburg (their port requires icebreakers in winter!). If the Earth spun the other way, our climate might actually look something like this, although probably not quite as cold because of all the blocking mountain ranges.

[Mr Marine Layer]

22 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Cadillac is right downwind from Lake Michigan which while not like the Pacific is basically an inland sea. They are within the lake effect snowbelt. Nearby Traverse City gets about 100" of snow a year, probably a bit less in Cadillac.

They still manage 12F average lows in January with 18 precip days, and they're at the same latitude as Eugene and just above 1000' elevation. Very cold winters for its latitude... but still warm compared to east Asia.

Coastal city at the same latitude as Roseburg (their port requires icebreakers in winter!). If the Earth spun the other way, our climate might actually look something like this, although probably not quite as cold because of all the blocking mountain ranges.

More of a seasonal lag in Olympia.

[RentonHillTC]

is this that hurricane that the GFS was trying to make happen

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

is this that hurricane that the GFS was trying to make happen

I think it was a land MCS that tracked out over the gulf and became tropical.

[TT-SEA]

Facebook reminded me that we were in Richland WA 6 years ago today... slumming it right on the water with our boat parked in the marina.    Miserable times.   

[TT-SEA]

Some significant improvement on the 00Z GEM for the second half of the long weekend... probably doesn't mean much but hope springs eternal.