SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 If the Willamette Valley hits 100 our climate officially sucks and has no hope. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 For the layman who might get caught up in the hyperbole, there’s no meaningful similarities between the pattern shown a week from now and last June’s hellfire. 6 1 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 At this point it looks like a 2 day heat spike. We'll see where that goes... Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: Main difference is that there's no signal for that kind of heat anywhere on the coast. This time last year the GFS was being mocked for spitting out 120s in NorCal. Barely 110 there this time, plus weaker forcing offshore. Fortunately, maximum potential temperatures this go around seem to be under three digits in the Sound, and well under 116 () in the Willamette Valley. I am trying to will it in to existence, I would find it hilarious if this the all or nothing summer, nothing but rain and cool temps with just brief interludes of oppressive unlikeable heat and then right back to rain and cool temps over an over again, would be funny. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: At this point it looks like a 2 day heat spike. We'll see where that goes... Crashes to a more pleasant +2 to +5 kind of weather pattern afterwards, probably closer to average and lower in the uber range Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, GHweatherChris said: I am trying to will it in to existence, I would find it hilarious if this the all or nothing summer, nothing but rain and cool temps with just brief interludes of oppressive unlikeable heat and then right back to rain and cool temps over an over again, would be funny. #2010ing 1 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: Crashes to a more pleasant +2 to +5 kind of weather pattern afterwards, probably closer to average and lower in the uber range Setting the table nicely for #no90july. 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: #2010ing It would be funny, the "I need 75-80 temp lovers" would lose their mind even more than they already are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Deweydog said: For the layman who might get caught up in the hyperbole, there’s no meaningful similarities between the pattern shown a week from now and last June’s hellfire. Phoenix sees it all the time. One time in Arizona I saw a big Shell sign with a missing S. Gas prices were less hellish though at that time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said: I am trying to will it in to existence, I would find it hilarious if this the all or nothing summer, nothing but rain and cool temps with just brief interludes of oppressive unlikeable heat and then right back to rain and cool temps over an over again, would be funny. I kinda like seasonal extremes as long as it’s not a constant theme throughout the summer. We had a 1 day heat spike in august 2020 where we hit 97 and crashed afterwards that was kinda fun. 3 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said: I am trying to will it in to existence, I would find it hilarious if this the all or nothing summer, nothing but rain and cool temps with just brief interludes of oppressive unlikeable heat and then right back to rain and cool temps over an over again, would be funny. That would actually be pretty funny... just nothing but extremes. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, Deweydog said: For the layman who might get caught up in the hyperbole, there’s no meaningful similarities between the pattern shown a week from now and last June’s hellfire. Lol’ing at some of the commentary in here tonight. It’s going to hit 90 for like 2 days. Heck, your July prediction at PDX might actually verify. No big heat signal in any of the extended ensemble clusters now. 4 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Phil said: Lol’ing at some of the commentary in here tonight. It’s going to hit 90 for like 2 days. Heck, your July prediction at PDX might actually verify. No big heat signal in any of the extended ensemble clusters now. It’s a bold call, but with what looks to be a dominant central US ridge and some soil moisture spending cash, why not… Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Deweydog said: It’s a bold call, but with what looks to be a dominant central US ridge and some soil moisture spending cash, why not… You can exchange four of your your earned Soil Moisture Tokens© for a prize of your choice from the main kiosk, including 5F off your next high temperature, a removal of one 90F day, or two free hot dogs. 1 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Meatyorologist said: You can exchange four of your your earned Soil Moisture Tokens© for a prize of your choice from the main kiosk, including 5F off your next high temperature, a removal of one 90F day, or two free hot dogs. How many more rainy days do we need to be able to cash in for two sub-65 degree late July highs and the giant stuffed downvote hanging high behind the pimple-faced counter attendant? 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagit Weather Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Phil said: Apparently Tulip Trees do well in the PNW? How many are growing up there? https://meyersign.com/2020/06/tales-from-the-magic-skagit-a-tulip-poplar-grows-in-mount-vernon-pt-2/ Interesting. I've passed that tree dozens of times and never thought much about it. Obviously I don't pay enough attention to trees. 1 Quote Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008): Max Temp: 96.3F (2009) Min Temp: 2.0F (2008) Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021) Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22) Avg Yearly Precip: 37" 10yr Avg Snow: 8.0" Snowfall Totals '08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 00Z ECMWF looks similar to its 12Z run. It would be favorable timing to get that ULL through here mid week before the weekend of the 4th. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 Welp, if the GFS is to be believed, then the NFL players will finally be showing up... 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 The nicest day of the year thus far will be on Tuesday, the solstice. Sunny with highs in the mid-upper 70s. Nice to see the sun at it's highest point of the year. 1 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 Certainly loving this trend for Wednesday. Deep marine layer with highs in the upper 50s. Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Town Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 Some color in the sky this morning. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 hours ago, GHweatherChris said: It would be funny, the "I need 75-80 temp lovers" would lose their mind even more than they already are. Is 75-80 oppressive unlikable heat for you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said: Is 75-80 oppressive unlikable heat for you? No... he is talking about completely bypassing 75-80 which is the goldilocks zone and going back forth between 95 and 58 all summer. Either miserable heat or cloudy and drizzling and nothing else. Which would be pretty funny. The ultimate mother nature trolling job. 2 1 5 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 Low of 50 this morning. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 Another mild morning. 48, rained a little earlier this morning. 0.02” in the bucket. 29.99” April-present. 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phishy Wx Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 They're saying 88 by later next week maybe. oof might have to turn on the AC before July. I don't like these trends we did get a downpour for about 15 min this morning around 6am, woke me up. currently cloudy and 55 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Phishy Wx said: They're saying 88 by later next week maybe. oof might have to turn on the AC before July. I don't like these trends I was thinking about pulling the AC out of the closet later this week. 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: I was thinking about pulling the AC out of the closet later this week. You don't have GOETTL because it's hard to spell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 Based on satellite imagery might start clearing out soon…going to go out to Anderson if it does to get some kayaking in. 4 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Town Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: Based on satellite imagery might start clearing out soon…going to go out to Anderson if it does to get some kayaking in. I was just noticing that it’s getting brighter here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 This week-2 trade surge signal on the EPS is at least as strong as anything projected over the late winter/spring period (when the Niña was re-emerging). To anyone still doubting Ms. La Niña… 4 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 Pretty agreeable 12z GFS run. Sunday is looking like a 95+ day regardless, but it's nice and short lived. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: Pretty agreeable 12z GFS run. Sunday is looking like a 95+ day regardless, but it's nice and short lived. One or two low to mid 90s days are fine by me. Going to be humid though. 2 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: One or two low to mid 90s days are fine by me. Going to be humid though. Yeah, the near record high soil moisture will keep DPs elevated and make significant mixing harder barring some pretty strong offshore flow. A soupier airmass but should help keep the peak temps down a bit from where they could be. Basically the exact opposite of last year. Edited June 20, 2022 by BLI snowman 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, BLI snowman said: Yeah, the near record high soil moisture will keep DPs elevated and make significant mixing harder barring some pretty strong offshore flow. A soupier airmass but should help keep the peak temps down a bit from where they could be. Basically the exact opposite of last year. Not to sound like Tim or Randy, but my yard is incredibly muddy, and damp, moreso than it typically is in the winter. 5 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Not to sound like Tim or Randy, but my yard is incredibly muddy, and damp, moreso than it typically is in the winter. You’re getting pretty close to a ban there buddy better keep yourself in check. 1 2 1 3 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 Forecast contest??? 1 1 1 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: Yeah, the near record high soil moisture will keep DPs elevated and make significant mixing harder barring some pretty strong offshore flow. A soupier airmass but should help keep the peak temps down a bit from where they could be. Basically the exact opposite of last year. If this setup had repeated at around the same time last year with the much lower soil moisture, how hot could we have been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Doiinko said: If this setup had repeated at around the same time last year with the much lower soil moisture, how hot could we have been? PDX got to 97 out of a pretty pedestrian airmass on June 21 last year. That was when it was obvious that the following week's setup was going to be unbelievably brutal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: Yeah, the near record high soil moisture will keep DPs elevated and make significant mixing harder barring some pretty strong offshore flow. A soupier airmass but should help keep the peak temps down a bit from where they could be. Basically the exact opposite of last year. Offshore looks pretty stout later Friday into Saturday. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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