June 2022 - Summer Begins

[Deweydog]

5 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Nah, I didn't notice. What was weird about them?

I should have specified that it was mainly here in the greater PDX area. One example was Scappoose and PDX which had a 30 degree disparity in DP’s at 8pm.

 

Edited June 29, 2022 by Deweydog

[Phil]

27 minutes ago, Phil said:

00z GFS is going to do something moronic. I spot two spurious features already at D4.

Not as bad as I thought it would be. Thank goodness!

[Anti Marine Layer]

7 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Yeah we ended up about a month behind schedule here but things have really taken off now. The new growth on the trees this year is the most I’ve seen. Pollen is also incredibly bad this year but I’m not complaining!

So you're having the usual spring pollen season in the summer.

[TacomaWx]

11 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

I should have specified that it was mainly here in the greater PDX area. One example was Scappoose and PDX which had a 30 degree disparity in DP’s at 8pm.

 

Think I recall Jesse mentioned something about it yesterday.  

[Frontal Snowsquall]

On 6/26/2022 at 5:38 PM, hawkstwelve said:

Just a heads up on a couple changes in the name of site security:

1. All users will now need to sign in with their email address, not display name. This will take effect next time you log out/back in. Just a bit more secure using your email than using a public-facing display name.

2. Any admin/staff accounts will now need to have multi-factor authentication setup on them. This is done through Google Authenticator integration, but can be used with any 2FA app (I use Authy, for example). You should be prompted to set that up soon, if you haven't already. Again, this is just locking down the higher privileged accounts for better security.

Give a shout if anyone has any issues.

It took a couple days but I finally remembered the email I signed up for on my account a long time ago. Ignore the email I sent to update my email address. I will update it now.

[MossMan]

.10” on the day, 4.94” for the month. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Seattle had quite the drop from 91 yesterday to 65 today.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

4 hours ago, Doiinko said:

Looks like it actually was a 11/7 (midnight high) day and a 31/9 day, but the COOP site must've recorded days from 8 AM to 8 AM or something like that 

I believe PDX was 14/8 and 19/9 on these days, December 30/31. Then didn't warm up to above freezing until January 3. 1969 came in with a bang!

[Frontal Snowsquall]

1 hour ago, Kayla said:

Yeah we ended up about a month behind schedule here but things have really taken off now. The new growth on the trees this year is the most I’ve seen. Pollen is also incredibly bad this year but I’m not complaining!

Here in the Willamette Valley I read we're having the highest pollen counts since 2012. I normally don't need allergy medication but I've had to take Claritin almost everyday for the past few weeks.

[Doinko]

8 minutes ago, Frontal Snowsquall said:

I believe PDX was 14/8 and 19/9 on these days, December 30/31. Then didn't warm up to above freezing until January 3. 1969 came in with a bang!

Looks like my location might have warmed up faster, and the east wind kept things cooler for longer at PDX. It says 92 consecutive hours below freezing, until the 1st of Jan. I don't know when they start the day though, maybe 8 pm is when they took observations at the COOP site? Not sure if I should count it as 15/7 or 12/7.

[Doinko]

5 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Looks like my location might have warmed up faster, and the east wind kept things cooler for longer at PDX. It says 92 consecutive hours below freezing, until the 1st of Jan. I don't know when they start the day though, maybe 8 pm is when they took observations at the COOP site? Not sure if I should count it as 15/7 or 12/7.

Looks like it was 10 PM the previous winter, not sure if it was the same for 1968/1969

[TigerWoodsLibido]

13 minutes ago, Frontal Snowsquall said:

I believe PDX was 14/8 and 19/9 on these days, December 30/31. Then didn't warm up to above freezing until January 3. 1969 came in with a bang!

That Jan went out with one too. Three feet of bangin’

[Cascadia_Wx]

1 hour ago, Deweydog said:

Not sure if it was talked about yesterday, but it was probably the most spastic DP profiles associated with a strong marine push that I can recall seeing.

I mentioned it. Does that earn me one call Tim out without immediate retribution card?

[Deweydog]

24 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I mentioned it. Does that earn me one call Tim out without immediate retribution card?

[Skagit Weather]

64/54 day here with 0.11" in the gauge.

[NWbyNW]

WILDFIRE / SMOKE UPDATES

Not a whole lot to report quite yet, but there are three fires in Grant County.  A fire near Soap Lake is requiring Level 3 area evacuations.  This is the first fire of it's size so far this year in Washington. Wenatchee's local tv news channel, NCW Life News reports a total of three fires in Grant County.  Wind seems fairly stable, so hopefully they can put these fires out quick with no issue and no smoke.

There appears to be a new fire on the Olympic Peninsula near Neah Bay that is producing smoke over Port Angeles and the area.  Unknown if it will affect the Puget Sound.  I can't find much info on this fire, so hopefully it isn't big.  The cool weather today should hopefully help.

There is also some good news.  Wildfire smoke from Alaska is dissipating over British Columbia and doesn't appear it will reach Washington in any significant fashion.

[Meatyorologist]

1 minute ago, NWbyNW said:

WILDFIRE / SMOKE UPDATES

Not a whole lot to report quite yet, but there are three fires in Grant County.  A fire near Soap Lake is requiring Level 3 area evacuations.  This is the first fire of it's size so far this year in Washington. Wenatchee's local tv news channel, NCW Life News reports a total of three fires in Grant County.  Wind seems fairly stable, so hopefully they can put these fires out quick with no issue and no smoke.

There appears to be a new fire on the Olympic Peninsula near Neah Bay that is producing smoke over Port Angeles and the area.  Unknown if it will affect the Puget Sound.  I can't find much info on this fire, so hopefully it isn't big.  The cool weather today should hopefully help.

There is also some good news.  Wildfire smoke from Alaska is dissipating over British Columbia and doesn't appear it will reach Washington in any significant fashion.

I'd imagine even if it were thick, it would be extremely high aloft. No BBQ smells for days on end at the surface. Those living up above Camp Muir might have to watch out though

[VancouverIslandSouth]

2 hours ago, MossMan said:

.10” on the day, 4.94” for the month. 

Approaching 100F here in Budapest, most days have been over 90F. There was one cool "marine push" kind of evening but it bounced back rapidly. More of a climate difference than I expected in Central Europe. 

[Jbolin]

4 hours ago, TacomaWx said:

Think I recall Jesse mentioned something about it yesterday.  

Jesse's back?

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Thicc marine layer 

[Meatyorologist]

4 hours ago, JBolin said:

Jesse's back?

@DareDuck's been posting for a while

[TT-SEA]

Justin posted a link in another thread to a really cool site with the original weather records from many locations.  I have this bookmarked now.   I have been checking out the handwritten records from Snoqualmie Falls and came across July of 1901.  Check out the low temperatures that this guy recorded... a low of 30 on 7/13/1901?    In fact lows in the 30s on many nights in July.     I cross-referenced this with the data from Seattle that month and the lows were in the 50s there so I am certain none of the lows in the 30s actually happened.    But what would cause a thermometer to read so cold overnight?     I understand over-exposure but not sure what happened here.   

I also love the sky condition notes... something that is missing from the official data and lends more insight into the actual weather.   This guy noted cloudy conditions on 7/18/1901 with a high of 79 and a low of 41.   That seems almost impossible unless he referring to very thin high clouds.  

Its pretty hard to read... but you can make it out if you zoom in.   

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IPS/IPS-6EEC95E6-AC01-42C1-9E4B-7361541828A1.pdf

[Phil]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Justin posted a link in another thread to a really cool site with the original weather records from many locations.  I have this bookmarked now.   I have been checking out the handwritten records from Snoqualmie Falls and came across July of 1901.  Check out the low temperatures that this guy recorded... a low of 30 on 7/13/1901?    In fact lows in the 30s on many nights in July.     I cross-referenced this with the data from Seattle that month and the lows were in the 50s there so I am certain none of the lows in the 30s actually happened.    But what would cause a thermometer to read so cold overnight?     I understand over-exposure but not sure what happened here.   

I also love the sky condition notes... something that is missing from the official data and lends more insight into the actual weather.   This guy noted cloudy conditions on 7/18/1901 with a high of 79 and a low of 41.   That seems almost impossible unless he referring to very thin high clouds.  

Its pretty hard to read... but you can make it out if you zoom in.   

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IPS/IPS-6EEC95E6-AC01-42C1-9E4B-7361541828A1.pdf

Can you re-post the link? I must’ve lost it.

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Can you re-post the link? I must’ve lost it.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/IPS/coop/coop.html

 

 

[Phil]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/IPS/coop/coop.html

 

 

Thanks brother.  

[Doinko]

8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Justin posted a link in another thread to a really cool site with the original weather records from many locations.  I have this bookmarked now.   I have been checking out the handwritten records from Snoqualmie Falls and came across July of 1901.  Check out the low temperatures that this guy recorded... a low of 30 on 7/13/1901?    In fact lows in the 30s on many nights in July.     I cross-referenced this with the data from Seattle that month and the lows were in the 50s there so I am certain none of the lows in the 30s actually happened.    But what would cause a thermometer to read so cold overnight?     I understand over-exposure but not sure what happened here.   

I also love the sky condition notes... something that is missing from the official data and lends more insight into the actual weather.   This guy noted cloudy conditions on 7/18/1901 with a high of 79 and a low of 41.   That seems almost impossible unless he referring to very thin high clouds.  

Its pretty hard to read... but you can make it out if you zoom in.   

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IPS/IPS-6EEC95E6-AC01-42C1-9E4B-7361541828A1.pdf

Yeah it's really fun to look at. Here's one from my location in August 1968, looks like it was a wet month.

IPS-C6D13A64-23C1-465F-AF8F-8C10D383C1AD.pdf

[SilverFallsAndrew]

16 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Justin posted a link in another thread to a really cool site with the original weather records from many locations.  I have this bookmarked now.   I have been checking out the handwritten records from Snoqualmie Falls and came across July of 1901.  Check out the low temperatures that this guy recorded... a low of 30 on 7/13/1901?    In fact lows in the 30s on many nights in July.     I cross-referenced this with the data from Seattle that month and the lows were in the 50s there so I am certain none of the lows in the 30s actually happened.    But what would cause a thermometer to read so cold overnight?     I understand over-exposure but not sure what happened here.   

I also love the sky condition notes... something that is missing from the official data and lends more insight into the actual weather.   This guy noted cloudy conditions on 7/18/1901 with a high of 79 and a low of 41.   That seems almost impossible unless he referring to very thin high clouds.  

Its pretty hard to read... but you can make it out if you zoom in.   

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IPS/IPS-6EEC95E6-AC01-42C1-9E4B-7361541828A1.pdf

I do think our summers used to have patterns which produced colder low temps... We see the same thing in winter. A lot of the lows during the warm season in the 50s and 60s at the Silver Falls station were way lower than what we see consistently today. However, I have had 30s for lows in July and August here... Even EUG hit the upper 30s in late August back around 2000. So if those patterns were more persistent in the past I could see some of these readings being legit. 

They also could have been siting their thermometer too low. If you put it at just above ground level you will get a colder overnight reading than if it is correctly sited at 2m. 

Edited June 29, 2022 by SilverFallsAndrew

[MossMan]

.01” so far on the day. 
4.95” for the month. 
Cloudy and 55. 
Wet hood. 

[Phil]

20 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Justin posted a link in another thread to a really cool site with the original weather records from many locations.  I have this bookmarked now.   I have been checking out the handwritten records from Snoqualmie Falls and came across July of 1901.  Check out the low temperatures that this guy recorded... a low of 30 on 7/13/1901?    In fact lows in the 30s on many nights in July.     I cross-referenced this with the data from Seattle that month and the lows were in the 50s there so I am certain none of the lows in the 30s actually happened.    But what would cause a thermometer to read so cold overnight?     I understand over-exposure but not sure what happened here.   

I also love the sky condition notes... something that is missing from the official data and lends more insight into the actual weather.   This guy noted cloudy conditions on 7/18/1901 with a high of 79 and a low of 41.   That seems almost impossible unless he referring to very thin high clouds.  

Its pretty hard to read... but you can make it out if you zoom in.   

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IPS/IPS-6EEC95E6-AC01-42C1-9E4B-7361541828A1.pdf

Humidity must’ve low as heck back then.

Checking here at College Park (a few miles away) some of these obs from 1894 are f**king insane.

90°F with a low of 49°F? That’s literally impossible today. Heck I’ve never even measured a low below 60°F in July.

[TT-SEA]

7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I do think our summers used to have patterns which produced colder low temps... We see the same thing in winter. A lot of the lows during the warm season in the 50s and 60s at the Silver Falls station were way lower than what we see consistently today. However, I have had 30s for lows in July and August here... Even EUG hit the upper 30s in late August back around 2000. So if those patterns were more persistent in the past I could see some of these readings being legit. 

They also could have been siting their thermometer too low. If you put it at just above ground level you will get a colder overnight reading that if it is correctly sited at 2m. 

I just can't imagine a July with lows consistently in the 30s and even below freezing one night regardless of where the thermometer was placed.    Particularly when Seattle had lows in the 50s that entire month.      

July 1901 was well below normal in Seattle... but most days were in the 70s with lows in the 50s.      The handwritten record from Snoqualmie Falls was so much colder at night.   The notes indicate 21 days were "clear" and 10 days were "cloudy".

 

[Timmy Supercell]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I do think our summers used to have patterns which produced colder low temps... We see the same thing in winter. A lot of the lows during the warm season in the 50s and 60s at the Silver Falls station were way lower than what we see consistently today. However, I have had 30s for lows in July and August here... Even EUG hit the upper 30s in late August back around 2000. So if those patterns were more persistent in the past I could see some of these readings being legit. 

They also could have been siting their thermometer too low. If you put it at just above ground level you will get a colder overnight reading than if it is correctly sited at 2m. 

I did have cooler lows throughout last year compared to 2015. I guess it depends on location. Despite hitting a higher maximum temperature, and despite more consistent heat; summer 2021 had a bigger spread up at higher elevations. June 2015 only got down to 38 but last June had a couple upper 20's.

But at the same time 2015 had a better t'storm pattern, so that partially explains the warmer nights down where I lived.

[TacomaWx]

Got down to 54 here this morning…picked up 0.04” of rain as well to hit 3.62” on the month. 

[Doinko]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I just can't imagine a July with lows consistently in the 30s and even below freezing one night regardless of where the thermometer was placed.    Particularly when Seattle had lows in the 50s that entire month.      

July 1901 was well below normal in Seattle... but most days were in the 70s with lows in the 50s.       But the handwritten record from Snoqualmie Falls was so much colder at night.   The notes indicate 21 days were "clear" and 10 days were "cloudy".

 

Eugene had a low of 38 in July 2018 of all months, their coldest in July

[TT-SEA]

17 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Yeah it's really fun to look at. Here's one from my location in August 1968, looks like it was a wet month.

IPS-C6D13A64-23C1-465F-AF8F-8C10D383C1AD.pdf 1.95 MB · 2 downloads

Highs in the 60s and 70s most of August down there is pretty impressive.   And those notes were even more detailed on sky conditions.   I love it.    

8/24/68 - high of 56 and a low 52 with a rain total of .49 and the note says "R-all day".  

[Phishy Wx]

55 out, turned off AC, opened all windows and fans are blazing.

[Timmy Supercell]

4 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Eugene had a low of 38 in July 2018 of all months, their coldest in July

7/2/2020 had a 32 low at KLMT. Pretty sure that was the only time I had freezing in July, counting 2011 and 2016 summers.

[Doinko]

9 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Highs in the 60s and 70s most of August down there is pretty impressive.   And those notes were even more detailed on sky conditions.   I love it.    

8/24/68 - high of 56 and a low 52 with a rain total of .49 and the note says "R-all day".  

There are also observations from December 1968 which is really interesting, they give detailed remarks such as when sleet changed to freezing rain.

 

IPS-6DC7A69A-8DBF-431A-B7C5-A5E30F8DFBC1 (1).pdf IPS-76A44400-C3C2-4FF8-AFE8-A4C14D7C4FF2 (1).pdf

[TacomaWx]

Love mornings like these heavy drizzle and up to 0.05”. We’re also about to surpass April’s 3.63” rainfall total in June which is pretty impressive considering that was also an above normal month. 

[Doinko]

26 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

There are also observations from December 1968 which is really interesting, they give detailed remarks such as when sleet changed to freezing rain.

 

IPS-6DC7A69A-8DBF-431A-B7C5-A5E30F8DFBC1 (1).pdf 1.88 MB · 3 downloads IPS-76A44400-C3C2-4FF8-AFE8-A4C14D7C4FF2 (1).pdf 1.5 MB · 2 downloads

Some notes:

12/30: 15/7 (might be 12/7 if going by midnight to midnight) "Blizzard conditions in area. W Union Rd closed by drifts to 2 ft. S-BS all day.

12/31: 31/8 "Sleet till noon mdt frz rain aftn. Ice on all things 1/4. Thawing eve"

1/1: 35/30 "Thawing. E PDX still E winds - high temp 27°."

1/2: 36/30 "worst snow since 1950, roads bare here icy in PDX"

This is just from the first snow event as well.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

GFS looks dry for the weekend.